General Music Chat

It's not free is right, and it will cost many their lives.
I already see the effects now.
Just as corporations, businesses and the rich don't pay taxes, the consumers do.
Those who need health care will pay.

You will be sorry.

You can remember you heard it here.

Please explain because I'm not getting you.

Do you mean people will barge down a hospital in a great horde and start attacking doctors like the peasants stormed the Bastille?

or

Do you mean there will be like a big civil war where health care will be the issue and not slavery?

or

The teabaggers will attack like one giant horde of locusts like I'm expecting them to do because they'll suspect anyone who's brown skinned is either an immigrant or on welfare and they should be destroyed just in case and happiness will rain once again upon the land once that's done?

Chaeya

The whole economic social entitlement system is bankrupt.
Supported artificially by unsecured loans from China and worthless printed currency.
You cannot have more consumption than production.
Simple physics and economic principals parallel here.
You can hide symptoms temporarily, but the disease will still kill you.


I can see the rot eating away at the substructure of health care daily in my job.
Many many more physicians and facilities will no longer accept any form of government payer source. ( because they can't be trusted)
And men forced to work provide poor quality.

Let's say you operate a business that washes apples for $ 1.00 each.
It cost you $0.30 to wash each apple.
Then the forced structure payer source bureaucrats tell you your apple washing was only worth $0.35 each apple.
They tell you this two years after the fact in a "review" then bill you for the difference plus interest.
You already paid your apple washing employees, and the vendors for your apple washing supplies. Your income and advalorum (sp?) taxes, maintenance on your facility, and the mortgage you used for start up capital ( or your investors ).
All based on that $1.00 per apple.

This is what the government payer sources are doing to medical care providers all over America as we speak.

Where pray tell is your incentive to wash apples ??
Even if you were a just business person this would create an unworkable environment.

Add that most care provider entities operate with very high profit margins to the top end of the business structure. ( unjust profit ? )
As do the government agencies / employees whom administer these programs.

And they are passing any loss of income to the consumer either directly ( higher rates to those whom are not government funded ) ... & or ... indirectly by cutting staff / services and greatly reducing quality as well as availability.

All provider services will fail when consumers out number producers.

And in fact all of the government social service providers already have failed but as stated before, are being artificially maintained by unsecured loans from China.

The whole economic social entitlement system is bankrupt.
Supported artificially by unsecured loans from China and worthless printed currency.
You cannot have more consumption than production.
Simple physics and economic principals parallel here.
You can hide symptoms temporarily, but the disease will still kill you.

That's because they were never funded properly and or the will to make it so. ... so gov'nt privitized it so the corp USA could make billions and they still do ... it not medicare that make US health care 2 to 3 times as expensive as everyother industrialized nation ... it's all the costs that are caused by the insurance providers.

The whole economic social entitlement system is bankrupt.
Supported artificially by unsecured loans from China and worthless printed currency.
You cannot have more consumption than production.
Simple physics and economic principals parallel here.
You can hide symptoms temporarily, but the disease will still kill you.

That's because they were never funded properly and or the will to make it so. ... so gov'nt privitized it so the corp USA could make billions and they still do ... it not medicare that make US health care 2 to 3 times as expensive as everyother industrialized nation ... it's all the costs that are caused by the insurance providers.

I partially disagree. It was initially appropriately funded.
The thieving ass politicians soon took care of that.


Last information published showed approximately %51 of Americans pay into the system while %49 live off the system.

You cannot have more consumption than production.
Simple physics and economic principals parallel here.
You can hide symptoms temporarily, but the disease will still kill you.

The whole economic social entitlement system is bankrupt.
Supported artificially by unsecured loans from China and worthless printed currency.
You cannot have more consumption than production.
Simple physics and economic principals parallel here.
You can hide symptoms temporarily, but the disease will still kill you.


I can see the rot eating away at the substructure of health care daily in my job.
Many many more physicians and facilities will no longer accept any form of government payer source. ( because they can't be trusted)
And men forced to work provide poor quality.

Let's say you operate a business that washes apples for $ 1.00 each.
It cost you $0.30 to wash each apple.
Then the forced structure payer source bureaucrats tell you your apple washing was only worth $0.35 each apple.
They tell you this two years after the fact in a "review" then bill you for the difference plus interest.
You already paid your apple washing employees, and the vendors for your apple washing supplies. Your income and advalorum (sp?) taxes, maintenance on your facility, and the mortgage you used for start up capital ( or your investors ).
All based on that $1.00 per apple.

This is what the government payer sources are doing to medical care providers all over America as we speak.

Where pray tell is your incentive to wash apples ??
Even if you were a just business person this would create an unworkable environment.

Add that most care provider entities operate with very high profit margins to the top end of the business structure. ( unjust profit ? )
As do the government agencies / employees whom administer these programs.

And they are passing any loss of income to the consumer either directly ( higher rates to those whom are not government funded ) ... & or ... indirectly by cutting staff / services and greatly reducing quality as well as availability.

All provider services will fail when consumers out number producers.

And in fact all of the government social service providers already have failed but as stated before, are being artificially maintained by unsecured loans from China.

Blah, Blah, Blah....We could do this so cheaply, but we can't because big business won't allow it, and misguided souls do their bidding. It comes down to how you look at life, and you typed quite a bit but you said nothing....

Don't listen.

I don't care.

I'm just telling what I see.

You'll find out soon enough.