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If someone takes a weapon to a middle school, and opens fire on Children and teachers... Is that not a mentally disturbed person?

As I see it, Every last case in the entire universe of this life, the one before this life and the one after this life...of a school shooting... was unequivocally done by a mentally disturbed person. Can anybody really dispute this and call it 'non-fact'?

Anyone whom spills innocent blood is quite insane.
But that fact should not protect them from the consequences of their actions.

Somebody got a smiley with a rope around it's neck and it's tongue sticking out I can borrow ?

George

That sounds like a pretty sweet gat. I'll be shooting my pal's AR this weekend and may end up getting one myself - if that is still possible next time i have money! I used to hate them because they were so picky (I an AK kind of guy) but they have really gotten much better - the A3 out to be a real gem.

I cannot for the life of me see why any one should object to our outing this weekend but I know some do. We may accidently harm some hibernating chiggers but that is about that! And anybody who has every experienced a Georgia chigger should applaud!

Talbot

In my area AR platform rifles (used) are selling for three times their nominal value . . . ( in the neighborhood of 3K )
I think I'd wait out the silliness.
( I really want an M1A )

Anybody killing chiggers gets my vote.
Man I hate those guys.

Yod

Why should a felon who served his term, is off parole, be denied his God given rights?

the fact of it is, if he is not safe to be on the street with a gun, he ain't safe period! Why is he out?

I don't trust the mental health thing either - it's keeping a lot of vets from being able to have firearms will, with Obamacare kicking in, mean anyone dumb enough to see a mental health professional for any reason is apt to be screwed.

Yet Every single damn mass shooting has been perpetrated by guys with mental health problems sure, but the common denominator was psyoctropic drugs. Every single one. But are we looking at that? No.

Does Big Pharma, together with Big Agra and Defense Industry, own DC? Answer is yes.

Talbot

Mike,

I have met some few felons, who did hard time for some serious sh*t...The fact is , they don't really change on a certain level when they get out.... and that level is usually the reason they were tossed into that system in the first place.
You cant change the leopards on a spot.. As for god-given rights, America can be likened to that of a private club in the world of many clubs. To maintain membership, we gotta follow the rules. A felon breaks the rules, he keeps his god- given rights, but he will definitely lose the membership privileges. In America, its a god given right to possess a gun, but its a privilege to get a pass from legal harassment. Felons lose that pass when they break the rules of the club.

Yet Every single damn mass shooting has been perpetrated by guys with mental health problems sure, but the common denominator was psyoctropic drugs. Every single one. But are we looking at that? No.

That is an extremely broad and wholly inaccurate statement.

...Unless you can assume that anyone who shoots up a mall, school, post office, etc.. had to be mental to do it.. then you may have a point, but most of that would chalk up to temporary insanity, not ongoing mental health issues. The kids from columbine were considered "dorky", does that count as a mental problem?

You are correct that obamacare or whatever else we end up with will count nearly everyone as mental if we continue to allow the media to convince us that we're all mostly mental...

Most of these shootings are done by "normal" people who apparently have just snapped, sometimes we know why and other times we never really figure out the reason. A few people, including myself, have theorized that it's potentially a few different things all tied together, such as the immense stress put on youth today, economy, debt, personal crisis's, and anything else related to stress overall.

What is really killing the pro gun supporters is the outright hysteria you guys are emulating.. 60% of americans WANT there to be tighter regulation on background checks and waiting periods, as well as limits on clip size and return the ban on assault rifles.

If you guys could come to the table and speak rationally on the subject and let some basic common sense prevail, you would see that SOMETHING needs to change, and that nobody is going to take ALL your guns, but likely will take the guns capable of mass murder.

Let's inject some honesty into the discussion. You have a shotgun, a pistol with a 17-shot clip.. what typical home or personal defense situation calls for an assault rifle with a 30-round banana clip? Yeah, it's possible, but not bloodly likely, even in the worst of neighborhoods.. so that 1-in-a-million situation is worth 30+ mass murder school shootings annually? It's not logical. 60% of americans agree.

You guys are all about democracy, right? Well there's your democratic process, working as intended.

YOU sound just like Obama. Even he backed down because there are that many guns in America. One behind every tree.

Here is the honesty, the 2nd amendment is about personal defense,,,
PERSONAL DEFENSE against tyranny,terrorists, and all enemies of the constitution, be they domestic or foreign.

What the intelligent liberals across the world understand, that, the less knowing people of the liberal world understand,,, All power in even our modern century,, Is derived from the barrel of a weapon.

I love the way suddenly we are gun nuts, paranoid, killers.

If any one wants to stop the horrific violence that is happening in our country,, Then return us to a state of personal success, free from the frustrations of governmental interference,that is destroying the individual freedoms,independence, and self reliance.

Freedom comes with a high cost,,, Personal responsibility.

WHAT? No comment. I must be on Kramers self censorship list.