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#14099 by Craig Maxim
Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:18 am
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The plane crash that muted Southern rock


Just how high could Lynyrd Skynyrd have really flown?




By ROGER BULL, The Times-Union

Thirty years ago today, a rented plane took off from Greenville, S.C., headed for Baton Rouge, La. Just before dark, just before it reached the Louisiana line, the plane ran out of fuel and sank toward the Mississippi landscape below.

It first grazed the tops of the pine trees.

"It was like the sound of a billion baseball bats beating the side of the plane." Lynyrd Skynyrd bass player Leon Wilkeson described in an interview a decade ago.

The plane crashed down through the trees to the ground, breaking apart as it went. In the twisted, broken pieces of that 1947 Convair lay what was left of Jacksonville's greatest musical legacy.

Though there were 26 people on the plane, only six died that evening, Oct. 20, 1977. But killed along with the two pilots were three band members and the road manager for Lynyrd Skynyrd.

The long-haired, blue-collar guys had moved from playing the bars of Jacksonville's Westside to filling arenas, taking Southern rock far from their native South. But the dream ended, at least a good chunk of it, in those piney Mississippi woods with the deaths of singer and leader Ronnie Van Zant, guitarist Steve Gaines and his sister, backup vocalist Cassie Gaines.

Though the band would regroup a decade later, something vital had been lost.

"Ronnie was the anchor," said backup vocalist Leslie Hawkins-Johns, who broke her neck in three places in the crash. "He was the one who kept everything going, who kept everything in check."

Southern rock itself, so dominant that decade with Skynyrd, the Allman Brothers, Marshall Tucker and others, never recovered.

But back in 1977, Lynyrd Skynyrd was flying high, with no telling how much higher or farther it might have gone. But those in and around the band have some ideas.

Their dream come true

"It was like we had a dream," said guitarist Gary Rossington, who broke both arms, both legs and other bones in the crash. "Myself, Allen [Collins] and Ronnie, we had a dream to make it as big as we could. We saw The Ed Sullivan Show. We saw the British bands, and we just wanted to make it.

"And there we were, after seven, eight years of doing everything we had to do, playing clubs up and down the coast and not making any money. Playing high school dances.

"Now we were selling millions of albums, we were making money. It was a gas to sell out everywhere we played. It was a dream come true."

It was a band not only in its prime but rejuvenated musically with the addition of Steve Gaines. And the band known as much for tearing up hotel rooms as it was for tearing through Free Bird was cleaning up its rough and rowdy ways.

"We were trying to straighten out," Rossington said. "Everyone was having kids."

"It was a turning point," Hawkins-Johns said. "We had just booked Madison Square Garden. The band had a reputation for drinking and drugs but Ronnie said, 'No more.'

"Nothing was allowed in the dressing room other than champagne. [His daughter] Melody had just been born and Ronnie took a turn. It was like 'We're in this for the long haul, we need to straighten out and do it right.' "

Musically, they'd just put out Street Survivors.

"Steve Gaines really seemed to have fired them up creatively," said Atlanta writer Scott Freeman, who wrote, among other things, biographies of the Allman Brothers and Otis Redding. "At the time, I thought they were about to reach a new creative plateau. They'd just come out with their best album since the first or second studio album."

They spent a lot of time together talking on airplanes, and there was talk of changes.

"We talked about Johnny [Van Zant, Ronnie's younger brother] back in those days," Rossington said. "Ronnie wanted Johnny to sing. Ronnie would write the songs, manage us and he'd get into country. There was talk about doing solo albums. But those were all just maybes."

Ronnie's widow, Judy Van Zant, said she never heard anything about Ronnie turning the vocals over to Johnny, who was only 17 and had his own band. But she had heard the talk about country. Everyone agreed that Ronnie loved Merle Haggard. He'd included their version of Haggard's Honky Tonk Night Time Man on Street Survivors.

Hawkins-Johns said Ronnie was planning to make his country album the following spring, the same time that she and Cassie Gaines would record their own album, with Ronnie writing some of the songs and helping produce it.

"We were going to do it the spring before," she said, "but everything was so crazy. You couldn't get things done. That was the reason for the cleanup. So we were going to take a bunch of time off the next spring and do it."

Those plans also ended in those Mississippi woods. Two years after the crash, most of the surviving members formed the Rossington-Collins Band. In 1987, Skynyrd reformed with Johnny Van Zant singing lead vocals and continues to this day. And just like Ronnie once spoke of, Johnny and Donnie Van Zant [his brother and a former member of the band .38 Special] have recently moved into country music.

Last year, after what many considered far too long a wait, the band was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Still, there lingers the question about what might have been.

A legacy unfulfilled

"I'd have hoped we would have lived that for the next five, seven years, however long a group lasts," Rossington said. "Maybe we would have been like Aerosmith or the Stones, and just keep going. And Ronnie, he could have gone out on his own.

"But he loved Skynyrd. He loved being Ronnie Van Zant, being that guy."

And much of what the band would have been depended on what Ronnie might have been.

"I think he'd be regarded as one of the great American songwriters," Freeman said. "If you listen to his songs, the best ones, they all told stories. The Ballad of Curtis Loew, that's just a great song."

"I look at Bruce Springsteen as the same type of writer as Ronnie," Hawkins-Johns said, "real stories about real people He was just coming up. I think Skynyrd would have been like a Springsteen, doing the same thing."

But Judy Van Zant knows it's all just a guess.

"Who knows what would have happened?" she said. "I think Skynyrd's longevity has a lot to do with the plane crash. There's just been so much focus on it over the years. Look at Jim Morrison, look at Jimi Hendrix or Stevie Ray Vaughn. I don't know if the band would be popular or still be touring today. I think they probably would have moved on and done other things."

And life goes on for those who remain. Judy Van Zant lives in Neptune Beach, spends her time running the Freebird Live concert hall and playing with her two grandchildren, Melody's children.

Rossington lives on a dozen acres in North Georgia and still tours with Skynyrd.

"We'll do maybe 90-100 shows this year," he said. "We used to do 200-300."

On Nov. 2, they'll play at Gator Growl for the University of Florida's homecoming.

"We'll say hello, play a few songs and watch the game," Rossington said. "I love Tim Tebow."

And he, too, plays with his young grandchildren. Taking them fishing and driving them around his property in his golf cart.

"I've got two lives," he said. "Weekends, I go out and play rock star. Weekdays, I play granddad. You can't beat that."

And he has an idea what Ronnie, who would be three months shy of 60, might be doing. They talked about it often.

"It was his and my dream to one day own a fish camp and lay back, watch the guys come into fish, go out and catch bass anytime we wanted to. That was the way in this life to make it - own a little bitty fish camp.

"I think he'd be right there on the front porch, rocking with about 100 dogs, telling stories, still singing and playing."



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Where are they now?
Of those who were members when the plane crashed Oct. 20, 1977:

ARTIMUS PYLE Drummer: Lives in North Carolina and plays with the Artimus Pyle Band

CASSIE GAINES Backup vocals: Died in plane crash

BILLY POWELL Keyboards: Lives in Jacksonville, still playing with Skynyrd

LEON WILKESON Bass: Died 2001 of chronic liver and lung disease

ALLEN COLLINS Guitar: Died 1990 of pneumonia, following paralysis from a 1986 car crash

LESLIE HAWKINS Backup vocals: Lives in Middleburg, still dealing with health issues from plane crash but sings occasionally with tribute bands

GARY ROSSINGTON Guitarist: Lives in North Georgia, still playing with Skynyrd

RONNIE VAN ZANT Vocals: Died in plane crash

JO JO BILLINGSLEY Backup vocals: Now a minister in Alabama, left band two months before crash

STEVE GAINES Guitar: Died in plane crash[/img]

#14103 by The KIDD
Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:53 pm
Hey Craig,

Thanks for posting...sheesh....30yrs....Doesnt seem possible...We were covering 3 or 4 of their tunes at the time and heard the news while in a pizza hut after a gig...I always did remember the yr it happened of course but just now thought of it being 30 YRS...... :lol: ....I dont know though???Ya think Ronnie would have gone through all the changes the band would have had to naturally go through to be viable today....? t Later, the others re formed to keep that legacy going which is very much relevent today...They're existing today and accepted under that pretence...I would like to think that their style could have survived naturally unlike so many others in the same genre ..Greg and Dickie have though...hmmmmm...Would the Outlaws have fair as well as they did through the late 70's and early 80's had the crash not happened?....I still jam and perform that genre somewhat on a regular basis which keeps this memory fresh...Sadly ,I dont follow them much nowdays...I wish things were different...Too many changes... :cry: .....

John

#14109 by Starfish Scott
Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:05 pm
Crying shame, why couldn't they take Sonny + Cher instead?

#14119 by Irminsul
Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:42 pm
They got Sonny. Cher moves too fast.

#14127 by Irminsul
Sun Oct 21, 2007 9:19 pm
Darthsensei wrote:Sorry I was reading Tolken to my kid last night lol. Suffice it to say, I would have never known about this had you not posted... Thanks.

D


You read Tolken to your kid? You're a good dad!

#14129 by RhythmMan
Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:18 pm
I loved listening to Lynrd Skynrd, as a kid.

#14270 by Craig Maxim
Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:49 am
Captain Scott wrote:Crying shame, why couldn't they take Sonny + Cher instead?



Irminsul wrote:They got Sonny. Cher moves too fast.



LMAO!!!

And thanks John and others for commenting on this. I grew up in the same area where Skynyrd is from. Actually, alot of good bands came out of Jacksonville. There's something in the water there.... besides alligators. LOL

If you're interested, here is another interesting article, from a Skynyrd roadie that survived the crash....

http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/ ... xml&coll=2

Skynyrd roadie still a survivor 30 years after crash

Sunday, October 21, 2007
Michael Heaton
Plain Dealer Reporter

In the silent movie shot in 1976, Lynyrd Skynyrd members board a chartered plane. The camera moves from the cockpit to the tail as the band kicks back, stows luggage and relaxes with drinks and smokes. Backup singers mug for the camera. Lead singer Ronnie Van Zant organizes a card game.

"There, that chair right there," said Craig Reed, pointing to an aisle seat on the screen. "That's where I was when she went down."

Reed shot the Super 8 movie, since converted to videotape, playing in his Uniontown living room. It's been 30 years since the plane carrying Lynyrd Skynyrd band members crashed in a swamp near McComb, Miss. One of the most well-known rock 'n' roll disasters, the crash killed six people and badly injured Reed, a roadie.

After three decades, Reed, 56, can watch the video without any obvious emotion.

He was carried from the wreckage, but eventually healed and went back on the road with various incarnations of the band and still keeps in touch with survivors. “I was drunk that afternoon before we took off,” said Reed. “The plane had been backfiring and there was some concern. Ronnie [Van Zant] asked me if I was afraid to fly. I told him I wasn’t afraid of nothing. I think about how everything might have been different if I had given another answer.”

Lynyrd Skynyrd was at its peak on Oct. 20, 1977 when 26 members of the band and crew boarded a Convair 240 in Greenville, S.C., bound for Baton Rouge, La. The band had just released its fifth studio album, “Street Survivors.” The pioneers of Southern rock had five Top 40 hits, including the anthemic “Free Bird” and “Sweet Home Alabama,” both still in heavy rotation on classic rock radio stations. “We were sitting in the back when [head of security] Gene Odom and [drummer] Artemis Pyle told everybody to strap in,” said Reed.

“There was total silence on the plane. We were flying real low over a buried pipeline. I wasn’t concerned. We had just flown past the McComb airport eight miles back. The pilots were turning the plane around to go back there. The first sound was a loud TISH, the another TISH, TISH. We were hitting the tops of trees. Then there was a BOOM, BOOM and a couple more.”

Keyboard player Billy Powell would later describe the sound as “someone hitting the outside of the plane with hundreds of baseball bats.”

“Everything went black,” said Reed. “I woke up in a hospital two weeks later with all my ribs broken, a punctured lung, a broken arm and a concussion.” Lead singer Van Zant, guitarist Steve Gaines, vocalist Cassie Gaines, road manager Dean Kilpatrick and two pilots died in the crash. Everyone else was injured, many severely.

The National Transportation Safety Board found that the plane had run out of gas. Chance encounter, a good fit Reed was the third roadie hired by the band. In 1973, he and a girlfriend were checking into a hotel in Kent, when the desk clerk told him his room was right next to the rock band The Who. The clerk was misinformed. Lynyrd Skynyrd was opening for The Who on its Quadrophenia tour.

Reed had never heard of the Southern rockers and had no musical background, but hit it off with the band and they invited him to the show. A mechanic, he did a little troubleshooting backstage and the band invited him to Hollywood for the recording of their album, “Second Helping.” “I thought, ‘Why not?’ ” said Reed, who was recently divorced at the time. He would work for the band in various capacities for the next 32 years.

Reed said they were the hardest- working and hardest-partying band on the planet.

“They learned everything they knew about partying from The Who, so what do you expect? They felt they had to live up to that reputation.

“Ronnie was a taskmaster. They called him ‘The Fuhrer.’ We’d come off a long tour and it was three days home and then back in the studio to rehearse for the album. Then it was three days off and then back to rehearse for the tour. Then we were back on the road again,” he said.

The work ethic was surpassed only by sex and drugs and bar fights. Reed fit right in. He even got a nod in the song “What’s Your Name” after getting in a fight with a bar patron.

“Back at the hotel, Lord, we got such a mess. It seems one of the crew had a go with one of the guests, ah yes. Now the police say we can’t drink in the bar, what a shame. Won’t you come upstairs, girl, and have a drink of champagne.” Reed traveled the world with Lynyrd Skynyrd. Along the way, he became the band’s historian. He took hours of movies and collected mementos, everything from chewed-on guitar picks to petty cash receipts for grams of cocaine to signed guitars and engine- blown cars.

“Craig did it all for that band,” said Odom by phone from his home in Florida. “Just a great fella. If something needed to be fixed, he could do it. Tune a guitar, he could do it. From mixing drinks to working the soundboard, the band never had a better friend than Craig Reed for all those years.”

Lead singer Van Zant wanted to show his love for Reed monetarily, if only for bragging rights. “Just before the Oct. 20 flight, Ronnie came up to me and said he wanted to make me the first millionaire roadie,” recalled Reed. “I told him that the Allman Brothers had a roadie named Reddog who was already a millionaire. But I would be happy to be the second roadie who was a millionaire.”

Plane crash haunts survivors After the crash, band members Gary Rossington and Allen Collins formed the Rossington-Collins Band, which put out two albums and toured in the early 1980s. Reed went back out on the road with them and other short-lived bands. But the crash haunted the survivors and tragedy hounded the band.

After the crash, Collins’ wife died after a miscarriage. “He went on a death mission after that. He drank everything, took every drug, drove too fast — even his boats.”

Collins was paralyzed and his girlfriend killed in a drunkendriving accident in 1986. He died of pneumonia in 1990. “[Bassist] Leon Wilkeson just wore himself out until his body couldn’t take it anymore. People tried to get him to rehab, but he wasn’t interested. He said, ‘I didn’t go into rock ’n’ roll to be a choirboy. I love to drink and party and chase women.’ He always had a bottle of rum on one side of the bed and a bag of white stuff on the other until his liver gave out in 2001,” Reed said. “Artemis Pyle wrecked his big old Harley-Davidson, smashing up his leg so severely that after the operation, one was shorter than the other. His health was never as good again and you need to be a young, strong man to be the drummer for Lynyrd Skynyrd.”

In 1987, surviving members re-formed Lynyrd Skynyrd, adding original guitarist Ed King, who wrote “Sweet Home Alabama,” and Ronnie Van Zant’s little brother Johnny on lead vocals. Reed signed on, too. His house in Uniontown was a frequent stop for band members.

Reed retired from the road in 2005 and gave up drinking after contracting hepatitis C, but his association with the band continues. After the crash investigation, authorities asked him to remove the passengers’ property. He asked the families of the deceased if they wanted anything.

They said no. He collected boxes of clothes, suitcases and other personal effects. His house was already stuffed with band mementos. So he became the unofficial authenticator for all Lynyrd Skynyrd memorabilia and has a Web site, www.skynyrdsurvivor. com.

“For years, I just gave the stuff away. Now I put it on eBay,” Reed said. “What am I going to do with it all? Other people even ask me to sell their stuff on eBay because I can tell if signatures are real or if stuff is fabricated. I’m amazed by the demand. Even band members ask me to sell things on eBay. Billy Powell’s wife, Ellen, just gave me some of his boots to sell when they were at Blossom last summer. They give me the stuff because they love me and they know I can make some money from it.”

The money he makes pays his medical bills. Today, he lives in the small house he grew up in on eight acres an hour from Cleveland. A union stagehand, he builds guitars in his spare time. He and his wife of four years, Cathy, will be in Jacksonville, Fla., this weekend for a Skynyrd tribute celebration put on by Odom and other band alumni. He still has no fear of flying. “What are the chances I would be in two airplane crashes in my lifetime?” he said. “Whenever I’m on a flight with a little old lady who’s scared to fly, I always say, ‘Ma’am, you got a big old guardian angel sittin’ right next to you.’ ”

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