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You guys ought to be ashamed. You call a man a racist without taking five minutes to check out the facts. Turns out NY Times edited the interview to make it seem so. Gee...what a surprise.

I'm particularly disappointed with conservatives and libertarians who swallowed that nonsense and ought to know better. Google is your friend.

Here is the un-edited interview, and then an interview with his black bodyguard. Life is just a bit more complicated than a sound bite.

I'm sure Mister Bundy will accept your apologies. He's like that.

http://www.tpnn.com/2014/04/25/cliven-b ... -that-man/

http://www.tpnn.com/2014/04/25/cliven-b ... -that-man/

Maybe now they can set him up to seem like a pedophile.

Talbot

sorry mike, i'll not waste another minute listening to that racist.

he said what he said. period.

context??? pfffft

now, if you tell me they dubbed in his words that's another story.

ya know what....if Joe Biden or anyone in Obama's administration made those same racist comments...everyone who's now making excuses for Bundy would be screaming bloody murder and storming the castle with torches.

It is NOT about context. The is exactly what he said. The liars at NYT edited it to make him look bad.

But I guess facts don't matter to you...you've made up your mind. Oh well.

Talbot

It is NOT about context. The is exactly what he said. The liars at NYT edited it to make him look bad.

But I guess facts don't matter to you...you've made up your mind. Oh well.

Talbot

Sorry but it doesn't fit the narrative that conservative MUST be racists...so it doesn't count.

I really don't understand why people choose to believe lies?





As it turns out, the real racists are overwhelmingly Democrats/Socialists/Leftists. But please don't let the truth get in the way of good propaganda!

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/37 ... -cavanaugh

It is NOT about context. The is exactly what he said. The liars at NYT edited it to make him look bad.

But I guess facts don't matter to you...you've made up your mind. Oh well.

Talbot

You mean like the liberal liars at NBC edited the 911 tape of Zimmerman and then posted pictures of a 12 year old child to stir up racial strife?



say it isn't so!?



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But I guess facts don't matter to you...you've made up your mind. Oh well.

Talbot

LOL!

and how i see it....no regard for facts is exactly what's being demonstrated by those trying to justify away his racist comments.

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ted, you crack me up when you toss out crap like that and present it as FACT and "TRUTH".

whose truth...your's????

yep, no doubt all card carrying members of the KKK, skinheads, and neo nazis.....no doubt they all are Dems and lefties who all support Obama and have their car radios hardwired to NPR!

damn lefties!

thanks for the laugh!

ted, you crack me up when you toss out crap like that and present it as FACT and "TRUTH".

whose truth...your's????

yep, no doubt all card carrying members of the KKK, skinheads, and neo nazis.....no doubt they all are Dems and lefties who all support Obama and have their car radios hardwired to NPR!

damn lefties!

thanks for the laugh!

Glad I could make you chuckle!

I'm using hyperbole to illustrate your extreme position actually. It's just sad that you won't even consider that you've been manipulated and lied to about this person, not even willing to think about it if it doesn't fit the narrative that ALL conservatives are racist?



Bro....that's bigotry and you're bigger than that.


But it is factual record that NBC doctored the Zimmerman tapes, and the Justice Department funded Al Sharpton's fraud to stir up black votes in Sanford FL

But my guess is you don't want to look at that either?





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I wonder what haley would say. prolly something like this....

. It amazes me how you liberals try to discredit someone by changing the subject. Do you have ADHD? Your boring attempt is so cliche' it's laughable.

but to this.....

It's just sad that you won't even consider that you've been manipulated and lied to about this person, not even willing to think about it if it doesn't fit the narrative that ALL conservatives are racist?

I never said all conservatives were racists nor do I believe that. you however DID say that most racists are dems and libs.

Makes no difference if he's racist or not.
The BLM versus citizen scenario has nothing to do with that junk.

What is he, like 76 years old? Shocker that he has fixed opinions about non-whites.
It's too bad, but pretty common, for people in the 70 to 100+ year old age range to have crummy views on race, and sexual orientation.

I'm hearing reports that Bundy is a Democrat and donated to the Democratic Party!

I'm hearing reports that Bundy is a Democrat and donated to the Democratic Party!

Irrelevant.

I never said all conservatives were racists nor do I believe that. you however DID say that most racists are dems and libs.

Again, you're missing the point, bro. I said it as hyperbole in response to you saying this:

sorry mike, i'll not waste another minute listening to that racist.

You readily accepted a New York Times articles that this man is a racist and also that he is a conservative, without being willing to see what people much closer to him report, not only about what was actually said but about his character.

Why do you accept NYT without any critical analysis whatsoever? Because you've bought the goods you were sold. Why do you do that? Because it fits the narrative you choose to believe.


I'm only commenting on your unwillingness to look at any other side of the story. You believe the same liberal media who has been PROVEN to be fanning racist flames.

Here is the other side of stories you have bought, where you cast doubt on what you labeled "my version of the truth":

Only after they were caught, NBC admits lying
http://www.mediaite.com/online/nbc-news ... pologizes/


The so-called "justice" department backing known extortionist-fraud Al Sharpton's race-baiting in Sanford FL
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/martin ... id/514423/




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I wonder what haley would say. prolly something like this....

. It amazes me how you liberals try to discredit someone by changing the subject. Do you have ADHD? Your boring attempt is so cliche' it's laughable.

but to this.....

It's just sad that you won't even consider that you've been manipulated and lied to about this person, not even willing to think about it if it doesn't fit the narrative that ALL conservatives are racist?

That's cause they are Mark!

I never said all conservatives were racists nor do I believe that. you however DID say that most racists are dems and libs.

That's cause they are Mark:wink:

Why do you accept NYT without any critical analysis whatsoever? Because you've bought the goods you were sold. Why do you do that? Because it fits the narrative you choose to believe.


I'm only commenting on your unwillingness to look at any other side of the story. You believe the same liberal media who has been PROVEN to be fanning racist flames.

before you get any further spun up in this NARRATIVE of your's.... let me clear something up right now.

I did not form my opinion based on the NYT. I watched the interview w Bundy (no, not just the 20 second sound byte) and listened w MY ears to what HE had to say....

and THEN I drew MY opinion from that. no goods were bought.



now, as for this soapbox you're on about the media being manipulative to further their views....when AIN'T that been so?

and I know you're smart enough to know and perhaps even acknowledge that the conservative media plays it the same way.

do I have a point?.....yeah, maybe. don't be so quick to assume that everyone comes their views and opinions because they've been duped by the media.

hell, I don't do that w conservatives and those that hold different views than mine. it kinda comes off a little condescending.