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#193346 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:48 am
O.K. So Jimmy calls moral. You call it legal. We dance good, don't we?

Total freedom can not be based on laws, that is enforcement of another mans freedom. It can not be based on morals, that is just another word for legal based on a different authority.

Geeze,,, for a music website you guys are bringing up some thoughts worthy of a doctoral dissertation. :)

#193358 by Starfish Scott
Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:24 am
jimmydanger wrote:Since morality is different for different people one group's morals cannot be forced on any other group. Even within a particular group morals are dynamic and change over time. Just because your religion teaches that homosexuality or abortion is wrong you have no right to dictate what I believe. This is the primary reason this country was founded - freedom. If you don't like freedom you are in the wrong country.


I still like what he's saying.

You have the right to make mistakes and that's why we like it here in in USA by way of BFE. lol

"Don't tell us what's right and wrong, just learn that there are good and bad of everyone and a little tolerance is a good thing".

If you want to be controlled, you can always move to another country.

#193366 by PaperDog
Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:45 am
Chief Engineer Scott wrote:
jimmydanger wrote:Since morality is different for different people one group's morals cannot be forced on any other group. Even within a particular group morals are dynamic and change over time. Just because your religion teaches that homosexuality or abortion is wrong you have no right to dictate what I believe. This is the primary reason this country was founded - freedom. If you don't like freedom you are in the wrong country.


I still like what he's saying.

You have the right to make mistakes and that's why we like it here in in USA by way of BFE. lol

"Don't tell us what's right and wrong, just learn that there are good and bad of everyone and a little tolerance is a good thing".

If you want to be controlled, you can always move to another country.


Sorry Scotty... Its flat out wrong to murder. I don't tolerate murders or murdering. And, In the case of murder, I have to insist that such persons keep the 'bad' in themselves...to themselves :D

#193368 by gtZip
Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:59 am
jimmydanger wrote:Since morality is different for different people one group's morals cannot be forced on any other group. Even within a particular group morals are dynamic and change over time. Just because your religion teaches that homosexuality or abortion is wrong you have no right to dictate what I believe. This is the primary reason this country was founded - freedom. If you don't like freedom you are in the wrong country.


Which is clearly why we have.... scores... of federal and state laws on the books.

I have every right to dictate what you can "legally" believe, if I be of enough strength or number.

The primary reason this country was founded was to get away from your ancestral line Jimmy.
(I kid, I kid ! )
8)

#193387 by jimmydanger
Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:41 pm
You almost got it right Zip. My ancestors came to this country to find personal and religious freedom and flee persecution from the types that infest this forum. BTW that also means the freedom to reject religion. So the Constitution was written to protect people like me :)

#193390 by J-HALEY
Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:47 pm
jimmydanger wrote:You almost got it right Zip. My ancestors came to this country to find personal and religious freedom and flee persecution from the types that infest this forum. BTW that also means the freedom to reject religion. So the Constitution was written to protect people like me :)


Some of my ancetors were here before yours got it here and took it from them. :wink:

#193391 by jimmydanger
Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:49 pm
Everybody came from somewhere. Native Americans came from Asia, Asians came from Africa. Do you have a point?

#193393 by J-HALEY
Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:53 pm
jimmydanger wrote:Everybody came from somewhere. Native Americans came from Asia, Asians came from Africa. Do you have a point?


Yeah my point is "YOUR FULL OF SH!T" :wink:

#193394 by Mike Nobody
Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:54 pm
Columbus didn't discover America, he invaded it.

#193396 by jimmydanger
Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:11 pm
In a perfect world there would be no borders, unfortunately we haven't evolved that far yet. People like to gather in clumps of like-mindedness, and our clump is better than yours :)
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#193397 by Starfish Scott
Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:17 pm
Why do people think it's ok to inflict their belief system on others?

Quantify MURDER, PD. You talking abortion?

I'm lost in the sauce.

I believe in live and let live.
I am pro-choice though.

"Who am I to tell someone else, how to live or what's right for them"?

sh*t if I did that, I'd be as bad as the rest of the world.
The world is larger than you think.
If someone or something is going on or doing something you really object to, why not go somewhere else?>

Are humans so creepy that they are completely intolerant of anything different then themselves?

Talk about self-absorbed.. If you had some real problems, I bet some of the minor stuff you people find offensive might just magically disappear.

#193399 by jimmydanger
Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:23 pm
Well spoke Scott. Although I believe you are on the BM lib-suspicious list now lol.

#193403 by Starfish Scott
Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:35 pm
Someone is always hating on me, I'm used to it.

I hate politics and liars.. (reads LIARS AND LIES)

Is it too late to go to Sweden>? The women are niiiice. LOL

#193404 by Planetguy
Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:37 pm
Chief Engineer Scott wrote:Why do people think it's ok to inflict their belief system on others?

Quantify MURDER, PD. You talking abortion?




and how many of these people ballyhooing about how abortion=murder/taking a life=wrong in god's eyes are perfectly ok w the death penalty?

sorry....ya can't have it both ways (well, ya can but ya look a little hypocritical as i see it)

same as the folks who are against abortion (cos it's murder) but will make an exception in the case of rape or incest.....is that NOT murder (as you see it) as well? you're still taking a life.

cue the thumpers who justify the death penaly w ...."well, the bible says an eye for an eye"

#193406 by Starfish Scott
Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:44 pm
I'm pro-choice (it's her body)

And I am pro-death penalty. (It's just better to kill them when they need to be killed OR WORSE.)

(I'd be barbequing them night and day and then feeding remains back to the next asshole to hit the hot seat. Talk about a drop in the crime rate, it would plummet considering the fact that if you do something bad enough, I believe your human rights should be completely removed. We could go back to testing everything on death row people instead of animals as well. I bet the animals would be happy about that too.)

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