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Where music comes from? Well, everyone here seems to have such an easy answer, but truley, the answer isn't easy because it depends on your motive for music. There are some who pick up an instrument, mess with it a little, hurt a few ears, then finally play a note progression that sounds pleasing to the ear, and go "oooh, whaddya know!"
now, there are others who know the chord and note progressions and soley mix those progressions to later make songs. Even "greats" like Mozart started this way.
There are also those who make music a dedication and goal, they work day in and day out TRYING so hard to make the best song they can, with all the right parts in the right places, not letting it come naturally but throwing away ideas, adding these, trying this but dropping that, etc. so much that sometimes it makes the worst songs.
Finally, there are those who want to make music to entertain--usually hip hop i've notice because they'll make beats you can move to, and words that are not necessarily deep but pleasing to whatever the audience wants to hear. But other genres too will focus on simply being the new "hit" the new single of the week.
So where does it come from? It comes from your motive, or lack of for some.
now, there are others who know the chord and note progressions and soley mix those progressions to later make songs. Even "greats" like Mozart started this way.
There are also those who make music a dedication and goal, they work day in and day out TRYING so hard to make the best song they can, with all the right parts in the right places, not letting it come naturally but throwing away ideas, adding these, trying this but dropping that, etc. so much that sometimes it makes the worst songs.
Finally, there are those who want to make music to entertain--usually hip hop i've notice because they'll make beats you can move to, and words that are not necessarily deep but pleasing to whatever the audience wants to hear. But other genres too will focus on simply being the new "hit" the new single of the week.
So where does it come from? It comes from your motive, or lack of for some.
fisherman bob wrote:Some caveman was banging away at a wooly mammoth carcass with a big stick or bone and making grunts and groans and a nearby caveman said "hey that sounds pretty good" and started banging a few rocks together in unison and then some cavewoman started shrieking because she was hungry and by chance it harmonized and soon the entire neanderthal community was really into this and soon the entire bunch of them went on American Idol and presto...we have music.
That's got to be the STUPIDEST thing I've ever heard...I mean c'mon...they dont have instruments on American Idol!!!
(haha sorry couldnt resist)
Well... as we've developed, so have our emotions. It's what sets us from animals (not that they don't have any, just not as sharply). And also, what you're listening to affects what you feel, right? You emotions develop to your life experiences, and current situation. It's not music until you feel it. You can't enjoy it until you can understand it. I don't mean like music theory, but what it means to you. How you can put it together to fit. So music comes from emotion and intelligence.
Dog can beat on the bongos, but he can't feel the rhythm.
The intelligence can be our disadvantage, cause they learn music off of someone else instead of themselves and yeah, it turns out to be another beatles cover band or American Idol.
That's what I think, but in the end, music comes off of what we want to express.
Dog can beat on the bongos, but he can't feel the rhythm.
The intelligence can be our disadvantage, cause they learn music off of someone else instead of themselves and yeah, it turns out to be another beatles cover band or American Idol.
That's what I think, but in the end, music comes off of what we want to express.
in just a few months after this post, i have to add that life influences your songs, some listen to songs for advice, and a lot have helped my influences in life, so , i feel that our songs come from our heart and soul.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJWdXUbukEk this is a video on you tube, action, comedy,superhero, hoodlums and jams.
#9330 by Craig Maxim
Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:02 am
Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:02 am
Music at it's essences is sound, groups of sounds, an organization of sounds. And sounds are heard (and felt) through sound waves. Vibration. Ultimately the vibrations of pitch and tone and Rhythm touch something inside of us. Because we are essentially energy (all matter is) we also give off vibrations. A heart beat, which beats in 2/2 time, speeds up when excited, slows down when calm or sleeping. You feel a "sinking" (or bassish) feeling when sad. Etc... etc...
Music is universal, because the vibrations of music resonate with the vibrations we have experienced, even since the womb. Language is unnecessary. We can hear a song in any language and generally "understand" whether it is a happy song, a sad song, a reflective song, a devestatingly tragic song, etc...
When music is played, it is expressing something. That expression is undertood, and felt through our own life experiences. We are being touched by the music, because we are empathizing, with the emotion it is expressing.
We respond not just audibly through our ears, but sound waves actually pass through our body. Think of that. The sound goes THROUGH our very being, whether flesh, spirit or both, depending upon your belief system.
When the vibrations which we can empathize with already on an intellectual level, pass through us, I believe, that we actually feel that emotion, almost as if it originated inside of us. In other words, when we have an excited vibration naturally, we know how that feels, and our brain processes that information for us, and when the excited musical vibration passes through our bodies, I think it actually feels much the same and triggers that emotion within us, since it feels almost the same.
Which is why people universally can understand the feeling of the music correctly, regardless of even language barriers. Music really is the great unifier.
On an even deeper level, there is a fairly recent theory in physics called "String Theory" which basically states that smaller (or more elemental) than protons and electrons, even more elemental than quarks, matter at the very smallest subatomic level is ALL made up of "strings" vibrating at different frequencies. Traditionally, in the standard model, subatomic particles are like fixed points. They can move, but little else. But strings, can move AND oscillate. Which opens the door to a whole new possibility. These strings vibrate at different frequencies producing the variations we see in matter. Just as various stringed instruments vibrate at different frequencies and produce different sounds.
The beautiful thing about string theory, is that it may in fact be the holy grail of physics, united all accepted theories (quantum mechanics & Relativity) as well as the four fundamental forces in the universe. Leading it to be called the "Theory of Everything".
To repeat my point once more....
"These strings vibrate at different frequencies producing the variations we see in matter. Just as various stringed instruments vibrate at different frequencies and produce different sounds."
The universe itself, may in fact be, one giant and incredibly beautiful and complex symphony.
As a musician, my friends, you may in fact be speaking God's own language!
Don't ever let anyone tell you that music is a worthless endeavor!
Music is universal, because the vibrations of music resonate with the vibrations we have experienced, even since the womb. Language is unnecessary. We can hear a song in any language and generally "understand" whether it is a happy song, a sad song, a reflective song, a devestatingly tragic song, etc...
When music is played, it is expressing something. That expression is undertood, and felt through our own life experiences. We are being touched by the music, because we are empathizing, with the emotion it is expressing.
We respond not just audibly through our ears, but sound waves actually pass through our body. Think of that. The sound goes THROUGH our very being, whether flesh, spirit or both, depending upon your belief system.
When the vibrations which we can empathize with already on an intellectual level, pass through us, I believe, that we actually feel that emotion, almost as if it originated inside of us. In other words, when we have an excited vibration naturally, we know how that feels, and our brain processes that information for us, and when the excited musical vibration passes through our bodies, I think it actually feels much the same and triggers that emotion within us, since it feels almost the same.
Which is why people universally can understand the feeling of the music correctly, regardless of even language barriers. Music really is the great unifier.
On an even deeper level, there is a fairly recent theory in physics called "String Theory" which basically states that smaller (or more elemental) than protons and electrons, even more elemental than quarks, matter at the very smallest subatomic level is ALL made up of "strings" vibrating at different frequencies. Traditionally, in the standard model, subatomic particles are like fixed points. They can move, but little else. But strings, can move AND oscillate. Which opens the door to a whole new possibility. These strings vibrate at different frequencies producing the variations we see in matter. Just as various stringed instruments vibrate at different frequencies and produce different sounds.
The beautiful thing about string theory, is that it may in fact be the holy grail of physics, united all accepted theories (quantum mechanics & Relativity) as well as the four fundamental forces in the universe. Leading it to be called the "Theory of Everything".
To repeat my point once more....
"These strings vibrate at different frequencies producing the variations we see in matter. Just as various stringed instruments vibrate at different frequencies and produce different sounds."
The universe itself, may in fact be, one giant and incredibly beautiful and complex symphony.
As a musician, my friends, you may in fact be speaking God's own language!
Don't ever let anyone tell you that music is a worthless endeavor!
#9333 by RhythmMan
Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:58 pm
Sun Jun 10, 2007 2:58 pm
Walk through the woods on a spring day, and you can hear music all around you.
- melody
- harmony
- rhythm
.
There's no stopping the exhuberance of birds looking for mates . . .
Some birds can make 3 discrete notes simultaneously, and that's a pretty neat trick . . .
- melody
- harmony
- rhythm
.
There's no stopping the exhuberance of birds looking for mates . . .
Some birds can make 3 discrete notes simultaneously, and that's a pretty neat trick . . .
#9345 by Craig Maxim
Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:40 am
Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:40 am
Hey Johnny,
Thanks for the email you sent me about my response to this question. It meant alot. Thanks brother!
Rock on!!!
Thanks for the email you sent me about my response to this question. It meant alot. Thanks brother!
Rock on!!!
Samic-BluesFunkJazz wrote:They sing at dawn, and create new and wonderful melodies. They add and subtract notes from their melodies, improving their compositions. I've heard compositions of over 30 notes. They're fast, and many of the notes are above the average person's hearing range . . .
I think the caveman theory has merit - and the muses mythology has merit, and the heart, soul, spirit, life experiences and God posts have merit. But, mostly, I like the song bird take on this. It rocks.
I, too, have spent lots of time living in the country and do live in the country now. I'm usually up until the first light of dawn, then I go to bed and fall asleep listening to those birds singing. All kinds of them. It's truly amazing.
Another thing that comes to mind is something I read once. Birds sing because they love to sing. They don't sing for money or food or attention. They don't do it to get applause or recognition. There's no ego there. They do it because that's what they do - it comes naturally. They just love to do it - you can tell. It makes 'em HAPPY! It's really too bad that people aren't more like birds, in that regard. Also, they don't criticize each other. They do borrow from each other's compositions - just like musicians do (consciously or sub-conciously).
Having said that - I really love crows and ravens, they don't make pretty sounds exactly, but I love their bold, sassy caws. They have three or four variations on the cawing. I've developed a mimic for a couple of them and when I hear one, I answer it (getting pretty good with it, too). Well, they respond - I've gone back and forth doing call and response with crows many, many times. It's great fun. (Hope the neighbours aren't watching!) They're the only birds I've ever been able to do this with. They do the call and response with each other by nature, and if you can mimic their sound, they'll do it with you, too.
So, RIGHT ON! to Samic-BluesFunkJazz.
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