General Music Chat

This was in the Waco Tribune Herald, Waco, TX Nov 18, 2010

Put me in charge . . .

Put me in charge of food stamps. I'd get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for
Ding Dongs or Ho Ho's, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.

Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I'd do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we'll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke or get
tats and piercings, then get a job.

Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your "home" will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be
inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.

In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a "government" job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo
and speakers and put that money toward the “common good..”

Before you write that I've violated someone's rights, realize that all of the above is voluntary.. If you want our money, accept our rules.. Before you say that this would be "demeaning" and ruin their "self esteem," consider that it wasn't that long ago that taking someone else's money for
doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.

If we are expected to pay for other people's mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.

AND While you are on Gov’t subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov’t welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job.

Amen ...

It's insane that people on govt assistance can vote. They can vote themselves other people's money. Politicians exploit that. I've heard commentators say, "Americans want a balanced budget but they want all the govt goodies too..."

That is nonsense. That only applies to recipients of govt largess. Us saps who paid into social sec don't want drug addicts getting our retirement funds because they are too wasted to work - yet they are. Geese..

Bringing in illegals when there are people on welfare who could do their work. I don't get it. When I was broke I worked in the orchards. What's the big deal?

Corporations now use the govt, a willing co-conspiritor, to gain leverage against other companies and against us. Why should stopping this nonsense impact people on medicaid?

Pay off the people you owe. Nothing for immigrants, legal or illegal. Not from public funds. No pensions or lifetime medical for politicians. They are to be public servants, not parasites. Nothing for unions, nothing for anything that isn't allowed by the US constitution.

Is that too much to ask?

Talbot

Mike

Problem is the parasites vote, and now out number the ones who are actually footing the bill.

The evil rich people are not paying their share?

Top %2 pays %38 off all publicly collected taxation.

Top %20 pays % 70

Bottom % 51 ... don't pay sh*t.

Unscrupulous unconstitutional government is the problem.

I fear we have gone to that point the our forefathers mentioned to which only blood will renew right to the republic.

And I pray daily ... I am wrong.

This article assumes that most or all of the people receiving relief don't deserve it. If it weren't for Medicaid my son would be dead literally. People who see him on the street are scared to death of him. They have no idea he's severely handicapped. When you see somebody dressed a certain way don't assume they do not deserve help. My brother in law has an advanced degree in engineering. He spent his entire career in the microchip industry. If you saw him on the street you would judge that he doesn't need government handouts. YOU'D BE WRONG. The entire industry he was in doesn't exist in this country. Without aid he'd be on the street right now. While there may be many, perhaps even a majority of people who "DON'T DESERVE" it, while there may be many people who mis-spend their handouts, there are many people THROUGH NO FAULT of their own would be DEAD without it. Don't prejudge people, understand that the idea of helping people less fortunate is noble and that the idea is good but the WAY IT IS RUN is bad...

Sad fact is Bob your son and deserving people like him are in the minority of entitlement.

Most don't deserve it ... and those whom are getting filthy rich administering the program ... sure as hell don't deserve it.

My experience as an RN is that most of the people on disability could and should work to support themselves.

I'm more " disabled " than a large percentage of those whom claim it.
And I have two jobs.

And unemployment ??
No one should receive one red cent more than they have paid in ... period.

"A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Ghandi

This article assumes that most or all of the people receiving relief don't deserve it. If it weren't for Medicaid my son would be dead literally. People who see him on the street are scared to death of him. They have no idea he's severely handicapped. When you see somebody dressed a certain way don't assume they do not deserve help. My brother in law has an advanced degree in engineering. He spent his entire career in the microchip industry. If you saw him on the street you would judge that he doesn't need government handouts. YOU'D BE WRONG. The entire industry he was in doesn't exist in this country. Without aid he'd be on the street right now. While there may be many, perhaps even a majority of people who "DON'T DESERVE" it, while there may be many people who mis-spend their handouts, there are many people THROUGH NO FAULT of their own would be DEAD without it. Don't prejudge people, understand that the idea of helping people less fortunate is noble and that the idea is good but the WAY IT IS RUN is bad...

Ok BOB, Clearly were not talking about the people who really need the help (which is why these programs were put in place) . Were talking about scammers and a multitude of freeloaders who take your son's entitlements and run them into the ground. You wanna talk about medicaid?

A few years ago, I worked closely with CMS directors, throughout the United States and I have first-hand knowledge of the fraud, waste and abuse cases spanning from Florida to Los Angeles .
You should see the doctors that get investigated ,who look like a deer in the headlights when you produce a list of patients under his name, and he swears he doesn't know a single one of them...

When and if your son has to go to a hospital, and an Admin comes to you about billing information, take special note of what is being charged, and then ask the "poor" guy next to you what amount they are billing him?

Ever hear of Anchor-Babies? That's what babies are called in El Paso, when a pregnant Mexican Citizen mother dashes across the border and has her Baby on the U.S. side. And to rub it in your face, the hospital that supports this will let her off with no billing, and then will charge "white American" Patients a 200% Mark up on their already exorbitant hospital fees, to cover the costs of the freebie they handed to that Mexican mother.

So maybe, BOB, you 'll understand why some of us are so outraged that we're actually willing to kill these programs all together and start fresh.

If your son is up against discrimination...Don't blame me or guys like me...Instead, blame the ass-holes that ran your son's support systems into the ground.

Finally, Who says that ANY support has gotta come from a government program? Why would I put my earnings into the hands if grossly incompetent players... when really, I should just send your family the money, directly?

Mark my words bro...its gonna come to that soon...These Govt programs are slated for death, and a major reset button is gonna get pressed soon.

There's no doubt that abuse is rampant in the system. The idea of eliminating the system is wrong. The idea of improving the current system is right. Hold people accountable. Those people who abuse it should be ordered to pay restitution and doctors who rip it off should lose their license FOR LIFE. Run it efficiently, make people accountable, do not let non-citizens benefit by it, etc. There's a lot we can do WITHOUT repealing anything. There's a lot we can do to make this work but our leaders (boobs) have no idea what to do to make it work.

There's no doubt that abuse is rampant in the system. The idea of eliminating the system is wrong. The idea of improving the current system is right. Hold people accountable. Those people who abuse it should be ordered to pay restitution and doctors who rip it off should lose their license FOR LIFE. Run it efficiently, make people accountable, do not let non-citizens benefit by it, etc. There's a lot we can do WITHOUT repealing anything. There's a lot we can do to make this work but our leaders (boobs) have no idea what to do to make it work.

This is the key that is missing IMO.
To hold accountable both the givers and the takers.

Good post Bob.
With the exception that the ability to abuse is intentionally built into the system by federal legislation.

And why I feel it is of dire importance to wrest this unconstitutional behavior away from the feds and give it ( or force it ) back into the state level where it belongs in the first place.