General Music Chat

lalong,
The snare sound varies a great deal based on his attack. Just a clean snare with authority and body to it. Here is some more Vinnie with the snare out front:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i6RZwzS ... re=related
And here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQr6wi7 ... re=related

I wish I could take credit for the idea of using reference tracks to dial in a mix but I stole it from this guy:
http://www.blueribbonstudios.com/credits.html

He is one of my friends "in the biz" and he says he uses reference tracks every day to find what he wants... which is why his mixes always sound so good... which is why companies like Disney, Apple, and Volkswagen keep calling him with work.

No need to reinvent the wheel. Great tones are already out there. Collect a dozen tracks that you really like and use tonal bits and pieces to create your own work. Maybe the snare sound from this track, the awesome acoustic piano from that one, and monster guitar tones from something else. Add in some unique sounds you created on your own and now you have a magnificent musical stew. That is how George Martin, Frank Zappa, and Clive Davis did it.

There will be no wine before it's time, fortunately it's ready to drink.

It's called "Once in a Moment" or "Mint" for short..
(It's on my player, no need to chase it.)

Big departure for me, as I play in the mud of it all.
No mud in this one..(>????!!??!) Les really surprised me in a good way.

Les - Keys, Drums, Lyrics, all DAW/TECH aspects.

Scott - Bass and all vocals..not much else here.

It has ZERO regular guitar in it.

Take your shots now, we just basically finished a new one last night.
It's called " Seven" and if this one "bothers" you, the next one will make you a jumper for sure.

If you like it, hey that's great, if not...make sure you blast me.

It's "ORANGE".
Warm, fluffy, orange.

Don't believe me? Find a nice shade of orange to stare at while you listen to 'Once in a Moment'.

I'm not so hip on the intro, but the rest is a warm, orange hug.

Any negatives?
I dunno... keep working on your vocals.

I know it is easy to say - I've googled up some videos on "singing lessons" and such, and it seems to be a huge pain in the ass.
But if you're gonna, do it - push yourself I guess.

Lalong, the snare just doesnt fit to my ears, it sounds almost to tinny, I kind of think of music like this in organic terms and more wooden sounding. I hope that makes sense, I just try to listen and give gut reactions to new stuff and the snare just took away from it for me. Maybe its just too digital sounding to me, I cant put my finger on it, when I jam with my drum machine I always just mess around til I get a warm sounding drum set.

Hey its just my opinion, great song in the works there, you guys are meshing real well together, thats great keep on writing and recording guys, Im enjoying the collaboration.

Just Heard Once in A moment:

Scott I have always like your stuff... No need to reiterate that here...

1) Nice melody as always...but too much reverb in the vocals... It buries the articulation in your prose. (Somebody said to move the drums back...I disagree, bring the main vocal forward by reducing the reverb a little and that will take care of the separation issue)

2) Nice way to 'mix it up ' on the intro... I do agree about the Zappa consensus, but hey, at least you guys were bold about it and didn't try to bury the signature to play it off as anything less than what it was...

3) Nice song form and structure... overall


4) Good drumming.. I would say... there are some areas that were a smidgen off time.. Example Time 1:33 Transition from rolling snare to the tom...attack was just shy of the saddle. Even so, Its obvious a lot of work was put into this Overall I was impressed...

I have to say Scott, You and (LA Long?) have captured a distinct signature... and where I might have been critical in the past, I have to say that your signature is consistent, and actually is the right kinda stuff that it takes to be marketable... YOu are selling a flavor, that not too many others have considered... Its a nice flavor and I'd say...keep on, keepin on...

You have my permission to tell me to go f**k off now LOL!

Reverb and all tech stuff handled by Les.
(I play an engineer on TV but I can't fix whatever it is that's broken lol)

I only play the tunes, I am technically/DAW unconscious and left to my own devices, the late 60's and 70's aren't dead. (not always a great idea)

Les really drives this cart, I am only one of the pack animals.

The intro was Les' idea. The only thing he didn't know was that it was a predominantly piano piece and some minor tweaks we performed the last session. He finally heard the same thing I did at the very conclusion.

We were recording the chorus and we got a harmony voicing that we both liked. Until then, I don't think either of us knew exactly what was going on.

After that, this one wrote itself. It was very fast from nothing to 80% in 1 session.


It sounded like some other pop piano pieces I won't mention because I don't want to be compared to them, but I was impressed with Les' ART.
(whatever that is)

Sometimes it's like having this at your back...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ChuSCk0e_E

Now I don't really play it.

My view is so much more constricted but I am trying to loosen up because sometimes this overlaps the ORANGE, fuzzy dice, 60-70's thing and it allows me access to places and things I wouldn't normally be able to go.

I don't think either of us know what flavor we're pumping out. All we know is that it's getting interesting which is about all you can ask for.

The only thing that may come easy (oddly enough) is Pink Floyd.

Seems to be something stuck in the back of my head from 1000X viewings of "The Wall" and playing video games while listening to "ANIMALS/Pigs on the Wing".

"It's "ORANGE".
Warm, fluffy, orange. "

GT

You may have a rare (or perhaps not so rare) condition called synethesia! Note - that ain't a bad thing - just a thing. I have a touch of it so I wrote a song about it.
================
The Color of Nine
M. Peirce (Talbot) Copyright (C) 2009

VERSE 1
Synesthesia afflicts the troubled few.
Who sense those things that aren?t perceived by me and you.

The smell of Wagner and the number of the color blue?
It?s just a hint of what is there?

More than usual,
Less than true!

CHORUS

Just a hint of what is true,
of what?s divine,
It?s there,
In the color of nine!

etc

Talbot

"It's "ORANGE".
Warm, fluffy, orange. "

GT

You may have a rare (or perhaps not so rare) condition called synethesia! Note - that ain't a bad thing - just a thing. I have a touch of it so I wrote a song about it.
================
The Color of Nine
M. Peirce (Talbot) Copyright (C) 2009

VERSE 1
Synesthesia afflicts the troubled few.
Who sense those things that aren?t perceived by me and you.

The smell of Wagner and the number of the color blue?
It?s just a hint of what is there?

More than usual,
Less than true!

CHORUS

Just a hint of what is true,
of what?s divine,
It?s there,
In the color of nine!

etc

Talbot

"It's "ORANGE".
Warm, fluffy, orange. "

GT

You may have a rare (or perhaps not so rare) condition called synethesia! Note - that ain't a bad thing - just a thing. I have a touch of it so I wrote a song about it.
================
The Color of Nine
M. Peirce (Talbot) Copyright (C) 2009

VERSE 1
Synesthesia afflicts the troubled few.
Who sense those things that aren?t perceived by me and you.

The smell of Wagner and the number of the color blue?
It?s just a hint of what is there?

More than usual,
Less than true!

CHORUS

Just a hint of what is true,
of what?s divine,
It?s there,
In the color of nine!

etc

Talbot

"It's "ORANGE".
Warm, fluffy, orange. "

GT

You may have a rare (or perhaps not so rare) condition called synethesia! Note - that ain't a bad thing - just a thing. I have a touch of it so I wrote a song about it.

The Color of Nine
M. Peirce (Talbot) Copyright (C) 2009

VERSE 1
Synesthesia afflicts the troubled few.
Who sense those things that aren?t perceived by me and you.

The smell of Wagner and the number of the color blue?
It?s just a hint of what is there?

More than usual,
Less than true!

CHORUS

Just a hint of what is true,
of what?s divine,
It?s there,
In the color of nine!

etc

Talbot

"It's "ORANGE".
Warm, fluffy, orange. "

GT

You may have a rare (or perhaps not so rare) condition called synethesia! Note - that ain't a bad thing - just a thing. I have a touch of it so I wrote a song about it.
[
The Color of Nine
M. Peirce (Talbot) Copyright (C) 2009

VERSE 1
Synesthesia afflicts the troubled few.
Who sense those things that aren?t perceived by me and you.

The smell of Wagner and the number of the color blue?
It?s just a hint of what is there?

More than usual,
Less than true!

CHORUS

Just a hint of what is true,
of what?s divine,
It?s there,
In the color of nine!

etc
]

Talbot

"It's "ORANGE".
Warm, fluffy, orange. "

GT

You may have a rare (or perhaps not so rare) condition called synethesia! Note - that ain't a bad thing - just a thing. I have a touch of it so I wrote a song about it.

(
The Color of Nine
M. Peirce (Talbot) Copyright (C) 2009

VERSE 1
Synesthesia afflicts the troubled few.
Who sense those things that aren?t perceived by me and you.

The smell of Wagner and the number of the color blue?
It?s just a hint of what is there?

More than usual,
Less than true!

CHORUS

Just a hint of what is true,
of what?s divine,
It?s there,
In the color of nine!

etc
)
Talbot

Wow methinks bandmix burped..

You know I think Hendrix has this as well.

I've heard interviews where he refers to one piece he played as purple>?

Sounds very useful.. wish I had it too!!!