General Music Chat

Went to see a friend's band last night. He was playing a goldtop Les Paul into a Marshall halfstack! His tone was to die for. You could hear clarity in every note of EVERY distorted chord. I talked to him for a minute as I hadn't seen him in years. Sure wished I would have asked him about his tone!

I knew a guy with a les...I asked him If I could borrow it and he said I was not to take that tone with him

Glenn I know you like Mesa's check out that new mini rec head, it goes down to around 15 watts.

I guess Im wierd cause I can get a really good tone out of my Triple at a reasonable volume level. I did change all the tubes up, but it works for me at most any volume, but there is a point where it really comes alive.

Mike, A Plexi is a classic amp, but man those things have to be cranked to get to the goodness.

I have my ole Sunn Model T and its a similiar amp, but its just too loud.

but its just too loud.

funny thing for a guitarist to say

You just need something like the Hot Plate Attenuator to tame these beasts. Crank the amp vol. up and use the attenuator for the speaker volume. No noticeable tone changes except maybe on the lowest settings. My Mesa 50 Caliber starts cracking drywall past 3 on the volume.

You just need something like the Hot Plate Attenuator to tame these beasts. Crank the amp vol. up and use the attenuator for the speaker volume. No noticeable tone changes except maybe on the lowest settings. My Mesa 50 Caliber starts cracking drywall past 3 on the volume.

I guess I have to check out some of these "SMALL" amps. I'm looking for a 20lb amp that will kick butt.

Mike, You kick but anyway,,, Keep it up! thanks for sharing.

Glenn I know you like Mesa's check out that new mini rec head, it goes down to around 15 watts.

I guess Im wierd cause I can get a really good tone out of my Triple at a reasonable volume level. I did change all the tubes up, but it works for me at most any volume, but there is a point where it really comes alive.

Thanks John,, I'm just looking for something I can take out to an open jam but still kick out some sound.

Damn my mesa was to loud , un miced in an open air concert on 50 watts.

Oh Well.... If it's too loud,,,, you are just to old.....

On the loudness issue I was always one of the loudest guitar players in my neck of the woods, cost me some gigs, when I would unload my 6x10 cab and 4x12 with my Sunn Model T, so no one here or anywhere can tell me I dont know about loud or am too old, I just have learned to respect my bandmates and my audience and not inflict the sound of crikets into thier craniums anymore.

Glenn Mesa makes many smaller combos, I was fortunate to pick up a little 20 watter some years ago, its a Subway Rocket, and it wieghs around 25 lbs, it sounds huge, miced or un miced. You might look into some of the smaller Mesa amps, they dont make the Subway anymore.

I like the sound of the Line6 SpiderJam,
it gets alot of sounds and then some.

When recording I've been trying to record the
guitar sound clean, and add tone in the recording
program, I guess that's what you call it, actually
I'm trying to do this with all instruments.

Lynard I have the Line 6 POD PRO, and when you record with it you can record a striaght guitar track with no preamp to a channel, then if you dont like your guitar tone you can send that signal back thru the POD and change the amp. Its called reamping. I havent tryed it cause when I record Im in such a hurry that I just ussually use what ever tone or amp or preamp I have hooked up.

JW I love Line6 stuff, but I offered a guy
on craigslist $400 for a Triple Rectifier, he said
he wanted to wait a couple of days. It sounded
ferocious, I'm going to find another to play this week,
maybe Guitar Center will have one?

We're trying to step our recording up to
ProTools 10, but I'm not a computer person,
and my old lady ain't a musician. There is a hell
of alot that can be done with that program.

Lynard I have the Line 6 POD PRO, and when you record with it you can record a striaght guitar track with no preamp to a channel, then if you dont like your guitar tone you can send that signal back thru the POD and change the amp. Its called reamping. I havent tryed it cause when I record Im in such a hurry that I just ussually use what ever tone or amp or preamp I have hooked up.

John, by 'no preamp to a channel" do you mean plugging the guitar in directly to the console and then mixing later?

Paper mine has a line out that is just pure guitar along with whatever preamp you are using, it sends a seperate unaffected channel.

I used to use my preamp live, I would run into the POD PRO and then send a signal from it to the console, then I would run the unnafected line to my Mesa and mic it, it got a little too thick at times, so I just went back simple in my live setup instead of doing all of that.

The cool thing about reamping is say you are recording a song, doing a basic rythym track and have the tone set like you think you want, then later if you layer a bunch of stuff, you think man that track should be cleaner, if you have the clean unaffected signal on a seperate track , you can just run that track back thru the POD PRO and change the amp you were using.

I hope this makes sense to you.

Ive never reamped, but we thought about it recording one time, the POD PRO has stereo outs, so we sent them to two channels, plus another signal from the preamp that wasnt running thru the preamp, just a dead guitar track, we could have sent that signal back thru the POD and changed the amp settings, without me haveing to play it again. Im kind of a feel player, when Im in the groove for recording and get a certain swing to my playing, I may not be able to replicate that same thing later, so for me this would be a great tool, provided you have plenty of spare tracks to put stuff on.

Its a cool trick in my mind, there is no telling how many big time recordings that have used this trick.

Paper mine has a line out that is just pure guitar along with whatever preamp you are using, it sends a seperate unaffected channel.

I used to use my preamp live, I would run into the POD PRO and then send a signal from it to the console, then I would run the unnafected line to my Mesa and mic it, it got a little too thick at times, so I just went back simple in my live setup instead of doing all of that.

The cool thing about reamping is say you are recording a song, doing a basic rythym track and have the tone set like you think you want, then later if you layer a bunch of stuff, you think man that track should be cleaner, if you have the clean unaffected signal on a seperate track , you can just run that track back thru the POD PRO and change the amp you were using.

I hope this makes sense to you.

Ive never reamped, but we thought about it recording one time, the POD PRO has stereo outs, so we sent them to two channels, plus another signal from the preamp that wasnt running thru the preamp, just a dead guitar track, we could have sent that signal back thru the POD and changed the amp settings, without me haveing to play it again. Im kind of a feel player, when Im in the groove for recording and get a certain swing to my playing, I may not be able to replicate that same thing later, so for me this would be a great tool, provided you have plenty of spare tracks to put stuff on.

Its a cool trick in my mind, there is no telling how many big time recordings that have used this trick.

Thanks John, it Makes sense...