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#13794 by muzickmage
Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:21 am
I'll take your criticism .... not a problem.... at best .... thats all you have to offer .... so lets at least have that.

And yes we were talking about performers .... the main topic is about .... why are musicians not being paid properly while giging....
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#13795 by Franny
Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:22 am
Ok, now tell me what do i do over at Bebo?

#13796 by muzickmage
Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:25 am
Well hey .... i'm willing to admit that I could be wrong .... it happens .... so what .... but at least i'm willing to admit that......

If I we have enough interested people here in the pole idea .... lets do it... but I don't want to bug a bunch of musicians in bebo over a difference of opinion ... for just 3-4 interested parties.

Lets have about 10 people interested in the pole.... then we'll give it a try.

#13797 by Franny
Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:28 am
You're sh*t'n me right? :evil:

#13798 by muzickmage
Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:30 am
lmao franny ..... your going to make this place fun to be at .... lol.
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#13799 by Irminsul
Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:31 am
muzickmage wrote:I'll take your criticism .... not a problem.... at best .... thats all you have to offer .... so lets at least have that.

And yes we were talking about performers .... the main topic is about .... why are musicians not being paid properly while giging....


No, we are NOT solely talking about performers! Where did you learn to read? The thread is "PROFESSIONALS - Are you getting paid?" Wanna show me where the sole qualifier of "performer" is in there?

#13800 by Franny
Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:33 am
I was going to agree with Irminsul that you're young...but now i see you're just Canadian...eh :x

#13801 by muzickmage
Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:33 am
Well thats what I am talking about .... if your not .... well .... we are on a different train then....

Thats fine too.

#13802 by muzickmage
Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:34 am
Yes Franny .... I have to agree with you .... being Canadian DOES make me alot screwed up.

Good observation.

#13803 by muzickmage
Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:37 am
This current topic about professionals is going nowhere .... we are just nipping at each other now..... i'm going to a different topic.

You's have your opinion and I have mine .... so be it.

see ya's on another board.

#13804 by Craig Maxim
Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:38 am
muzickmage wrote:Well thats what I am talking about .... if your not .... well .... we are on a different train then....

Thats fine too.


LMFAO!!!

There must be some reaaaaally good weed in Canada!

I'm visiting as soon as possible. :-)

#13805 by Franny
Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:42 am
Craig Maxim wrote:
muzickmage wrote:Well thats what I am talking about .... if your not .... well .... we are on a different train then....

Thats fine too.


LMFAO!!!

There must be some reaaaaally good weed in Canada!

I'm visiting as soon as possible. :-)
***has thumb out***
Can you pick me up on your way by? 8)

#13814 by Starfish Scott
Wed Oct 17, 2007 6:01 pm
Don't forget my ass, I was born at night, but not last night. LMAO

Bus stop here!

#13822 by JJW III
Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:52 pm
Franny wrote:I was going to agree with Irminsul that you're young...but now i see you're just Canadian...eh :x


Come on Franny that wasn't nice. :cry:

#13825 by Irminsul
Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:01 pm
It can't be Canada...I've been there quite a few times and met a lot of gracious, intelligent people. I think this is a case of a loudmouth poser who has a habit of opening his mouth before he has any facts, and then he retreats to "well on to another topic" when he gets his ass handed to him yet again.

'mage I've always tried to give you the benefit of the doubt by not writing you off after each one of these dust ups. But I'm beginning to realize that it's not doing much good to pursue that tack. If you truly want to go after a career in artist management/representation, your social skills are going to need a major overhaul. I gaurantee you that with the attitudes you demonstrate here, you're going to turn off just about everyone you come in contact with, and that's surely a career killer. So here's a few bits of advice for you, meant to help and not simply to degrade:

1. Don't propose, as a self avowed AMATUER, to judge professionals.

2. Don't make pious pronouncements about things you clearly do not have the facts or knowledge of, before hand. As the old saying goes, "Make sure brain is engaged before putting mouth in gear". It's no crime to be ignorant about a subject if you are willing to learn; but its a major turn off to stubbornly maintain ignorant positions until others back you into a corner. Then, you look like a fool and have little to no credibility left.

3. Don't be so damn arrogant. Frankly, you don't have the gas and haven't paid the dues.

I know this will likely set off another narcissistic (thanks Craig, I think you nailed that one) tirade, so let it roll. But know that we pretty much have your number on this front, and you aren't fooling anyone anymore. So you could learn and evolve, or you could continue as you are and be an unknown, in perpetuity. Your choice.

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