General Music Chat

More than half of the bill of rights have been either rendered ineffective or outright negated in various acts (patriot act, NDAA).

Where was your outrage at the patriot act?
Where is your outrage at the NDAA?

Where is your outrage that the first amendment has been repeatedly violated since the 19th century? Why can't I say the word "bomb" in an airport? Why are the "tasteless" police telling me what can and cannot be covered under the first amendment?

I see the 2nd amendment the same way-
Why can't I own nuclear "arms"?

It's all about balance, right? The founders had no way of knowing we would invent bombs capable of killing millions in seconds no more than they could possibly have known we would have guns capable of mowing down crowds in seconds.

Balance.

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

No law shall abridge my 2nd amendment. The constitution and the bill of rights belong to the people, not those who are temporary help elected to protect our (Citizens) rights.

Play poker? A choked down 20ga pump shotgun triumphs a guy kicking in my door with an AR. What would you prefer if someone broke into your house? A Glock or a shotgun?

If you are honestly THAT paranoid of 'home invasion', might I suggest two well-trained rotweilers? They are more likely than a smith & wesson sign on your lawn to divert criminals away, they are safer for your family, and ultimately safer to mine, as you can't go to a shopping mall and mow down dozens in seconds with a pair of dogs.

(edit) and let's add in the fact that even if your 'home defense' gun was within arms reach, you probably would not have the time to access or fire it before being gunned down anyways. Notice that the ONLY people who seem to be prepared for that kind of situation are very hardened criminals who expect the cops to break down the door at any moment, and even then do they rarely survive, much less succeed in avoiding capture.

More than half of the bill of rights have been either rendered ineffective or outright negated in various acts (patriot act, NDAA).

Where was your outrage at the patriot act?
Where is your outrage at the NDAA?

Where is your outrage that the first amendment has been repeatedly violated since the 19th century? Why can't I say the word "bomb" in an airport? Why are the "tasteless" police telling me what can and cannot be covered under the first amendment?

I see the 2nd amendment the same way-
Why can't I own nuclear "arms"?

It's all about balance, right? The founders had no way of knowing we would invent bombs capable of killing millions in seconds no more than they could possibly have known we would have guns capable of mowing down crowds in seconds.

Balance.

And so you believe that since some of our rights have been illegally taken by temporary politicians that the rest shall also be taken? Get your head out of your ass. They won't stop with guns, the won't stop when they say your personal transportation is illegal because it isn't an hybrid . They won't stop when they monitor your energy usage to heat and cool your home and tell you that you are too warm or too cool. They already tell you what kind of light bulbs to use, how big your drink can be, what your kids can eat at school, and they want your to follow the same rules at home, they are trying to control what you watch, what you buy, and everything else that you have the freedom to do. They will keep it up until you are a slave to them in every area of your life.

How stupid are you that you can not see what is happening in front of your eyes? And you argue that more rights from law abiding citizens should be taken from them? Your thinky thing is severely out of whack.

Do Rotwilers wear bullet proof vests? I live in a M13 neighborhood. Google that you moron. People like you give retards a bad name. I am not concerned with the bad guys. I am afraid of the government that you support and the tyranny that it thrives on.

Within arms reach?
I sleep with my belt on, pistol in holster.

Within arms reach?
I sleep with my belt on, pistol in holster.

And I for one applaud your freedom to do that.


Kramer,

Want to stop gun violence? Then have all the criminals register their weapons instead of taking away the rights of the good guys.

How stupid are you

Your thinky thing is severely out of whack.

Google that you moron.

People like you give retards a bad name.

you support and the tyranny that it thrives on.

Let's see, I saw blah blah blah PERSONAL INSULT, blah blah, I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG, blah blah I HAVE ZERO RESPECT FOR MENTALLY HANDICAPPED PEOPLE + PERSONAL INSULT, blah blah I DRAW CONCLUSIONS AND THEY ARE RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG and/or YOU'RE A COMMIE.

Yeah, GREAT thought-provoking response.

all the guns I bought are from public auctions, and all the auctioneers did was hand the gun)s over to me after I paid at the desk.. will I have to voluntarily get these guns registered like you would have to do at a retail store like a wallyworld sporting goods dept.?

all the guns I bought are from public auctions, and all the auctioneers did was hand the gun)s over to me after I paid at the desk.. will I have to voluntarily get these guns registered like you would have to do at a retail store like a wallyworld sporting goods dept.?

Noooo you won't..lol

Thanks for shopping smart, shop "S-Mart" !!!

How stupid are you

Your thinky thing is severely out of whack.

Google that you moron.

People like you give retards a bad name.

you support and the tyranny that it thrives on.

Let's see, I saw blah blah blah PERSONAL INSULT, blah blah, I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG, blah blah I HAVE ZERO RESPECT FOR MENTALLY HANDICAPPED PEOPLE + PERSONAL INSULT, blah blah I DRAW CONCLUSIONS AND THEY ARE RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG and/or YOU'RE A COMMIE.

Yeah, GREAT thought-provoking response.

yep, welcome to bandmix kramer.

How stupid are you

Your thinky thing is severely out of whack.

Google that you moron.

People like you give retards a bad name.

you support and the tyranny that it thrives on.

Let's see, I saw blah blah blah PERSONAL INSULT, blah blah, I'M RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG, blah blah I HAVE ZERO RESPECT FOR MENTALLY HANDICAPPED PEOPLE + PERSONAL INSULT, blah blah I DRAW CONCLUSIONS AND THEY ARE RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG and/or YOU'RE A COMMIE.

Yeah, GREAT thought-provoking response.

yep, welcome to bandmix kramer.

Planet, you finally getting the idea, huh? SSDD

Don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff. lol

Planet, you finally getting the idea, huh? SSDD

Don't sweat the petty stuff and don't pet the sweaty stuff. lol

oh, it was pretty easy to scope that crap out straight from the gate. there are the folks on here ya can disagree w and still it remains civil....and then there's those who are so small they can't disagree w someone w/o the name calling.

as the youngsters love to say....."whatever".

the name calling could be chalked up to envy or jealousy too.. when a person lashes out there is generally some deep emotioal disorder residing within them.. my 2 cents..

Danes a narc.

Why HEY there, Lynard....come on in the coffee is still warm..


I don't think Dane is a narc, he's a trouble maker.. LOL

But that's ok, at least he won't carve up your latest piece of music because he wants a female vocalist with 3-4 octaves..

(I told ya I'd call him, Dane, you mushroom headed dingdong)

Now for the rest of you, beware.."Glambert" is next on my call list..
(CUE LAUGHTER)
(mean look at DANE) lol You faq..

"Lynard" wants his royalties.. (tee-hee-hee) lol

Mr. Kramer

"Free State..." meant something totally different in those days. Even as recently as the 70s we always spoke of 'these United States.'

The founders most emphatically did NOT worship the State as we have come to know and dread it. The 2nd was codifying what men already new - that we have a God given right to self defense.

the militia part was based on the premise that every man jack was a member of the state militia and ready to defend his state. Some states even had laws requiring you to own military weapons.

I've studied history many years and the most important thing I've learned is that it is all a moment in time. CS Lewis wrote that if you want to undertand the 'fathers of the church,' read what THEY wrote - not what someobody else wrote about what they wrote.

To understand the founders - read their writings. Madison, Jefferson and Washington are good starting places - and you may believe that they believed in men - not governments.

cheers
Talbot