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#43147 by Paleopete
Sun Oct 05, 2008 11:14 am
Wooly Mammoth hunting...

Yeah somebody actually asked on Yahoo what he/she would need to go wooly mammoth hunting. I was looking up some info on a Ithica Hammerless double barrel I'm cleaning for a friend, since I've never tried to take one of those down, this link popped up on a Google search. Some pretty funny responses and some pretty sarcastic ones. Thought I'd drop it in here, maybe some of you guys could use a good laugh. Somebody out there actually doesn't know wooly mammoths are extinct???

Click Here

#43157 by philbymon
Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:04 pm
Thanks, Pete! Needed that laugh this morning.

"A lobotomy & a plastic spork."

LMAO!

#43161 by thesystemhasfailed
Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:55 pm
i like this one:

A shovel, a pickaxe and a lot of patience. When you do finally get one, it won't be a fresh kill, but carrion so old the bones are fossilized. With a bit of luck you might find one with organic material still attached though. Some very well-preserved woolly mammoths have been found in Asia, newly exposed to the elements by the melting permafrost.

Be prepared for the Russian government to jump in and take the mammoth away from you, once you do find one. Or the government of whatever country you find it in.

#43162 by fisherman bob
Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:07 pm
Jurasic Park may have been far-fetched, but it's probably not so far-fetched that cloning a wooly mammoth might be possible soon. In terms of evolution the wooly mammoth became extinct not that long ago, and I believe they have found carcasses pretty much intact. I would imagine there's plenty of clonable (is that a real word?) material available. Sometime in the future there might be a wooly mammoth hunting preserve. Later...

#43176 by Black57
Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:48 am
I like "first, you need a flux capacitor " :lol:

#43191 by Paleopete
Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:13 am
I believe they have found carcasses pretty much intact.


Completely intact and in almost perfect condition with undigested food in the stomach. It would have to be frozen pretty quick to do that, and it is generally believed some were frozen standing up. They also apparently didn't expect it, they would have been frozen running from it rather than standing there munching out.

That's one of the strange facts lending credence to a worlwide catastrophe in that time period. Something like a huge meteor hits, creates a dust cloud large enough to blanket all or most of the planet, the sun is blotted out, the temperature drops drastically...

This is one of the theories for the disappearance of the legendary continent of Atlantis. Hundreds of smaller impact craters off the coast of South Carolina, and for miles inland, two huge holes each over 2 miles across in the ocean a couple of hundred miles offshore, corresponding evidence of a drastic lowering of the sea level such as in south America where a seaport village has been discovered up a cliff around 50 feet if I remember correctly with no means of access or reason to be there unless the sea level was much higher...the theory is that an asteroid 6 miles in diameter or so broke into two huge chunks and hundreds of smaller peices from the heat of friction in the atmosphere, created a seismic wave capable of wiping out large cities, the foundations of the continent were disrupted and Atlantis sunk into the ocean literally overnight.

This comes from a very interesting book I read called "The Secret of Atlantis" by Otto Muck, with a lot of research done into several scientific fields, including geology, meteorology (weather), oceanography, archaelolgy and a number of references from ancient literature, of course including a full interpretation of Plato's account into English. This is also the most believable book I've read on Atlantis, and the one based almost entirely on scientific evidence, cross referenced from several different fields.

Something like this could easily create such an atmospheric disturbance the resulting dust cloud would cover the entire planet. No sun, no heat, think about how quick a small normal cloud causes the temperature to drop 10 degrees or more in summer...blot out the sun overnight and how cold would it be by morning? Remember also the sun would not be still warming the planet on the "day" side, which helps keep us from all freezing even more during the winter months.

So, the Wooly Mammoth carcasses that have been found have always interested me, until I read the explanations in this book and a couple of others on similar subjects, it seemed incredible that an animal larger than an elephant or buffalo could be frozen solid so fast even the undigested food in its stomach was virtually intact thousands of years later. A similar catastrophe is one fo the theories fro the extinction of dinosaurs, but millions of years ago instead of thousands.

Is it possible? Who knows, but it's a complete dumbass that thinks with all the thousands of meteors, comets and asteroids out there one doesn't hit the earth now and then, just grab a pair of binoculars and take a look at the moon sometime and you can easily see how many times it has been hit. The smallest crater you can see is around 5 miles in diameter...by astronomical measure, we're extremely close to the moon, there's no way the moon could be hit that many times and this planet escape collision entirely. I'll have to look it up, was the Wooly Mammoth wiped out at the same time as the disappearance of Atlantis, around 10,000 years ago? I believe that's one of the things referred to in the same book.

Hell of a way to respond to a simple comment, huh...

#43237 by gbheil
Tue Oct 07, 2008 12:53 am
458 Winchester magnum and a time machine?

#43240 by fisherman bob
Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:32 am
Actually the Earth has been hit MORE than the moon. Smaller meteors burn up in our atmosphere, but the larger ones make it to the Earth's surface. Erosion (wind and water) covers up the evidence of most of the impacts. The most recent big hit was in Russia in the early 1900's. It was in a very sparsely populated area. There are some early photgraphs of the aftermath and trees were all laying down in the same direction, much like the reaction of a very large explosion. Sooner or later a massive impact will happen again that will most assuredly wipe us out just as the dinosaurs were wiped out. Our solar system is a violent place and we're certainly not immune to those forces that have affected Earth for billions of years. But before we all kiss our collective asses goodbye we need to keep rock'in and not worry about it. That's one of the reasons why I"m on Bandmix. Later...

#43244 by Paleopete
Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:02 am
Yep, absolutely. Being bigger than the moon and having a stronger gravitational field I wouldn't doubt at all that this planet has been hit more times than the moon. I've read accounts of the Russian hit too, pretty interesting. I've also always wondered if that might be what Death Valley is. Impact crater?

#43291 by Andragon
Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:14 pm
The Earth as we know it and live upon it today, is half the planet it used to be.. (reminds me of "half the man I used to be" songs). Anyways, it was hit thousands of years ago (not millions), by a large object -often referred to as Planet X. And it was able to split the Earth in 2 halves, knocking out of its original orbit which still remains unknown. It was also the reason for the Asteroid Belt, which used to be a relatively smaller planet. It had a few other impacts as well.
So, in effect, we had 11 planets... interesting? Look into it sometime.

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