General Music Chat

Hang in there Crip.

As far as forgiveness, I dont think the other guy intentionally had this wreck, maybe he was careless. I raced motor cycles for years and in 07 I decided to give it up, cause I have to support my family and kids, plus with business responsibilitys if I got maimed up on my bike then who would take care of things.

Legally you should be compensated and taken care of. Theres no question in my mind on that, like others have said that is what insurance companys are for.

Once again I dont know what you have to forgive anyone for, it was an accident, maybe avoidable but an accident none the less. One of your loves, riding a motorcycle is a dangerous thing, there arent any things like a fender bender on a bike, Ive got plenty of friends to attest to that. Been too a couple of funerals for friends that rode bikes. This is one of the reasons I never bought a street bike. A few years ago I did pull in front of a guy on a bike, he had to run off the road and I stopped, and apologized. Of course he was livid with me, but I did glance and I honestly didnt see him. He lightened up a little when he saw the AMA stickers on my truck, I said yea Im a semi-pro motocrosser. Like I said he didnt do this on purpose with some motive of hurting. Life is just series of events, and you just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

At this point Kerry it is what it is.

I am very sorry this has happened to you, I mean that and dont take my post as mean or harsh, but what do you have to forgive this person for in the first place, if this guy set out that day to take a biker out, thats one thing, but I just dont think thats the case, he was maybe careless, but he may have glanced and not seen you, Ive been there and done that, fortunately it didnt end in what happened to you.

Focus on where you are now and getting better, blaming and anger toward this other person will only hold you captive to an emotion that he doesnt even feel, in other words by holding this anger in the only thing you are doing is hurting yourself, its not going to change anything, use all your energy to recover.

Good Luck Kerry on Your Recovery

I had thought of responding earlier, when you first posted, but I wanted to hear what others had to say. Some of the answers were very good, others were rather self serving in nature. So here is my two cents.

You were there at that specific time and place, just as he was, for a reason. It was God who put both of you there and it was God that allowed this to happen for his purpose. I do not believe in coincidence. God sets things in motion, and always has. It does not matter that we do not have or can not understand the reason. I feel I do understand why things happen.

It is not to show God what we are made of, it is so we can see what we are made of, and make the needed changes when we are found wanting in His eyes. Do we complain or do we accept what God has laid upon us? Do we go to the one who brought the problem for the answers or do we try to handle the matter through our own means. When these things happen to us we first need to ask God what he is trying to tell us. If you belong to God, then it is for your own good. God always has His first in mind. And that is something we should all consider above all else.

You were there for Gods reason. Things happen to those who love God to get at something in them that He wants to change. God has two teachers’ affliction and adversity. Remember that all things work to the good of those who love God. It is up to us to rise above our circumstances.

Every accident is caused by someone being careless, and accidents are the simply fruit of carelessness, even when it happens to us. But it is God who choreographs it. God deals with our attitude, and God deals with theirs. Have you asked God to handle the situation? After all, God allowed it.

Lam 3:38 Good and bad each happen at the command of God Most High.
Isa 45:7 I am the giver of light and the maker of the dark; causing blessing, and sending troubles; I am the Lord, who does all these things.

Bah. Sh*t happens. Deal with it and move on. Get better soon.

Bah. Sh*t happens. Deal with it and move on. Get better soon.

And this from someone who asks others to pray to the God that he does not believe exists. I think that about says it all.

Correction - I don't KNOW if God exists. And neither do you. I am Agnostic, not atheist.

Correction - I don't KNOW if God exists. And neither do you. I am Agnostic, not atheist.

Jimmy,

A perfect example of how the carnal mind is defunct in it's reasoning.

Are you now telling me now that you are clairvoyant as well as being ignorant to the existence of God?

All who believe in God believe through their experience with God. Only an arrogant fool would deny someone else's relationship with God. For it is written : "The fool says in his heart their is no God.

Please don't take this personally, unless it applies to you.

You may believe whatever you want, or you may feel something in your heart, but only a fool would presume to know the unknowable. A logical person requires evidence. But you already knew that.

Thank you all for your kind words and insight on this particular subject! Yes, I truly believe in God and pray to him every day....especially for the damn pain to subside...that's the one of many parts that suck about all this.

Jimmy "sh*t Happens, deal with it" really doesn't cut it in my case. Let's see This "Sh¡t" has caused me to lose my job, my ability to ever shred as I used to, my not being able to pay the mounting bills as I've yet to see one damn disability check come in and my bank account is quickly disappearing. 2 Boys getting ready for college which I prolly won't be able to afford unless it's a fair settlement, May have to sll the house, My wife is not ony nurse to me but one of my seriously handicapped sons. I was told I'll NEVER be able to do any heavy lifting again...there goes my 33 years of employment down the drain...no 401k, pension, etc... Just a nice text that says hope you feel better. Can't do any of the normal chores around the house anymore (landscaping, shoveling snow, etc.) I'm scared shitless...The pain is still horrendous and now they're talkin' about going back in and changing plates which means starting all over again! Sometimes I honestly wish I would've died so my wife could've collected on the life insurance policy. I'm responsible for every single bill until a settlement is reached which could be years from now. It's scary and eveybody keeps telling me all this stress isn't gonna help. Easy for them when they don't hafta deal with all od the above. I can't do nothing right now but eat, take pain meds, exercise and try to sleep as my bills are just piling up the wazoo and even my attorney can't control that. but....


Sh¡t Happens.... I'll Deal with it and move on while I watch my loving family disintergrate because our only income at the moment is my wife's piddly p/t job...


Sh¡t Happens, Deal with it and move on

We all make choices in life, and must live with the consequences. I am very sorry you are hurt, and really hope that you recover, and receive any financial compensation that you have coming. But I'm sure you knew the risks of riding a motorcycle. Yes sh*t does happen but the choices we make affect the frequency and amount of sh*t we get.

...Just as I knew the risks of riding my little 4 cyl. car everyday to work but have witnessed many deaths and destruction due to crashes in these little gas saving machines. If I was an asshole making asshole moves then I would and could easily accept it....been riding bikes since 16...I'm 52.... I've never, ever crashed on my bike.... quite a few times in my car... broke bones, etc... The choice I made was to drive extremely cautiously be it a car or bike.... The consequence I must live with is that there are still assholes that don't look both ways when crossing the street. Not because of my love for bikes. I actually witnessed someone go into a coma while playing his electric guitar waay back in the 80's... we had to hurry up and turn off the circuit breaker... Should've that stopped me from playing guitar?

Quite right, life in general is risky and always fatal. We all take risks everyday, driving to work, crossing the street or going down the stairs. And no matter how careful you are bad things happen. People who climb mountains, parachute or yes ride motorcycles are living in the moment and implicitly accept the danger that goes with those activities. BTW my original remark was for Slacker not you but it is what it is. I really hope you make a speedy recovery.

Thank You, Jimmy... I sincerely appreciate the discussion...It's great not to agree on everything or we'd all be fukkin' clones. One thing I may add... You actually had the ballz to tell me to accept the consequences due to the dangerous choices I've made!

Any time Crip. I know you will recover and be jamming again one day, you just have to push through this.

I had thought of responding earlier, when you first posted, but I wanted to hear what others had to say. Some of the answers were very good, others were rather self serving in nature. So here is my two cents. You were there at that specific time and place, just as he was, for a reason. It was God who put both of you there and it was God that allowed this to happen for his purpose. I do not believe in coincidence. God sets things in motion, and always has. It does not matter that we do not have or can not understand the reason. I feel I do understand why things happen.

Slacker, are you saying that God made that driver decide to abandon his responsibilities to observe safety and traffic laws? ( I would disagree with that.) I think God is entirely Laissez-faire about things like this. What purpose would it serve the Driver or GOD to coerce the driver to create the tragedy that occurred? DO you think that either Kerry or the Drive have any misgivings about safety in their lives? And If God was trying to teach Kerry a lesson by sabotaging his safety, that would contradict God's edict about NOT bringing or leading us Harm..

People bring and lead People to harm. ..That's it, plain and simple. On the Day of Judgement, w'ell all be notified about it, accordingly.

It is not to show God what we are made of, it is so we can see what we are made of, and make the needed changes when we are found wanting in His eyes. Do we complain or do we accept what God has laid upon us? Do we go to the one who brought the problem for the answers or do we try to handle the matter through our own means. When these things happen to us we first need to ask God what he is trying to tell us. If you belong to God, then it is for your own good. God always has His first in mind. And that is something we should all consider above all else.

Again, This just makes absolutely no sense, logically or otherwise... I'm not saying that God wont give us a nudge here and there as we attempt to align ourselves with his will and love...But I am saying (With firm conviction and on very good authority), God will NEVER lead us to into an unnecessary pit of vipers just to get a lesson across... I suppose if I was diagnosed with Lung Cancer, and I was a smoker, what point at that stage would God have ever had a hand in that? And is God gonna rub that lesson in my face, or my children's faces when they watch me die?

Understandably, many People would like to blame/ credit God for everything. (Makes it easier to not face and address their own weaknesses... )

Mr Kerry aint evil enough , nor is he so off path from God, that his life and safety warrants a 'lesson', outlined by physical tragedy. No Point to it whatsoever.... What happened to him was a function of human negligence, frailty, weakness , and a human system, failing to meet the prescribed 'righteous' methods for living under these conditions.

God had NOTHING to do with the disaster that ensued... If they had outright prayed for that accident to happen, HE WOULD STILL NOT "MAKE" it happen. If you want to argue that God is the sender of blessings and the sender of Troubles, Indeed, as you said... God, set things in motion...God has created this environment, this world, with conditions and terms , which reveal for us all the troubles and rewards...commensurate with how we conduct our lives... Its that simple... and that is the only extent of direct play that god performs in our FREE-WILL based lives. What would be his point for us otherwise...?

As you know, real Love and betrothal cant be purchased, nor can it be bribed or coaxed. Why In this universe, would God coerce the engineering of our own lives under the guise of free will? Again...God had NOTHING to do with Kerry's accident. The Driver, who could not adhere to the terms and conditions of this world, and who was grossly negligent DID cause the accident. Could Kerry have ridden his bike more cautiously? Perhaps... But We are all afforded reasonable discretion and indiscretion, In GOD's Imperfect Earth... (for as god watches even over the sparrow, how much more are we to God?)

Just hoping things start turning around for the better soon for you