General Music Chat

Depends on the condition of your Rhoades. If it's like new condition then you should be able to get $800 to $1,000 for it on Ebay.

that much is true(except you cant spell RHOADS .... Randy would be pissed )
hit one...........

Back to Jackson... Fender now bought them out

this part is true
hit two..............

so any new Jackson custom shop that I've played is no better than the cheaper Jap models that you can buy. Even the "Original Jackson Tone" is now gone and they almost sound like any Ibanez (or "I been had") that's out there.

OK,,,now step away from the Crack pipe sonny.

Along with all the Strats, Ibanez, ESP's I've owned over the yaers,( and I've owned allot) I have and had custom and production Jacksons and I'll say this,,,, that in no way does a $4000+ Custom or $2000 USA play like the cheap $300 to $700 models unless the neck or setup is screwed or the player just sucks and cant tell the diffrence. Tone is subjective and most of it comes from the player,,but the choice of Woods, P'ups, Bridge, String gauge, Body design,,etc plays a large part of the tone of that instrument. You can buy the same model guitar and have one with a mahogany body and neck with an ebony fretboard and its gonna sound radically different from the basswood body maple neck and rosewood fretboard.

Justt because Fender bought them doesn't mean they walked in and fired everyone and replaced them with their people either,,the Production and Custom shop people are still working,,,, nothing has really changed there. .. helll...Mike Shannon(who built Randy's orig. guitars ) is still there building guitars,,,and they have even added Mike learn ( Innovator of the real flame paint and Artist who did Megadeth's The System Has Failed album cover, and custom bikes) doing the custom paint.


I like the 80's Jap Strats also,,, they played great,,as I liked the back shape of the necks,,and a good find if the neck is in good condition. i have one in the closet thats in pieces that i got in the 80's that i played, giged and beat the hell out of for years until it was unplayable, and loved that guitar.

gtZip .....Dude,,,Keep your Rhoads, spend 40/60 bucks and take it to a Real shop(not just your local GC) and get a REAL setup done to it. Not just a truss rod tweak and new strings and a clean fretboard and out the door that most places do and most people don't know any different.... .make sure it includes those things plus re-set the intonation (Then stick with the same gauge strings that it was set with) and most importantly a fret dress , as this is important cause they can lower the action to practically nothing and file then re-crown any high, worn, or offending frets and when you get it back it will feel like a brand new axe. I promise

then just save you cash up and later buy a nice used Jap strat and have the same setup done to it, and you wont be sorry.

If after all that you still feel the need to get rid of you Rhoads, hit me up And I'm sure we can work something out,,,,But I'd say keep it














MOSH ON
DAVE

I honestly have to say that my American Fender Stratocaster Deluxe is, in my opinion, waaay better than any of my old jap strats... again, in my opinion. I love the way this baby feels and sounds and this is coming from a die-hard Les Paul fanatic!

No Jackson, Charvel, Strat, or BC Rich ever felt as natural to me as my:



Kramer

moshwits - some nice stuff there... but I am tempted to revoke your right to mention tone (at all - ever) based on the presence of an acrylic guitar among your collection. I would agree with most of what you said tho...

capn scott:
1) silver badge fender emblem = 60's. gold is 70's. both can be either made in mexico, japan, or usa(custom shop and vintage)... in short... color of the fender label isn't exactly an effective measure of where the gtr is made.
I believe the "no skunk stripe" is a feature of the late 50's early 60's original that the 'made in japan reissues' emulate. So you will find no stripe on the 50s/60s reissues.

2) I'm not sure I agree that jap strats trump fender usa custom shop OR amer std... (especially when you compare the hardware they put on either one -specifically the trem... specifically the saddles on the trem... crap!) ...but I can live with your opinion.

I will say that buying a guitar should almost NEVER be based on pickups -since they are so easily replaced. I've never liked stock amer std pus, jap pus, or mexi pus...

again, everyone has a right to their opnion...

but compare them to fat50s/ texas specials/ semour antiquities/ rio grandes and I think you'll see why they can charge $200 for a set... I hear a world of difference (again, IMO).

long story short I'd try and find one that plays good and let the pickups be an afterthought. (IMO)
good luck

moshwits - some nice stuff there... but I am tempted to revoke your right to mention tone (at all - ever) based on the presence of an acrylic guitar among your collection. I would agree with most of what you said tho...

Look again bro ,,,, not acrylic,,,,broken mirror inlay

MOSHON
DAVE

I don't know anything for sure, just what I own personally.

Most of the MIJ's I see have silver emblems. Never seen a gold one yet. Not that it isn't, just never encountered one.

Those pictured pickups are the sheet, jr. Yeah they may be silver on the back, grey, whatever. Mine are green, but I am sure there is little to no difference.

As for a strat with a humbucker in it, I have only one question... "WHY"?

I own a mex 60th anniversary strat in silver, s-s-s, texas specials. "If I didn't buy it for 200$, I wouldn't have it." Texas specials or the tex mex pickups, are not what they are cracked up to be. (For what we do) Those MIJ stock PUs are at the top.

(if I need a humbucker, I use a Hamer V and I don't really even like it)

Ooh and you opened up a can of worms. Just played a US custom shop 60's variety, I think. The neck felt like junk and I didn't like it as much as the MIJ.

I hate to be a poster child for MIJ strats, but I can't beat it. The neck is unlike anything I ever played and the tones are other worldly. Yeah you have to mess with your volume control and your tone control extensively, but I can't find an equal tone, with a similar neck.

I am thinking I like the MIJ's over all, but in reality one must really find which strat really fits the player. I.E Which tone do I really want from my strat and then which neck style do I really like. Then you can find the corresponding model in a MIJ and voila, you have something special.

I know a lot of guys like the usa strats, but I am telling you there is something more about the MIJ ones. The older the better. The first time you sit with one for 5 minutes and play it, you will know what I mean.

Seems like the USA variety is over priced and the craftsmanship is simply not present.

moshwits - some nice stuff there... but I am tempted to revoke your right to mention tone (at all - ever) based on the presence of an acrylic guitar among your collection. I would agree with most of what you said tho...

Look again bro ,,,, not acrylic,,,,broken mirror inlay

MOSHON
DAVE

oops my bad... I just hate acrylic. I am so pissed that the new jem (dna) is acrylic. way to ruin a great legacy by lumping in a bunch of good sounding guitars with an acrylice pos.

capn:
"Texas specials or the tex mex " texas specials and tex mex's are two completely different things. tex mex's came ONLY on the jimmy vaughn "tex mex strat"... texas specials are custom shop and do not come stock an anything other than the srv strat and the billy gibbons lone star strat (as far as I know).

"The first time you sit with one for 5 minutes and play it, you will know what I mean. " -I used to work at a mgr and I've played hundreds of them in addition to hundreds of other strats...
granted... overall they aren't bad, but I think each guitar is it's own person... there are exceptional examples in any tier of the brand. But there are definite enhancements to the upper tiers (like one piece body, precision wound pickups, etc.) Clearly those differences don't mean as much to everyone.
cheers

OK,,,now step away from the Crack pipe sonny.

Along with all the Strats, Ibanez, ESP's I've owned over the yaers,( and I've owned allot) I have and had custom and production Jacksons and I'll say this,,,, that in no way does a $4000+ Custom or $2000 USA play like the cheap $300 to $700 models unless the neck or setup is screwed or the player just sucks and cant tell the diffrence. Tone is subjective and most of it comes from the player,,but the choice of Woods, P'ups, Bridge, String gauge, Body design,,etc plays a large part of the tone of that instrument. You can buy the same model guitar and have one with a mahogany body and neck with an ebony fretboard and its gonna sound radically different from the basswood body maple neck and rosewood fretboard.

Justt because Fender bought them doesn't mean they walked in and fired everyone and replaced them with their people either,,the Production and Custom shop people are still working,,,, nothing has really changed there. .. helll...Mike Shannon(who built Randy's orig. guitars ) is still there building guitars,,,and they have even added Mike learn ( Innovator of the real flame paint and Artist who did Megadeth's The System Has Failed album cover, and custom bikes) doing the custom paint.

Dude you need to chill out and read beyond to find out that what I meant wasn't what came out in that post. A couple posts later I corrected what I was actually meaning to say. Crack pipe? Not for me man. Mike is a personal friend of mine that I grew up with in Erie, PA. dude so no kidding that he's now one of the best air-brush dudes in the world and he's also a very down to earth dude and just generally nice as I myself am (unlike some others).

You have some VERY nice Jacksons there I must say. Much better collection than anyone that I've ever know to tell the truth. That's really cool how you did the wall setup with the swords as well. It's just pretty sad that everyone's a critic and likes to take shots at people they don't know because they're hiding behind their computers. I won't do that because I was only trying to give some advice that went wrong. Sorry.

Oh yeah...sorry about the spelling too, but at least the point got across. I guess I should have checked it before I posted it. I'll check it next time. Once again I could easily take hits and shots at you, but I'm better than that so I won't. We're all supposed to be here helping each other out without judgement against others (at least that was the point anyway) so let's just stick to that idea. Everyone's got an "opinion" just like an asshole so try to use the better of the two...

Edit: Oh yeah I've got a 1991 USA Custom Shop Jackson Dinky that I'll sell if you're interested. It has a satin finished alder body, birdseye maple neck and fretboard, reverse headstock, gold hardware, EMG 85 in the bridge, EMG SA in the neck, original floyd (gold), ect. If you're interested let me know and I'll either put up or send some pics of the axe...

Hey Dave long time no heart from. Just thought I would jump in and say hello. Hello..

7-yeear-old thread, he's probably not here any longer.