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#219210 by Slacker G
Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:33 pm
Because we have not followed the Lords commandments

Deu 28:43 (BBE) The man from a strange land who is living among you will be lifted up higher and higher over you, while you go down lower and lower.

No?
#219213 by DainNobody
Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:04 pm
Slacker G wrote:Because we have not followed the Lords commandments

Deu 28:43 (BBE) The man from a strange land who is living among you will be lifted up higher and higher over you, while you go down lower and lower.

No?
first, we need to break down this verse into it's proper context? who is the stranger living among us? would that be a Cushite? LOL!
#219234 by Slacker G
Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:54 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:
Slacker G wrote:Because we have not followed the Lords commandments

Deu 28:43 (BBE) The man from a strange land who is living among you will be lifted up higher and higher over you, while you go down lower and lower.

No?
first, we need to break down this verse into it's proper context? who is the stranger living among us? would that be a Cushite? LOL!


All scripture is for reproof and correction. Do you believe that this country founded on the principles of God and that it prospered beyond measure because of that will not also suffer the curse? How foolish. Open your eyes as to what is happening in our land. Go read the blessing and the curse. What land is God speaking of? Don't you know that he was speaking to the Jews, his chosen people?? And who are the Jews? A Jew is not one born a Jew but rather one circumcised of the heart.

What group has more rights than you? What group does this bill give license to forge documents and steal identities without penalty? What group does your tax money support although they are illegal? What group is not penalized for breaking our immigration laws? What group can not be deported under almost any conditions for breaking many laws under this bill? Need I go on? Have you read any of this amnesty bill? It was written my LARAZA lawyers. I suggest that you go on line and check out some of these ridiculous proposals that allow them far more freedom than Americans. And they do not even have to submit to this health care debacle but you do. That means employers can fire citizens and hire illegals and not have to foot their employees health care bills. This bill sets aside all Mexican prison terms including those of criminals already tried convicted and serving time. THEY WILL WALK FREE under this bill.

I am sure you will find all of these things and tons of other measures of injustice against Americans in this bill. They, not the American citizen, are behind this bill. And you don't see that you have lost your voice in this matter and that Mexico is ruling in Washington against you??? Just what will it take to awake people to how the jobs will disappear and the wages will lower. What will it take to let Americans know that their tax dollars are being used to support people who are ruling against them in high places? What dupes we are. We are handing our country over to those who simply wish to use it for their gain while we foot the bill.

I guess stupid is as stupid allows. And you are implying that this is simply divine coincidence?

#219238 by DainNobody
Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:18 pm
I get it now, you are referring to the Mexicans symbolized as "the stranger" who is held in higher esteem than me, a true blue American, that has always figured out a way to make a dollar..

#219266 by MikeTalbot
Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:53 am
This 'immigration bill' is not about immigration.

It is about creating yet another protected class and expanding government to even greater levels - setting up whole new agencies.

The illegal aliens brought 'out of the shadows' will get full 'social benefits,' medical care and are allowed, get this, allowed two forged passports before being judged 'criminal.' (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/rub ... -its-crime)

I posted a link because it's too unbelievable. But not as unbelievable as this: employers get a 5k bonus if they hire an illegal/legal now - as opposed to an American. Is that insane?!

This also overwhelms our already destitute infrastructure. Emergency rooms are closing in CA. Environment? Screw it - bring in more cars and use more resources. And it guarantees that blacks in the inner cities will stay there - as illegals take the jobs they should be working.

They (the swine - Republicans and Democrats) are framing this as a racial issue and that we who are against it hate Mexicans / Hispanics. I'd be willing to hate them, I suppose, if I knew them all. But I don't!!! :D

Plus, my boss is Hispanic! :wink:

What I hate is endorsing criminality - giving these border jumpers priority over friends of mine from Mexico, South Africa, India, China and even Canada! Being a legal immigrant is a great big hassle, believe me.

And I hate the social impact. The whole world is freaking out right now - America really is important on the world stage - but the NSA leaks, all this crazy, murderous activity in the middle east that we are involved in (who are the good guys?) and our out of control central govt...

Threatening to boycott Olympics to punish Russia? Jeeze...

We are so involved in everybody's business that if this sort of nonsense brings us down, as it might, the rest of the world is in deep sh*t too.

Just my .02.

Talbot

#219281 by DainNobody
Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:15 am
exploitation of Mexicans is all you guys wish for.. they deserve better treatment then they are now receiving.. America is a racist country...always has been..

#219297 by Starfish Scott
Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:14 pm
Shhh don't say the word "racist" or all the hillbillies will get all inflamed.

If we don't exploit the Mexicans, who do we have left to exploit? (that's a joke, dick)

You know it, Dane..just no one wants to admit it.

#219309 by Slacker G
Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:13 pm
Dane Ellis Allen wrote:exploitation of Mexicans is all you guys wish for.. they deserve better treatment then they are now receiving.. America is a racist country...always has been..


Yeah.

And they also deserve not to crowd in front of all the others trying to come here legally. You know Dane, I just wish that every time you had to stand in line a long time for anything that a few dozen would push and crowd ahead of you. Then maybe you would have a clue as to what many of us are really saying.

For all the thick headed. I do not believe that any of us are against Mexican immigration. We are against lawlessness. Got it?

#219314 by Starfish Scott
Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:51 pm
That's the argument right?

It's not that we don't want to let them in, we just want them to come in legally and pay taxes like ALL THE REST OF US DO.

Other than that, I noticed that they work harder than most people do in general. An admirable trait for sure. Now if we could just fix the other aspects of it.

#219330 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:54 am
The other aspects of that include the fact that we have allowed socialism into the daily lives of average Americans.
Ask not what you can do for your country but ask ... where is my fair share?

It is even worse when people that are so broken, hope to come to America just to survive on the scraps they can steal, or even better, hope to be a part of the great American communist experiment.

Shall we try to be realistic here and call us what we have really become...

A GODLESS NATION of RACIST THIEVES.

Sad... :(

#219336 by MikeTalbot
Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:24 pm
Scott

Stats (and personal experience) show the first generation Mexicans (illegals) usually do work pretty darn hard.

The second gen is the problem. They see people their age doing squat and they are forcefed propaganda about how racist we are and pretty soon they're in a gang kicking the crime stats up.

Talbot

#219340 by Starfish Scott
Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:10 pm
SSDD.

Take the criminal element and deport it.

As a foreigner, I think all you have to do to get thrown out of the US is commit a felony, right?

"1 and done". (keep the bus running) lol

I have some friends that are Mexican. They are just like anyone else, albeit very afraid. The one guy's dad said it the best, "a few ruin it for all the rest".

Hell we should deport some of our regulars as well.
Once you get outside the country, you remember what it is you liked about the US in general. Trouble is, it may be too late at that point.

As for the gang thing? If you make it hard enough to live, plenty of people will join gangs. I considered it once, myself.

If your family sucks, it's a home away from home and believe me, they do take care of their own. They are plenty of worse things that happen daily. I just have a strong aversion to JAIL.

#219345 by Slacker G
Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:46 pm
Want to know what is really in this phony amnesty bill?

Go to this page and listen to or download the 7/18/13 program. The first 15 minutes will do. You will find that identity theft is forgiven the first two times an illegal is caught, and the third time he can't automatically become a citizen. (for a period of time.) How about you trying to steal someones identity and get caught. Do you get three chances? There are three demoncrat slush funds hidden within the bill. You can be convicted and already been incarcerated for any crime and be set free as soon as the bill becomes law. You get two free drunken driving convictions, on the third one you will be penalized. No offenses will cause any illegal to be deported. Does that work for American citizens also? Just listen to a small amount of this crap that is hidden int this "amnesty" bill.

Along with everything else, your taxes will pay for lawyers for illegals to fight charges. Companies will have to pay health care for American citizens but not for illegals. That makes a great savings on production costs. Americans will loose their jobs over this and they will be replaced by illegals.

http://www.marklevinshow.com/common/pag ... &is_corp=0

7/18/13

#219350 by gtZip
Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:21 pm
Well, just go become a Mexican citizen.
Then come back illegally.

#219354 by Starfish Scott
Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:00 pm
HOLY sh*t, they get 3 chances?

WOW that's 2 too many for my patience level.

I do one thing wrong and I look at doing hard time.
How do they get away with doing the same sh*t 3x and still here to gab about it? GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

PS: If I thought I could get away with a bunch of hokey sh*t, I'd try for a dual citizenship, US + Mexico.

Some of the poorest people you know are also some of the nicest and well-bred. You just wouldn't know it because people in general are afraid of that which they do not know or understand. It's takes a certain type of person to go scumbag and seems like it don't follow socioeconomic factors as closely as we'd like to believe.

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