General Music Chat

Finally this election has ended, for nearly two years my brain has been bombarded by the boobtube every time I turned the TV on, I guess is a small price to pay when considering that some countries have to resort to bullets rather then ballots in order to change leadership.

I make a prediction, this new administration will do better then the last one, it won’t be hard to, do due to the bar being set so low by Bush in the last eight years.

Democrats have swept this election taking the White House and gaining the majority in the Senate, I just hope they use this supremacy wisely.

Republicans can take solace in the knowledge that even though they have lost the election Conservatism ideals are not defeated; proven by the fact that many Republicans have distanced themselves including Mc Cain from Bush, some have done so for political expediency, most have rebuked Bush for betraying those Ideals.

For the first time in my voting life cynicism has been replaced by hope, this guy Obama is an inspiring figure, hopefully he won’t turn into a Mr. Hide.

But the real winners are America and democracy judging the reaction around the world it can be interpreted only in one way, America is regaining the moral high ground once again, where else in a Western Democracy can an African American be elected to the most powerful position in the free world? Only in the USA. The result of this election IMO is going to inspire our allies and admirers and morally disarm detractors and foes.

Like Obama said: The strength of America is measured not by its wealth or military power but rather by its values.

Now I can go back to write and play music I got a feeling is going to be happy music, I just hope I’m not jumpimg the gun here.

In this depressed economy raising taxes can only cause more harm. I remember the Carter years, the economy was in the same place it is today. I just hope Obama uses sound judgement when raising taxes and doesn't get a blow(well you know) in the oval office and the media find out about it anyway! LOL

I remember the Carter years, the economy was in the same place it is todayL

actually Jimmy Carter saved our arses. he actually introduced "long term" policies that paid off in the Reagan administration. A bold step that hadn't been done in our bandaid society in decades. of course the pubs took all o the credit and since they had successfully discredited Carter in order to regain the White House, the people bought it. same ole sheeple!


"The Big Sell"
(verse one)

they sold it as a happy life
well they lied
in this land where idiots rule
you and I we have no pull
and it's a long dark day
and the meek have nothing to say

actually Jimmy Carter saved our arses. he actually introduced "long term" policies that paid off in the Reagan administration. A bold step that hadn't been done in our bandaid society in decades. of course the pubs took all o the credit and since they had successfully discredited Carter in order to regain the White House, the people bought it.

Very true. Carter also preached energy independence and exploring alternative energy sources back in '79. Nobody listened.

In this depressed economy raising taxes can only cause more harm. I remember the Carter years, the economy was in the same place it is today. I just hope Obama uses sound judgement when raising taxes and doesn't get a blow (well you know) in the oval office and the media find out about it anyway! LOL J- Haley wrote.

I tell you Haley no tax raised by Obama it’ll be more expensive then what Bush demanded from us, we tend to think to taxes in monetary terms while a lot of Americans (G.I. Marines and families) have paid taxes with their lives for a useless F…… war which served only one purpose, to enrich Bush’s cronies and his oleaginous friends, that money came from all of us, it was not labeled as taxes but as far as I’m concerned I don’t much care for labels when they take money from my paycheck and it ends up not in the national treasury but in some else’s pocket.

BTW your profile music sounds good, it that you singing? It’s a cool voice

I remember the Carter years, the economy was in the same place it is todayL

actually Jimmy Carter saved our arses. he actually introduced "long term" policies that paid off in the Reagan administration. A bold step that hadn't been done in our bandaid society in decades. of course the pubs took all o the credit and since they had successfully discredited Carter in order to regain the White House, the people bought it. same ole sheeple!


"The Big Sell"
(verse one)

they sold it as a happy life
well they lied
in this land where idiots rule
you and I we have no pull
and it's a long dark day
and the meek have nothing to say

Carter turned me into an admirer after reading his latest book, I don't remember much of his presidency except his handling of the American hostages in Iran.

Hayden you should put music to the big sell, it has the potantial of a good song.

....funny... I just never gave a crap about politics in the first place, so it never really affects my life.... I just go on taking care of my family....eeeking out a living and playing my weekend gigs..

Specifically which "long term policies" are you speaking of Carter is a good man He was a very high profile advocate for peace in the middle east and yes he was for alternitive energy sources he did something few Dems. do and that was give a tax break to Big industry for cutting their energy usage. His foriegn policy was the crown jewel of his presidency. in 1982 the worst recession of my 50 years began do you remember the great recession of the 1980's ?Carters term 1976 to 1980 his long term policies didn't last very long did they? The Reagen presidency came in with a faltering economy and the day he came into office Iran let the hostages go. Do you know why? I remember, because the Giffer had a note delivered to the sha stating that if he didn't we would kick his little flea ass of a country to hell and back (not exactly in those words but it made me feel better) but that is what he meant and Iran new it. Reagans presidency 1980 to 1988 He reduced taxes built our military into the best in the world and shrunk the size of the government and helped destroy communism "Mr. Gorbechav tear down this Wall" when I was a younger man I used to base the success of a president on the quality of my life. During the early years of Reagan my first son was born 1981 I was a struggling musician and union carpenter with a family there were no jobs, by 1985 the jobs were starting to return and then Daddy Reagan busted the air traffic controlers union, do you know what that did to the carpenters union here in the state of Texas (a right to work state) it killed it. The only thing that kept me here was the music scene ( always in a damn band) lol . Look I am not suggesting that the Rep. party is better than the Dems. I have voted for both during my 32 years of being old enough to vote and proudly excersizing my right to do so as a citizen of th U.S.A. but we can't pull out of Iraq now . I was against the war in the beginning and I beleive we were lied to in the begining, if we pull out today the Taliban will be there tomorrow proclaiming Victory and then the war will most certainly be on our soil as it was in 9/11 the Question that all ways comes up toward the end of a pres. election is are you better off than you were 8 years ago or (however many years the pres. was in office) and do you think you will be better off in four years I hope so!

There was only 1 perfect man to ever walk the earth and (dangit Elvis is dead) LOL. The pres. has a lot of power but they have to deal with the congress and senate, sometimes supporting them, and sometimes not. and there is only so much they can do. One thing that my dear ol' Pops told me (god rest his sole) is if you want to get someone all Riled up just talk religon or politics. I sincerely hope I haven't angered my fellow musicians with these post, rather I hope "as you all have me" made you think. Hopefully our country can bring stability to Iraq and we can bring our boys home soon. Be sure to thank a vet. and God Bless the U.S.A.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eh...Carter made it practically impossible for anyone to sue their company for illegal & unsafe practices which end in one's injury - bad decision, imo. Worker's Comp. doesn't cover nearly enough, when it comes to criminal negligence by a corporation.

Reagan - well, I think I've made my views on him rather clear, as he was a a bluff & bluster buffoon who blundered his way through some good things happening in the world that he took way too much credit for. The steps which led to the fall of the Soviet Union were laid down by JFK, LBJ & Nixon, & even Carter, to some extent, long before Reagan took credit for it. You'd think the Germans & the rest of the world had NOTHING to do with the fall of the wall & the reunification of Germany, for example. He was also the one who declared war on 1 in 3 Americans, & ruined our court system & overloaded the jails & penitentiaries with ppl who have harmed no one. His policies then led to the theft of innumerable properties by our gov't in the name of his "war on drugs," which made it financially impossible to even defend yourself against a claim of "drug user" or "trafficker," no matter who made the claim. This, alone, did more to erode our Constitution than any single act by any other president EVER! It was during his term that MADD took control of our police & our highways to the point that you do not any longer have the right to travel without being checked out by the drug & alcohol police. Again, this runs against the grain of the Constitution. He began the witch-hunts known as "crime prevention," which makes each & every American a potential criminal, thus deserving of being checked out.

Reagan laid the groundwork for the pair of Bush's further eroding of our rights, & the ppl still allowed it, & many (like Cheney) would love for this trend to continue, esp in the area of personal privacy!

I just love that frequently spoken slogan - "If you're not doing anything wrong, why would you need to hide anything from us?"

You make this precedent work, then all you need do is write more laws against the freeom of the populace, & you can scrutinize everything until you can arrest anyone at any time for just about anything.

This needs to be stopped, imo, & I have no love at all for those that started this crap. The individual of today has far fewer rights than any citizen in the history of our country.

Does this bother no one but me?

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Btw...Reagan's note went to the Ayatolla, NOT the Shah. The Shah had been deposed in Carter's administration, after being set up as a puppet gov't back in the late '50's by Ike, I believe. Yet another example of our medding in other countries where we don't belong to further our interests in oil.

Carter's policies kept everything out in the open on the up & up. Reagan's & the Bush's, did not, clearly, & it is for this, among other stupid things, that so many countries have learned to hate us, with good cause.

philbymon, I love ya, but you are coocoo for cocoa puffs as far as Reagan is concerned.
One of the top 5 presidents this country has had. Easily.
The fall of the soviet union, was due mostly to them going bankrupt. Trying to keep up with us in an arms race.

MADD is not a government organization. -- counter with your own T-shirts: Drunks Against Mad Mothers.

The 'war on drugs' was a bad idea. BAAAAAAAD idea. But they had to try something to get a handle on the coke heads of the 80's.
You know... government sees loss of control, government freaks out and implements some crazy scheme... rinse, lather, repeat.

* By the way if they really want to stop the drug trade, put the highest penalities on the buyers, not the dealers. Fair? No. But the drug trade would shrivel up quicker than sh!t if a person got an automatic 5 years for say, buying weed.
Any person that wasn't already an addict of some sort would be crazy to buy any drug.
Extreme? Unfair? Oppressive? -- Yes.
I'm just sayin... that's how would you stop it. Fear in the consumers.

Having typed all of that... I don't believe in any new laws.
Many moons ago we reached the point of too many laws.

Yes, I should have said that MADD's cause now drives our police to break our Constitutional rights in the area of free & unobstructed travel. Poorly worded, that.

Reagan was still a buffoon though.

JFK, LBJ, & Nixon easily laid the groundwork for the fall of the Soviets in their own proliferations of arms & propaganda against them. How can anyone say that Reagan did it alone?

Carter, if I remember rightly, also helped to keep them out of NATO, but I may be remembering this wrongly. I'm a little fuzzy on that one, but I seem to remember something about that.

I dont know that it's said that Reagan did it alone. But I think he faced the most heat next to JFK from the soviets.
He stayed the course, and was there when the dam broke.

And he managed to form a pretty decent relationship with Gorby, which might have helped the world out more than anything.

It's always interesting to see how different presidents get painted as the villain or the hero.
Lincoln is beloved in the history books, but he tore this country apart. -- Viciously.
In hindsight, it was the right thing to do of course, but he was hated by many a person at the time.

Anyway, I find that it still ISN'T really over, if my TV is any indicator. Now I'm being assaulted by all of the replays of the crap that led to Obama's win. Why must we recap everything? WHEN WILL IT BE OVER?

Can't they find anything new to talk about YET?

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Thanks Fretwork, the first song (cover) Main Street was one of those 1 take Demo's I did in a band called Tripleplay it was one of those 2cd bands I was In about 3 years ago. All of the originals are all me I wrote them, arranged, and played all the instruments and sang all vocals, the drums I sequenced from Discreet Drums, and tracked, mastered and burned on my BR1180 These are the recordings I submitted to the Library of Congress for copywrite.