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#222705 by DainNobody
Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:31 pm
I need to look up whether corporate America/World Markets stocks that deal with health care, such as your Humana's and Merck's etc. and whose stock price should be reflecting the success or failure of ObamaCare it..we would have to go back to the day ObamaCare was announced which is several years ago now, and see what these stocks have done price wise since the ObamaCare announcement and then we would not have to call each other names and such, we would know if ObamaCare is a success cause corporate America/World said so, I can't see how it can't be a success since Emergency Room fraud and failure to pay is now non-existant, cause everybody by law, is supposed to have Medical insurance and paying on a still relatively expensive policy.. the corporations are smiling ;>)

#222710 by jimmydanger
Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:22 am
I'm not sure if your hypothesis is valid Dane. Pretty much all stocks have risen due to the much-improved economic conditions that have occurred during Obama's watch. Also, people are living longer, taking more drugs and using more health services than ever before so naturally the whole health care industry is doing great. The real litmus test will happen a year or two from now when the ACA fully kicks in. I suspect the righties will tire of screaming "socialism" and concentrate on the 2014 elections.

#222715 by J-HALEY
Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:45 am
jimmydanger wrote:I'm not sure if your hypothesis is valid Dane. Pretty much all stocks have risen due to the much-improved economic conditions that have occurred during Obama's watch. Also, people are living longer, taking more drugs and using more health services than ever before so naturally the whole health care industry is doing great. The real litmus test will happen a year or two from now when the ACA fully kicks in. I suspect the righties will tire of screaming "socialism" and concentrate on the 2014 elections.

Jimmy, you have to consider the fact that on Obama's watch he is propping up the economy by buying up 40 billion in bonds and 45 billion in mortgage securities every month. That's unsustainable bro! And it is a fake economy! Really I hope everything works out for the best but everything I know and believe tells me it cannot. To bad the majority of the country is so enamerd with this president they will continually give Him a blank check and trust he will do the right thing. For Gawd sakes this man is threatening to shut down the government and refuses to negotiate any compromise on Obama care! Trust me when I say I have an understanding of what is going on from a perspective 99.99% of Americans don't! It is a sad day when the majority of Americans believe that any politician will CON their way through the house and senate to pass a bill and say you have to pass it before you can read it or know what's in it? No President in my lifetime has ever gotten a pass or free reign to just do as he pleases and all the sheeple just follow along?

#222716 by J-HALEY
Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:46 am
jimmydanger wrote:I'm not sure if your hypothesis is valid Dane. Pretty much all stocks have risen due to the much-improved economic conditions that have occurred during Obama's watch. Also, people are living longer, taking more drugs and using more health services than ever before so naturally the whole health care industry is doing great. The real litmus test will happen a year or two from now when the ACA fully kicks in. I suspect the righties will tire of screaming "socialism" and concentrate on the 2014 elections.

Jimmy, you have to consider the fact that on Obama's watch he is propping up the economy by buying up 40 billion in bonds and 45 billion in mortgage securities every month. That's unsustainable bro! And it is a fake economy! Really I hope everything works out for the best but everything I know and believe tells me it cannot. To bad the majority of the country is so enamerd with this president they will continually give Him a blank check and trust he will do the right thing. For Gawd sakes this man is threatening to shut down the government and refuses to negotiate any compromise on Obama care! Trust me when I say I have an understanding of what is going on from a perspective 99.99% of Americans don't! It is a sad day when the majority of Americans believe that any politician will CON their way through the house and senate to pass a bill and say you have to pass it before you can read it or know what's in it? No President in my lifetime has ever gotten a pass or free reign to just do as he pleases and all the sheeple just follow along?

#222718 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Sep 29, 2013 1:06 pm
jimmydanger wrote:I'm not sure if your hypothesis is valid Dane. Pretty much all stocks have risen due to the much-improved economic conditions that have occurred during Obama's watch. Also, people are living longer, taking more drugs and using more health services than ever before so naturally the whole health care industry is doing great. The real litmus test will happen a year or two from now when the ACA fully kicks in. I suspect the righties will tire of screaming "socialism" and concentrate on the 2014 elections.


Sorry Jimmy. Haley is wrong.
ITS 80 BILLION A MONTH on top of the 2 major 800 BILION + printing of PHONY DOLLARS.

Want to understand why you have been paying over 3 bucks a gallon for gas... Well the answer is simple you commie bastard. Your dollar aint worth sqaut any more... Your lack of understanding just proves that all the education in the world, can't stop a stupid idiot from becoming a superior stupid idiot. :lol:

#222719 by jimmydanger
Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:33 pm
Why are you such a tool Glenny? No wonder you're such a loser, you're jealous of people like me who are winners. Sucks to be you.

#222736 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:15 pm
jimmydanger wrote:Why are you such a tool Glenny? No wonder you're such a loser, you're jealous of people like me who are winners. Sucks to be you.


Jimmy you are just such a pusssy with a little lump in your pants. All you ever do is sling insults and suck up to really good players.

The problem with all your liberal, thinking is that you believe STEALING IS OK. That is exactly what our government is doing. Our government is stealing from our children's future. I can deal with the fact that MY TAX DOLLARS went to support YOU, when your life went south of the border.
YOU COLLECTED UNEMPLOYMENT!

Here you are calling me a tool and a loser... That is a very funny joke. :lol:


By the way... I don't need or want any money from my government... in fact... I want to support a government that I strongly believe in. BUT...
I will not support a government that wants me to give more than God asks. All this to give you free MONEY.

Jimmy... remember to wipe. :lol:

#222745 by DainNobody
Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:19 am
GLENNY J wrote:
jimmydanger wrote:Why are you such a tool Glenny? No wonder you're such a loser, you're jealous of people like me who are winners. Sucks to be you.


Jimmy you are just such a pusssy with a little lump in your pants. All you ever do is sling insults and suck up to really good players.

The problem with all your liberal, thinking is that you believe STEALING IS OK. That is exactly what our government is doing. Our government is stealing from our children's future. I can deal with the fact that MY TAX DOLLARS went to support YOU, when your life went south of the border.
YOU COLLECTED UNEMPLOYMENT!

Here you are calling me a tool and a loser... That is a very funny joke. :lol:


By the way... I don't need or want any money from my government... in fact... I want to support a government that I strongly believe in. BUT...
I will not support a government that wants me to give more than God asks. All this to give you free MONEY.

Jimmy... remember to wipe. :lol:
they have already told us it is not tax supported GLENNY, it depends on how many policies they sell on the open market as to whether ObamaCare will be a success or not, where do you get your information GLENNY? do you pull it out of your ass?

#222749 by DainNobody
Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:24 am
here are the specifics.. ObamaCare was signed into law on March 23, 2010 .. the following day, on March 24, 2010 Humana Inc. HUM closed trading at $46.36 .. today the stock trades at $93.88.. it has more than doubled in a little over 3 years.. so any fool should be able to see with their own two eyes that corporate America involved with hospital industry loves ObamaCare cause it will be highly profitable for them.. it is not tax dollars that will be funneled into HUM hands it will be thousands and perhaps millions of new customers added to their books.. how is the tax payer going to get hurt? answer: he will not

#222754 by J-HALEY
Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:47 am
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:here are the specifics.. ObamaCare was signed into law on March 23, 2010 .. the following day, on March 24, 2010 Humana Inc. HUM closed trading at $46.36 .. today the stock trades at $93.88.. it has more than doubled in a little over 3 years.. so any fool should be able to see with their own two eyes that corporate America involved with hospital industry loves ObamaCare cause it will be highly profitable for them.. it is not tax dollars that will be funneled into HUM hands it will be thousands and perhaps millions of new customers added to their books.. how is the tax payer going to get hurt? answer: he will not


Dane I am glad you made it back and I hope you are doing well! To answer your question above, the tax payer will be hurt because the government is going to subsidize the payments of people that can't afford the payments. In my opinion that is going to be LOTS of folks because now that they are letting the details out it turns out the Affordable Health Care Act is not very affordable. Two things are going to happen IMO, one taxes are going to be raised on the rest of us and health care cost is going to be higher. Another thing is that some lower middle class families aren't going to be able to afford it so they will now be breaking the law. All of this to pay for health care for folks that for the most part have made bad decisions in their lives and will be rewarded for such. You know that very soon after being implemented the benefits WILL be extended to illegal aliens.

#222789 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:12 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:
GLENNY J wrote:
jimmydanger wrote:Why are you such a tool Glenny? No wonder you're such a loser, you're jealous of people like me who are winners. Sucks to be you.


Jimmy you are just such a pusssy with a little lump in your pants. All you ever do is sling insults and suck up to really good players.

The problem with all your liberal, thinking is that you believe STEALING IS OK. That is exactly what our government is doing. Our government is stealing from our children's future. I can deal with the fact that MY TAX DOLLARS went to support YOU, when your life went south of the border.
YOU COLLECTED UNEMPLOYMENT!

Here you are calling me a tool and a loser... That is a very funny joke. :lol:


By the way... I don't need or want any money from my government... in fact... I want to support a government that I strongly believe in. BUT...
I will not support a government that wants me to give more than God asks. All this to give you free MONEY.

Jimmy... remember to wipe. :lol:
they have already told us it is not tax supported GLENNY, it depends on how many policies they sell on the open market as to whether ObamaCare will be a success or not, where do you get your information GLENNY? do you pull it out of your ass?



AND YOU BELIEVE ALL THAT CRAP!

I have a great bridge in Brooklyn. I'll sell it to you CHEAP. Just bring cash.

#222805 by Slacker G
Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:40 am
To believe ANYTHING that lying sack of crap in the White house says is like trusting the guy on the street running the old "Which cup is the pea under" scam. The creeps in this whole regime are nothing but con men and swindlers.

It should be called the Unaffordable no care act.

But then again, the only reason that is is affordable for some is that they will tell others it cost too much to treat them, just go home and die. Here's a couple of pain pills for ya. That'll be an extra $200.

Then they can give the treatment money that they should have spent on you to the government union guys to pay for that 90% of the insurance costs that they were exempted from paying.

#222849 by Starfish Scott
Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:17 pm
I thought this is why they are shutting down the govt.

(NO MORE BEER/ NO MORE GASOLINE) lol

#222865 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:49 pm
Slacker G wrote:To believe ANYTHING that lying sack of crap in the White house says is like trusting the guy on the street running the old "Which cup is the pea under" scam. The creeps in this whole regime are nothing but con men and swindlers.

It should be called the Unaffordable no care act.

But then again, the only reason that is is affordable for some is that they will tell others it cost too much to treat them, just go home and die. Here's a couple of pain pills for ya. That'll be an extra $200.

Then they can give the treatment money that they should have spent on you to the government union guys to pay for that 90% of the insurance costs that they were exempted from paying.


Slacker is spewing some truth here. We the People OWE 17 TRILLION DOLLARS.

Thats OK lets just tack on another couple trillion for the unbelievable stupidity of the SHEEP... BAH BAH BAH.
Let us all play on the stupidity of the masses that have been so brainwashed that they no longer know. Let us rob all the future of Americans. So sad.

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