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#96220 by CraigMaxim
Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:42 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/opinion/10rich.html

Op-Ed Columnist
The Other Plot to Wreck America

By FRANK RICH
Published: January 9, 2010


THERE may not be a person in America without a strong opinion about what coulda, shoulda been done to prevent the underwear bomber from boarding that Christmas flight to Detroit. In the years since 9/11, we’ve all become counterterrorists. But in the 16 months since that other calamity in downtown New York — the crash precipitated by the 9/15 failure of Lehman Brothers — most of us are still ignorant about what Warren Buffett called the “financial weapons of mass destruction” that wrecked our economy. Fluent as we are in Al Qaeda and body scanners, when it comes to synthetic C.D.O.’s and credit-default swaps, not so much.

What we don’t know will hurt us, and quite possibly on a more devastating scale than any Qaeda attack. Americans must be told the full story of how Wall Street gamed and inflated the housing bubble, made out like bandits, and then left millions of households in ruin. Without that reckoning, there will be no public clamor for serious reform of a financial system that was as cunningly breached as airline security at the Amsterdam airport. And without reform, another massive attack on our economic security is guaranteed. Now that it can count on government bailouts, Wall Street has more incentive than ever to pump up its risks — secure that it can keep the bonanzas while we get stuck with the losses.

The window for change is rapidly closing. Health care, Afghanistan and the terrorism panic may have exhausted Washington’s already limited capacity for heavy lifting, especially in an election year. The White House’s chief economic hand, Lawrence Summers, has repeatedly announced that “everybody agrees that the recession is over” — which is technically true from an economist’s perspective and certainly true on Wall Street, where bailed-out banks are reporting record profits and bonuses. The contrary voices of Americans who have lost pay, jobs, homes and savings are either patronized or drowned out entirely by a political system where the banking lobby rules in both parties and the revolving door between finance and government never stops spinning.

It’s against this backdrop that this week’s long-awaited initial public hearings of the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission are so critical. This is the bipartisan panel that Congress mandated last spring to investigate the still murky story of what happened in the meltdown. Phil Angelides, the former California treasurer who is the inquiry’s chairman, told me in interviews late last year that he has been busy deploying a tough investigative staff and will not allow the proceedings to devolve into a typical blue-ribbon Beltway exercise in toothless bloviation.

He wants to examine the financial sector’s “greed, stupidity, hubris and outright corruption” — from traders on the ground to the board room. “It’s important that we deliver new information,” he said. “We can’t just rehash what we’ve known to date.” He understands that if he fails to make news or to tell the story in a way that is comprehensible and compelling enough to arouse Americans to demand action, Wall Street and Washington will both keep moving on, unchallenged and unchastened.

Angelides gets it. But he has a tough act to follow: Ferdinand Pecora, the legendary prosecutor who served as chief counsel to the Senate committee that investigated the 1929 crash as F.D.R. took office. Pecora was a master of detail and drama. He riveted America even without the aid of television. His investigation led to indictments, jail sentences and, ultimately, key New Deal reforms — the creation of the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Glass-Steagall Act, designed to prevent the formation of banks too big to fail.

As it happened, a major Pecora target was the chief executive of National City Bank, the institution that would grow up to be Citigroup. Among other transgressions, National City had repackaged bad Latin American debt as new securities that it then sold to easily suckered investors during the frenzied 1920s boom. Once disaster struck, the bank’s executives helped themselves to millions of dollars in interest-free loans. Yet their own employees had to keep ponying up salary deductions for decimated National City stock purchased at a heady precrash price.

Trade bad Latin American debt for bad mortgage debt, and you have a partial portrait of Citigroup at the height of the housing bubble. The reckless Citi executives of our day may not have given themselves interest-free loans, but they often walked away with the short-term, illusionary profits while their employees were left with shredded jobs and 401(k)’s. Among those Citi executives was Robert Rubin, who, as the Clinton Treasury secretary, helped repeal the last vestiges of Glass-Steagall after years of Wall Street assault. Somewhere Pecora is turning in his grave

Rubin has never apologized, let alone been held accountable. But he’s hardly alone. Even after all the country has gone through, the titans who fueled the bubble are heedless. In last Sunday’s Times, Sandy Weill, the former chief executive who built Citigroup (and recruited Rubin to its ranks), gave a remarkable interview to Katrina Brooker blaming his own hand-picked successor, Charles Prince, for his bank’s implosion. Weill said he preferred to be remembered for his philanthropy. Good luck with that.

Among his causes is Carnegie Hall, where he is chairman of the board. To see how far American capitalism has fallen, contrast Weill with the giant who built Carnegie Hall. Not only is Andrew Carnegie remembered for far more epic and generous philanthropy than Weill’s — some 1,600 public libraries, just for starters — but also for creating a steel empire that actually helped build America’s industrial infrastructure in the late 19th century. At Citi, Weill built little more than a bloated gambling casino. As Paul Volcker, the regrettably powerless chairman of Obama’s Economic Recovery Advisory Board, said recently, there is not “one shred of neutral evidence” that any financial innovation of the past 20 years has led to economic growth. Citi, that “innovative” banking supermarket, destroyed far more wealth than Weill can or will ever give away.

Even now — despite its near-death experience, despite the departures of Weill, Prince and Rubin — Citi remains as imperious as it was before 9/15. Its current chairman, Richard Parsons, was one of three executives (along with Lloyd Blankfein of Goldman Sachs and John Mack of Morgan Stanley) who failed to show up at the mid-December White House meeting where President Obama implored bankers to increase lending. (The trio blamed fog for forcing them to participate by speakerphone, but the weather hadn’t grounded their peers or Amtrak.) Last week, ABC World News was also stiffed by Citi, which refused to answer questions about its latest round of outrageous credit card rate increases and instead e-mailed a statement blaming its customers for “not paying back their loans.” This from a bank that still owes taxpayers $25 billion of its $45 billion handout!

If Citi, among the most egregious of Wall Street reprobates, feels it can get away with business as usual, it’s because it fears no retribution. And it got more good news last week. Now that Chris Dodd is vacating the Senate, his chairmanship of the Banking Committee may fall next year to Tim Johnson of South Dakota, home to Citi’s credit card operation. Johnson was the only Senate Democrat to vote against Congress’s recent bill policing credit card abuses.

Though bad history shows every sign of repeating itself on Wall Street, it will take a near-miracle for Angelides to repeat Pecora’s triumph. Our zoo of financial skullduggery is far more complex, with many more moving pieces, than that of the 1920s. The new inquiry does have subpoena power, but its entire budget, a mere $8 million, doesn’t even match the lobbying expenditures for just three banks (Citi, Morgan Stanley, Bank of America) in the first nine months of 2009. The firms under scrutiny can pay for as many lawyers as they need to stall between now and Dec. 15, deadline day for the commission’s report.

More daunting still is the inquiry’s duty to reach into high places in the public sector as well as the private. The mystery of exactly what happened as TARP fell into place in the fateful fall of 2008 thickens by the day — especially the behind-closed-door machinations surrounding the government rescue of A.I.G. and its counterparties. Last week, a Republican congressman, Darrell Issa of California, released e-mail showing that officials at the New York Fed, then led by Timothy Geithner, pressured A.I.G. to delay disclosing to the S.E.C. and the public the details on the billions of bailout dollars it was funneling to its trading partners. In this backdoor rescue, taxpayers unknowingly awarded banks like Goldman 100 cents on the dollar for their bets on mortgage-backed securities.

Why was our money used to make these high-flying gamblers whole while ordinary Americans received no such beneficence? Nothing less than complete transparency will connect the dots. Among the big-name witnesses that the Angelides commission has called for next week is Goldman’s Blankfein. Geithner, Henry Paulson and Ben Bernanke should be next.

If they all skate away yet again by deflecting blame or mouthing pro forma mea culpas, it will be a sign that this inquiry, like so many other promises of reform since 9/15, is likely to leave Wall Street’s status quo largely intact. That’s the ticking-bomb scenario that truly imperils us all.

#96223 by Prevost82
Sun Jan 10, 2010 7:46 pm
enjoy your un-regulated free market ride. :D careful what you wish for :oops:

This will never change. Reform, if there is any, will be water down to a meaning-less piece of paper .... the politicians get to much money from corp USA. Would you bite the hand that feeds you.

Until the people of the US quit thinking that big business has all the answers and is the most efficient way of doing things. And thinking that the goverment can't manage a pop stand, nothing will change ... it's like the stockholm syndrome, where people express adulation and have positive feelings towards their captors (big business screwing them up the a*s) instead of demanding that their govement do a better job of managing the country right, looking out for the little guy. But down in the US that's whats called socialism, elsewhere in the world it's called a level playing field.

But that's your system ... it is what it is.

Ron

#96228 by CraigMaxim
Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:39 pm
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Socialism is actually a different animal.

But I do agree with much of what you say here Prevost.

However, business, particularly small businesses, are the largest employers here.

And when "unecessary" regulations... such as forced handicap access, forced insurance, and many other similar requirements, are FORCED onto small businesses, it breaks their backs, and takes away the additional profits they need, to be willing to RISK their extra capital on GROWTH. Small businesses, generally hope to GROW and become BIGGER businesses, thereby expanding the jobs they create, and the wealth, that THEN would allow them to provide handicap access, or insure their employees, or provide retirement plans, etc...

MANY, MANY small businesses (and I used to be a business owner, employing 10 to 15 people) are barely making it. Even some franchises, are so expensive to get into, that the owners MUST work, to make profit. Many of them end up simply owning a business that merely gives them a decent salary, and not much else.

Huge businesses, need strong regulation.

It is REFORM that is needed, not socialism, and taking other people's wealth and industriousness, merely to spread it around to others, WHO DO NOT sacrifice and make good life choices, to improve their own situations.

Having lived in Washington DC for 8 years, I have made good friends from all over the world. One of them, for example, was from El Salvador. We were BOTH busboys for a high-class restaurant. I would always try to get him to go to the clubs with me, to meet girls, have a few drinks, just have fun... He never would, though we were good friends.

I asked him what he did with dates, if he wouldn't spend money taking them to clubs or out to eat, and he literally smiled and said "I buy a cheap case of beer, and hang out at my apartment (where 2 other friends were roomates) but he slept on the couch there. So I asked what he did for privacy, in case... you know... And he said "I take them out to my car!"

I just laughed at the scene, but hey... he had no shortage of women after him, so what could I say?

I knew he was saving money for flight school, cause he wanted to be a pilot originally, but years later, we happened to both be paying parking tickets at the same time, and we exchanged numbers to renew our friendship.

But now, maybe 5 years or so later, HE WAS ready to go hang out at a club, go to a restaurant or whatever.

When I met him for lunch at a nice restaurant, some things had changed...

He drove up in a BMW.

After lunch he took me to see his most recent project... He had opened a small convenience store, catering to the Salvadorian population, and it turned out, he now flew back and forth to El Salvador to deal with suppliers, and find new ones, at least several times a year. His mother and brother worked for him, covering shifts running the store.

He had also gotten a Real Estate license.

And he sold his first house, to himself. Around a $250,000 dollar home, which now, would probably be more like $350,000 to half a million.

What had I done in those same 5 or 6 years?

I had graduated in life too, and was now... umm... a waiter in some nice restaurants.

I was "BORN" in America.

I grew up speaking English. I had a higher IQ than my friend, and I knew the country better than he did.

Goals. Sacrifice. Discipline to achieve those goals.

He had that.

I was too busy running the streets, buying the next electronic gadgets that came out, and having... uh... fun?

Only it didn't seem like so much fun, when I witnessed two people, and one with MORE opportunities (me) and another guy, who STARTED at the same job, but had taken different paths over those 5 to 6 years.

How long is that really?

5 to 6 years.

Was I really incapable of giving those up, in exchange for a BETTER LIFE that would have sustained me, possibly, for the REST OF MY LIFE, and then had the money and resources, to have had EVEN MORE FUN if I had wanted, like going to Europe when I felt like, or whatever... And been able to have it all?

It's not the fault of consumerism.

Nothing FORCED me to buy things I could have waited for.

My friend saw the opportunities this country offered. I guess I assumed it would be handed to me without the sacrifice or effort? Or maybe I was just too busy thinking I was "enjoying" myself, to even notice the time slipping away from me?

I agree with you about the neccessity of regulation.

But capitalism itself?

It works just fine, for those who choose to... "work -IT-"

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#96229 by CraigMaxim
Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:47 pm
But...

As the article likely rightly implies.

At the very top levels, of course, the system is rigged, and the lower classes DO end up footing the bill. This is wrong! However, in this country, there is little reason to be among the lesser classes, if one CHOOSES to get an education, sacrifice, and work your way up the ladder.

But this article PISSES ME OFF!

And I wonder, more and more, whether a new American Revolution is not necessary... not an armed one, but one of THOUGHT and HEART, and POLITICAL CHANGES.

It would require MASSES of Americans being UNITED to do it however.

I doubt we have the will.

We have grown too lazy.

It may not change until the country completely collapses.

And then what?

Much harder to dig out of that hole.

It may be inevitable though, the way we are going.

So much has to be changed though... the corruption is endemic... Bankers, Wall Street, Political pay offs... It literally would require a transformation that could be likened to a REVOLUTION.

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#96231 by Prevost82
Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:03 pm
However, business, particularly small businesses, are the largest employers here.

And when "unecessary" regulations... such as forced handicap access, forced insurance, and many other similar requirements, are FORCED onto small businesses, it breaks their backs, and takes away the additional profits they need, to be willing to RISK their extra capital on GROWTH. Small businesses, generally hope to GROW and become BIGGER businesses, thereby expanding the jobs they create, and the wealth, that THEN would allow them to provide handicap access, or insure their employees, or provide retirement plans, etc...


Agreed .... small businesses, are the largest employers ... and I might add everywhere.

There is a difference between unecessary regulations and
necessary regulations, especially when it comes to big business and wall street.

It would require MASSES of Americans being UNITED to do it however.

I doubt we have the will.

We have grown too lazy.

It may not change until the country completely collapses.

And then what?

Much harder to dig out of that hole.

It may be inevitable though, the way we are going.


As history shows us ... that's what usually happens ...

#96235 by CraigMaxim
Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:32 pm
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So I think we agree on the neccessity of regulating BIG BUSINESS.

Alot of these people stop being "human" at some point.

Dumping toxic waste into rivers.

Look at that peanut company we have here in America, that KNEW they had salmonella in their product, and guess what? Kept selling it. People died. That should be manslaughter charges, and prison time... seriously!

There is no conscience once a certain level is achieved.

It's rare, to find a company that honors the same values they may have started with, once they are at the level they can get politicians elected, and influence the country itself.

If someone deserved a place in hell, it is some of those people.

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#96242 by chipfryer
Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:16 pm
See you folks in the Laundromat nice and early please. I was there at 5.00 am sharp and the lights did not come on until 6.06 am.

Off to write a bar or perhaps two....



Maybe...?

#96258 by fisherman bob
Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:39 am
Conspiracies and conspiracy theories are kind of humorous to me. There's always somebody evil somewhere conspiring to do us in. Just as other people think that WE are conspiring to do THEM in. Maybe Stalin had it right when he said "no people, no problem" meaning that if you get rid of everybody conspiring to do you in BEFORE they do you in (no people) then everything will be okay. The problem is that there are always going to be people born who are going to try and do you in. That's just the nature of some people. Now if everybody was like me and just went fishing all the time we wouldn't have any problems...

#96262 by CraigMaxim
Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:09 am
fisherman bob wrote:Conspiracies and conspiracy theories are kind of humorous to me. There's always somebody evil somewhere conspiring to do us in.



Well, the title was a mis-statement of sorts. A purposeful one. It was meant to be sensationalistic to get attention.... It got mine, which is why I read it in the first place.

The author is not really saying that the bankers and wall street goons, are WANTING to destroy the country... just that they ARE destroying it.

They are profitting off the backs of the little guy.

This is not a theory. That is a FACT.

These people have their golden parachutes, and they DO PLOT to profit, even from crises the nation goes through. It is their own poor practices which often create the crises we go through in the first place, and then they profit from it anyway.

It is SICKENING and makes me VERY, VERY ANGRY!

As I said before... the amount of this bailout could have given EVERY MAN AND WOMAN in America, 18 years and older, ONE MILLION DOLLARS each, had the bailout went to "US" instead of the bankers and conglomerate businesses.

But what happened instead?

We pay the "bailout" with our taxes, to keep fat cats, fat. And the banks were supposed to use this money to make loans to small businesses and others. Did that happen? No. It is still very difficult to get loans, and yet they are paying their execs huge bonuses still, and some of these businesses are starting to pay the government bailout money back, ahead of schedule, and some of them are even starting to be profitable for the first time in 5 years or more. Sounds great... but... uhh... somebody got left out. They are still making loans difficult to get, and none of this has helped the people who need it most.

Reports out are saying that the job situation is STILL in crisis, and that the ballyhooing that things were getting better, where jobs were concerned, it turns out, is a mistake. What has happened is that many people are simply LEAVING the job market altogether. Early retirements, companies paying people to leave their jobs early.

But there is no JOB GROWTH.

Bankers and businesses have tricks. They sell loans to other countries, devalue our currency, and then buy them back sometimes a week later. It is a shell game... using the markets in dubious ways, to protect THEMSELVES, while the people suffer.

F*ck that, and f*ck them!

Americans need to EDUCATE themselves, get off the f*cking X-Box's and GET INVOLVED and UNITED with other Americans, and almost... START OVER!!!

Remember the success of the "Contract with America" masterminded by Newt Gingrich? Like it or not, it worked. Politicians binded together and PROMISED EN MASSE that "if elected" this list of policies would, at least, be brought up for a vote within a certain time period of being elected into office. It was a VERY successful strategy, and caused a Republican victory and majority in the Congress.

Let's reverse that, and make a "Contract -BY- Americans" whereby, we join together, and collect signatures and DEMAND that the pooliticians, no matter the party, vote on the policy changes we see fit, like campaign finance reform, etc... and DEMAND that elected officials vote FOR THESE POLICIES on -OUR- list, or they will be THROWN OUT OF OFFICE at the very next election.... PERIOD!

Let's take our country back!!!

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#96326 by ColorsFade
Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:26 pm
CraigMaxim wrote:
Americans need to EDUCATE themselves, get off the f*cking X-Box's and GET INVOLVED and UNITED with other Americans, and almost... START OVER!!!


You'll get a chance to do that soon enough Craig. Soon as we run out of oil...

#96338 by CraigMaxim
Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:21 pm
ColorsFade wrote:
CraigMaxim wrote:
Americans need to EDUCATE themselves, get off the f*cking X-Box's and GET INVOLVED and UNITED with other Americans, and almost... START OVER!!!


You'll get a chance to do that soon enough Craig. Soon as we run out of oil...



Which is going to happen faster than people realize, because as countries like China continue modernizing, with the world's largest population, at more than 1.3 BILLION people, they will be draining fossil fuels in the coming decades in dramatic ways, if their economy continues to expand.

And forget "running out" - It's enough to "run low" and see the prices skyrocket as a result, and go higher over time as we continue depleting resources further.

But this is not all about oil.

Wealth horded, and it's owners left unchecked, and using it in destructive ways against others, is a problem, no matter what the commodity is, or where the wealth is derived from.

Yes, the lack of cheap oil will affect our economy adversely, but it is not going to send us back to the stone age.

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#96341 by ColorsFade
Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:32 pm
CraigMaxim wrote:Yes, the lack of cheap oil will affect our economy adversely, but it is not going to send us back to the stone age.

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Sure it will. Think it through.


What happens when the oil is gone? No travel, for one, and no electricity, which means no internet, no indoor plumbing, no frozen food, no supermarkets...

We might not get thrown back to the Stone Age, but it will be pretty darn close. Once the oil is depleted everything changes. Money won't mean sh*t.

The only thing that will matter then is your own ability to survive. Valuable commodities will be people who know how to farm and live off the land, and folks who know how to shoot a weapon... It's going to be dark days.

#96345 by Prevost82
Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:00 pm
ColorsFade wrote:
CraigMaxim wrote:
Americans need to EDUCATE themselves, get off the f*cking X-Box's and GET INVOLVED and UNITED with other Americans, and almost... START OVER!!!


You'll get a chance to do that soon enough Craig. Soon as we run out of oil...


I guess Colors, you didn't take into account that Canada has 1.7 trillion and 2.5 trillion barrels of crude oil, and that's just Canada. So it will be a long wait.

#96353 by CraigMaxim
Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:06 pm
Colors,

We can only agree on this to a point.

Oil reserves are expected to last another 50 years, and possibly several decades more, as new oil fields are still being found (not major ones, but substantial) and new technologies for finding and extracting the oil are always being developed. 50 years may not seem very long, but think of where technology has gone in that same amount of time already... we hadn't even landed on the Moon yet, 50 years ago.

There also remains a great deal of fossil fuels in America that are currently off-limits due to environmental restrictions, but these laws can be altered, when necessary.

And because the government as well as the oil companies understand the problem, they are constantly developing new sources of energy and improving old ones.

Natural gas is in abundance here, as is coal, of which clean-coal technologies may make that even more desireable. Not to mention nuclear power, sidelined since the seventies, because of unfounded fears, after Three Mile Island occurred.

The political will, will come about, to utilize nuclear power again.

As to transportation:

Government regulations require higher and higher standards for fuel efficiency, which means vehicles will use far less fuel than before. Technologies are also in use, and being developed to remove oil from the vehicle equation altogether (new vehicles) using electric (which can be powered through nuclear) as well as hybrids, and newer technolgies like hydrogen and even compressed air. Yes, simple compressed air. There is a company in India already developing and marketing these vehicles, that run on... AIR.

This is not even considering mass transit, where, maybe the political will comes about to install mag-lev trains and the like.


Knowing the exact oil reserves is a guessing game.

Opec is notorously secretive about exactly how much oil they may have, and they may very well have MORE oil than we are aware of.

But after the two Gulf Wars, decreasing dependence on foreign oil is a TOP CAMPAIGN ISSUE and this will not change. EVERYONE in the civilized world, is now well aware, that these resrouces are limited, and we have likely surpassed peak world production. In America, WE DO have the political will, to ensure that the politicians are doing something.

The situation is serious, but not as dire as doomsayers would have us believe.

The end of cheap oil, may very well turn out to be the best thing that ever happened. Cleaner technologies developed, better gas mileage, stronger impetus to revert back to nuclear, as well as increasing development of clean coal, natural gas, hydro and wind. With the age of the internet, maybe people no longer need to commute as far as they have in the past? Perhaps rather than huge skyscrapers housing masses of employees that must commute for hours to get to work, maybe smaller, but more numerous buildings are developed in more rural areas, in effect creating more small cities, increasing construction and all that surounds that to support it, like restaurants, apartments, shopping complexes, etc...

I mean, we don't HAVE to congregate in masses, on small specs of real estate, because that is where the big buildings and jobs are. Maybe whole new economies spring up, by continuing the expansion into rural areas, where people travel 5 miles to work on average, and not 45 minutes or several hours, just sitting in traffic that doesn't seem to move, and half of our gas is just used to keep the air and radio on, while we sit in a car that moves slower than a bicycle.

Speaking of bicycles...


LOL

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