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#94249 by CraigMaxim
Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:34 pm
I want to see this movie really badly!

I've been devouring the news articles about the new technologies that had to be developed to even bring his vision of this film to the screen. Alot is riding on it's success actually, because there are some who believe that 3D is the future of movies, and not just the gimmicky "jump out at you" style. I have read that the use of 3D was in all the right places. More subdued, so that it felt that you were being immersed into THEIR world, rather than their word, just jumping offscreen at you here and there. Was that the experience you guys had? Where the 3D seemed natural and normal, rather than gimmicky?

Cameron hired linguists to develop a real language for the Na'vi, similar to how Klingon is an actual language, only his being more thorough and complex.

And also... Very detailed review Colors!

Thanks!

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#94252 by ColorsFade
Mon Dec 21, 2009 7:45 pm
CraigMaxim wrote:I want to see this movie really badly!

I've been devouring the news articles about the new technologies that had to be developed to even bring his vision of this film to the screen. Alot is riding on it's success actually, because there are some who believe that 3D is the future of movies, and not just the gimmicky "jump out at you" style. I have read that the use of 3D was in all the right places. More subdued, so that it felt that you were being immersed into THEIR world, rather than their word, just jumping offscreen at you here and there. Was that the experience you guys had? Where the 3D seemed natural and normal, rather than gimmicky?

Cameron hired linguists to develop a real language for the Na'vi, similar to how Klingon is an actual language, only his being more thorough and complex.

And also... Very detailed review Colors!

Thanks!

.


That is what I have read as well Craig, concerning the use of the 3D. And that's why I am definitely going back to see it in 3D. I have read that Cameron really understood how to best use it.

#94254 by jimmydanger
Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:14 pm
To be honest I haven't seen a 3D movie since the days of the red and blue filter glasses. But this 3D was very well done. It looks like the next Toy Story will be 3D, and several other films as well. The bottom line, you probably could still enjoy the movie without the 3D, but it was a definite plus.

#94278 by gbheil
Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:01 pm
Don't miss out on the 3D of this flick.
Well worn storyline aside. The depth of the 3D is stunning.
I was not overly impressed with the sound track.
But then, this was my first 3D. And I was like all WOW n stuff. :oops:

#94298 by CraigMaxim
Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:27 am
This movie cost about 400 million between production costs and the 150 million spent on marketing it worldwide. It has grossed over 200 million so far, and with snowstorms in the states, many people will be seeing it next weekend, who couldn't get to the theaters this past weekend. I've been reading blog comments, and almost without exception, people are saying the movie is amazing, and many plan on seeing it a second time in theaters. It may very well top one billion dollars when all is said and done, putting it into a rare class, with only a handful of films ever breaking the one billion mark.

I think it will accomplish that and more.

People knew what Star Trek was, what Lord of the Rings was, what Titanic was. But "Avatar"? Not really a... "grab you by the seat of your pants" kind of title. No best selling book that it originated from. This movie heavily depends on "word of mouth" which tells me, that it will have a long run, as that word of mouth spreads.

I also just read an interview with Cameron, in which he says he plans on an Avatar "trilogy" with two more installments to come in the future.

This was a very expensive gamble on the part of the studio, but it looks as if it will pay off, and then some.

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#94317 by jsantos
Tue Dec 22, 2009 3:27 pm
Dude I just saw the movie at the Navy Pier Imax studio in 3D with screens 3 stories tall and 100 feet wide, at certain scenes I felt that I was really falling.

People with vertigo and acrophobia were leaving the theater.


Totally awesome!!

http://www.imax.com/chicago/

#94328 by Starfish Scott
Tue Dec 22, 2009 6:05 pm
lol Barf Coaster! lol

Gee, gotta love a spectacle!

I didn't know it was to be an IMAX deal. Lovely.


I kind of figure that the movie will only be surpassed by the PC version of this game. I see them advertising it and it looks interesting as well.

#94353 by gbheil
Tue Dec 22, 2009 10:57 pm
If I had to critique it based on Craig's questions I'd have to say that too much of the 3D effect was in depth (background) and not enough in the foreground for me feel totally immersed. However there were several scenes where I felt I was "with" the characters. Not just observing.

#94359 by Chippy
Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:57 pm
The only thing that bugs me about this film and having not seen it yet, is lack of actors. I firmly believe we'll have sex by brain and communicate that way too sometime in the future?

Perhaps even the happy drug? Will the new one rising will be born of such things? I've no idea? But I do know that people are becoming more introvert while technology eases the senses.

Interesting title too. (YOU the Avatar).
Sure I'll watch it . At 20 Million who wouldn't?

Sign if things to come methinks? A Virtual sex object that has a voice, sounds human enough yet is does not feel.

#94371 by ColorsFade
Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:54 am
Chippy wrote:The only thing that bugs me about this film and having not seen it yet, is lack of actors. I firmly believe we'll have sex by brain and communicate that way too sometime in the future?

Perhaps even the happy drug? Will the new one rising will be born of such things? I've no idea? But I do know that people are becoming more introvert while technology eases the senses.

Interesting title too. (YOU the Avatar).
Sure I'll watch it . At 20 Million who wouldn't?

Sign if things to come methinks? A Virtual sex object that has a voice, sounds human enough yet is does not feel.


Virtual sex already happens, and I'm sure the technology will improve to the point where it actually feels pretty good too.

But it will never beat the real thing...


Stuff happens in cycles. I can see a point in the future where we become near cyborgs with all the tech at our fingertips, maybe even implanted in our bodies. But eventually we'll come back around to being human. If nothing else, we'll run out of oil and be forced to go back to a more primitive lifestyle that puts us more in tune with the Earth and the land.

The problem will be, of course, the chaos and death we're going to have to go through to get there...

#94415 by gbheil
Wed Dec 23, 2009 4:05 pm
Somebody say CHAOS ???? He he he heeeeee :twisted:

#94682 by CraigMaxim
Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:15 am
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i5b1f69da4015d79cb5fced851c896918

'Avatar' wows 'em worldwide
Global tally clocks in at $617.3 million
By Frank Segers

Dec 27, 2009


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“ Avatar” surprised no one by taking the No. 1 spot on the foreign circuit for the second weekend in a row.

But director James Cameron’s mega-budget epic raised eyebrows with its overseas boxoffice staying power, grossing $145 million -- a mere 12% drop from its opening weekend -- from 14,844 screens. It did well in its second week in the U.S. as well.

Triple-digit opening grosses usually decline substantially in the ensuing weekend. A drop of less than 50% is considered positive by the industry. Distributor 20th Century Fox said “Avatar’s” relative miniscule decline “is even more impressive given theatre closures in many markets on Dec. 24 and/or Dec. 25.”

The film’s offshore cumulative total stands at $405 million. Worldwide tally clocks in at $617.3 million.

Not coincidentally, Fox reported yesterday that its 2009 overseas boxoffice take set a new industry record -- an estimated $2.263 billion, the highest of any Hollywood studio ever “with four more days to go.” (Warner Bros. previously held the foreign b.o. record set in 2007 of $2.240 billion.)

“Avatar’s” Japan opening generated $14.5 million from 1,114 screens while its Poland bow registered $1.8 million from 235 sites. Fox said the film finished No. 1 in 107 of the 108 territories it played on the weekend. It ranked No. 2 in India after a local language title.

The most receptive market is France where “Avatar’s” second weekend gross was $18.5 million from 1,114 sites for a per-screen average of $16,607. France cume stands at $48.4 million.

Fox says “Avatar” is after 10 days the studio’s best-grossing title ever in Korea (cume $29.5 million), Malaysia ($3.2 million), Indonesia ($2.4 million) and Vietnam. Notable are the numbers posted in some of the bigger markets: Spain ($12.1 million from 790 sites, cume $29.9 million) and Germany ($11.8 million from 1,495 screens, cume $32.2 million). The weekend U.K. gross was $6 million from 496 locations for a market cume of $29.6 million.

No. 2 title on the weekend was Fox’s “Alvin and the Chipmunks: The Squeakquel,” with the singing chipmunks generating an animated $36.5 million from 5,492 screens in 42 markets. The distributor said that the sequel to 2007’s “Alvin and the Chipmunks” has “earned 215% of (the original’s) opening.”

“Squeakquel” finished second in at least 20 markets, and generated particularly strong numbers in the U.K. ($8.6 million from 487 screens. The comedy/fantasy has 25 foreign markets yet to play.

No. 3 was Warner Bros. “Sherlock Holmes,” an updating of the Arthur Conan Doyle literary detective with Robert Downey Jr. as Holmes and Jude Law as faithful assistant Dr. Watson. The film’s international launch began at 2,454 screens in 17 markets for a weekend tally of $26 million. Strongest market was Italy where the gross was $6 million from 451 sites for a $13,303 per screen average.

No. 4 was Disney’s Animation’s “The Princess and the Frog,” which pushed its foreign take so far to $27 million thanks to a $7 million weekend from 2,500 sites in 17 territories. Disney said the title drew especially well in Italy where its weekend tally -- $2.9 million from 519 locations – was up 178% from the prior weekend’s take.

No. 5 was “the Twilight Saga: New Moon” with a weekend tally of $5.8 million from 4,233 situations in 67 territories. International cume stands at $389.3 million.

Opening overseas in 11 territories was writer-director Nancy Meyers’ romantic comedy “It’s Complicated” costarring Meryl Streep, Steve Martin and Alec Baldwin, which drew $5.4 million overall from 1,028 screens. Worldwide tally is $27.5 million.

France debut produced a No. 3 ranking in Paris, and $1.5 million from 362 sites in the market. Spain did better with $2.1 million drawn from 321 locations, enough for a No. 3 ranking. “It’s Complicated” will play 52 markets in the coming months with openings in the Middle East set for next weekend.

Sony’s “2012” pushed its foreign cume to $583.7 million thanks to a $5.1 million weekend at 4,300 screens in 75 markets. “Disney’s A Christmas Carol” with Jim Carrey as Ebenezer Scrooge registered $5 million on the weekend from 3,800 screens in 44 markets. Cume stands at $170 million making, according to Disney, the title from director Robert Zemeckis “the biggest Yuletide-themed release ever outside of North America.”

Sony’s “Did You Hear About the Morgans,” costarring Hugh Grant and Sarah Jessica Parker, got off to a lame offshore start in Australia by generating $1.1 million from 208 screens.

Paramount released on Boxing Day (Dec. 26) “The Lovely Bones,” the crime drama/fantasy directed by Peter Jackson and costarring Mark Wahlberg and Rachel Weisz, in Australia and New Zealand for a total of $730,000 from 93 locations.

“Old Dogs,” the Disney comedy with John Travolta and Robin Williams, pushed its overseas cume to $20 million thanks to a $3.5 million weekend at 1,500 screens in 18 territories.

France’s top-grossing local language title remains EuropaCorp. Distribution’s release of director/co-writer Luc Besson’s English-language animation hit, “Arthur e la vengeance de Maltazard.” Fourth weekend generated a No. 2 market ranking with $3 million drawn from 925 situations for a France cume of $25.4 million.

It’s official: “Up” with a $417 overseas total to date has surpassed 2007’s “Ratatouille” (cume of $414 million) to become the second highest-grossing Pixar/Disney title ever, trailing only 2003’s “Finding Nemo” ($527 million). Weekend action for “Up” in Japan, it’s final overseas market, was $2.6 million from 650 screens, hoisting its territorial cume to $32.2 million.

Three newcomers within the weekend’s top France 10 where all imports. Opening at No. 5 was Le Pacte’s release of “Rec 2,” a Spanish horror-thriller from co-directors Jaume Balaguero and Paco Plaza, which grabbed an estimated $1.5 million from 250 locations.

Finishing No. 6 was the British-Czech coproduction “Solomon Kane,” director Michael Michael Bassett’s adventure/fantasy released by Metropolitan Filmexport. Opening tally was an estimated $1.2 million from 300 sites.

Ranking No. 10 in France was Francis Coppola’s “Tetro,” a mystery-drama with Vincent Gallo. The Memento Film’s release opened to an estimated $650,000 from 200 screens.

Other international cumes: Sony’s “Zombieland,” $21.5 million; Mandate Int’l.’s “Saw VI,” $33.6 million; Universal’s “Couples Retreat,” $50.1 million; Studio Canal’s “R.T.T.,” $5.2 million in three rounds, France only; The Weinstein Co./Universal’s “Inglourious Basterds,” $198.3 million; Sony’s “Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs,” $79.4 million (thanks to a $3.8 million weekend at 1,085 screens in 26 markets); Paramount’s “Law Abiding Citizen,” $9.1 million; Pathe’s “Loup,” $5 million over three rounds in France only; Universal’s “Public Enemies,” $114.5 million; Paramount’s “Celda 221,” $12.7 million over eight rounds in Spain only); and Gaumont’s “Le dernier vol,” $2.8 million over two rounds, France only).

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#94683 by CraigMaxim
Mon Dec 28, 2009 2:22 am
CraigMaxim wrote:
'Avatar' wows 'em worldwide
Global tally clocks in at $617.3 million




The movie costs 250 million to make, and another 150 million to market worldwide. So, 400 million (although I have seen some estimates at 500 million)

Either way...

Fox appears to have profitted between 100 and 200 million already, and the movie will be in theaters awhile longer, then DVD sales and rentals come into play.

Seems likely that it will top 1 billion before all is said and done.

Lord, please give me something like Jimmy's income so I can see this movie!!!! :-)

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#94686 by jimmydanger
Mon Dec 28, 2009 4:03 am
Ha, the only problem is my outflow surpasses my income. No matter how much you make you still just get by in this economy.

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