General Music Chat

Those of you who have read my posts probably get the impression that I'm not exactly the most "positive" person in the world. And so this will be my last "negative" post. My sis' got me a year's subscrition to GW magazine last Christmas, and it was the first time in decades I had gone back to reading these rock n' roll "fanzines". First thing I read was Soundgarden's return to their place in the pantheon of Grunge, despite the fact that Chris Cornell's second guitarist had not faired so well in the aging department. He looked old and grey but Chris looked pretty good. And apparently they played incredibly at select shows around LA. But they are waxing nostalgic as far as I'm concerned and the Grunge scene is all but dead, replaced by a saturated market of Screamo Speed Thrash Metal that will not be relevant 5 years from now, so to all you guys who flash your latest custom 8 strings and $5,000 tube rectifiers on the inside covers of this decent mag, enjoy your nonsensical genre while you can and hold up your armory like so much USMC warfare machines c'os your days are numbered. Do you HONESTLY think the future of rock is a slew of CD covers that look like exorcisms gone horribly wrong? Fuk no, and you'll find out the hard way when the record industry has made enough money of your Doom & Gloom Wall Of Noise to pull to plug. I can't wait. I can't wait for a return to REAL METAL, the kind you punk asses likely grew up listening to but for some inexplicable reason decided to pump it full of the highest octane fuel you could get your hands on. It ain't rock n' roll, and it ain't metal. Its the NEW WAVE of the NEW MILLENEUM and it will die an ugly death, leaving a bunch of hotshot guitar players who actually couldn't keep up with the real deal like Allan Holdsworth, Mahivishnu Maglaughlin, or Al De Meola, for starters. Those guys could run cirles around ANY METAL SPEEDO SHREDDER and still have enough to kill a few more, if they dare stick around. I am a guitar player, and I could have spent days practicing scales and all that so I could go out there on stage and scare a few up and comers away, but the power of a great songs still beats the living crap out of any of your senseless "noodling". 20 years from now, you'll all be forgotten. Jimi Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Stevie Ray etc. WILL BE REMEMBERED. Stick that tube up yer butts and smoke it.

Those of you who have read my posts probably get the impression that I'm not exactly the most "positive" person in the world. And so this will be my last "negative" post. My sis' got me a year's subscrition to GW magazine last Christmas, and it was the first time in decades I had gone back to reading these rock n' roll "fanzines". First thing I read was Soundgarden's return to their place in the pantheon of Grunge, despite the fact that Chris Cornell's second guitarist had not faired so well in the aging department. He looked old and grey but Chris looked pretty good. And apparently they played incredibly at select shows around LA. But they are waxing nostalgic as far as I'm concerned and the Grunge scene is all but dead, replaced by a saturated market of Screamo Speed Thrash Metal that will not be relevant 5 years from now, so to all you guys who flash your latest custom 8 strings and $5,000 tube rectifiers on the inside covers of this decent mag, enjoy your nonsensical genre while you can and hold up your armory like so much USMC warfare machines c'os your days are numbered. Do you HONESTLY think the future of rock is a slew of CD covers that look like exorcisms gone horribly wrong? Fuk no, and you'll find out the hard way when the record industry has made enough money of your Doom & Gloom Wall Of Noise to pull to plug. I can't wait. I can't wait for a return to REAL METAL, the kind you punk asses likely grew up listening to but for some inexplicable reason decided to pump it full of the highest octane fuel you could get your hands on. It ain't rock n' roll, and it ain't metal. Its the NEW WAVE of the NEW MILLENEUM and it will die an ugly death, leaving a bunch of hotshot guitar players who actually couldn't keep up with the real deal like Allan Holdsworth, Mahivishnu Maglaughlin, or Al De Meola, for starters. Those guys could run cirles around ANY METAL SPEEDO SHREDDER and still have enough to kill a few more, if they dare stick around. I am a guitar player, and I could have spent days practicing scales and all that so I could go out there on stage and scare a few up and comers away, but the power of a great songs still beats the living crap out of any of your senseless "noodling". 20 years from now, you'll all be forgotten. Jimi Hendrix, Page, Clapton, Stevie Ray etc. WILL BE REMEMBERED. Stick that tube up yer butts and smoke it.

Ha ha hA! HAAAHHHHHHHHHHH! Dude you nailed IT! Finally, somebody with a nut-sack to call it like it is... Now, I'm NOT a metal afficienado by any stretch,... but there was a day when I might have taken that path, years ago...Until ..Just like the free agents of baseball , who screwed that game up, we started to see over indulgant promoters trying to cash in any way any how... ,We suddenly saw the metal genre turning south...ultimatly evolved to what you have described. I Was a Black Sabbath Fan back then, In my opinion, for whatever reasons, they got too caught up in the Budget agenda, ...Ozzie bounced out, the rest was history. Then there was the wave of faceless bands, which followed . They weren't bad at all but...they were ALL about technique and not a stitch of heart in it... (I became a Zappa fan, because he could rip out some mad riffs and actually take you in a direction with it) Even Sonny Carl Black (Zappa's original drummer, Whom I had the distinct pleasure of drinking lots of beers with) had complained about the L.A. scene, morphing into spiritless battle of dexterities. (Mahavishnu Orchestra kicked some serious ass in that dept... and they were one of the few... to again...take the mechanics to meaningful resolve) Theres' a Tube of Stevie Ray Vaughn (another man I had the privilege to drink lots of beers with...long before he made it) where he plays Hendrix "Voodoo Child" , As a tribute, and really I think for added humour, he runs through the Hendrix licks ; one handed, pure hammering attacks and sustains... while his other hand falls limply to his side... That , my friend is mechanics at its height, spirit , direction and awsome vib at its height...I mean it carried everything that the shredders would attempt AND it resonates with anyone who isn't practically brain dead or void of emotion
Simply put...That's the sh*t that the world remembers for centuries... and no "noodler" can touch that!

toxic

You occasionally say something I'd like to thing in but bro - I need paragraphs. Can't read your stuff.

Talbot

Paperdog and Talbot, good to get overall "positive" feedback from you both. I know Talbot, I tend to skip paragraphs. Figure if I'm going to write anything of substance it only takes a press of the entry key to break my often cryptic writings in managable chunks, so I do apologize for run on sentences. I think its c'os I get so caught up in what I'm trying to express that I forget the "readablility" of my meanderings.

See, I was born at a time when their were literally (not to age myself, I'm not that "up there", but just enough to recall when London, England was home to but a few pioneering guitarists like Page, Clapton, Hendrix, Jeff Beck, Pete Townsend, Larry Coryell, Holdsworth (who is Eddie Van Halen's hero, its a fact) and the rest who all had VERY DISTINCT styles so the clash of who was better than the other could not be truly vindicated. And they all had their own very specific genre's and agendas. I was getting GW when it was released in black and white, interviews with Ritchie Blackmore (another of my heroes) and he talked about everything, not just rock n' roll. How I would love to become a columist for the future of rock, but currentl I'm getting emails from many sites I signed up for who seem to feel my music is "awesome" and needs exposure.

And sooner or later I'm gonna need a band to help support that music. Let it be known that I come from the Johnny Thunders school of metalility, take it far beyond common sense and rock yourself into oblivion. Seems the old school to me, metal or plain CBGB's sweat n' blood and outside club brawls to drive the point home: don't you dare mess with my passion c'os I'll leave ya battered and bruised. Then I'll pull ya up off the ground and shake your hand and say "are we clear? Are we friends? Good. Now let's get back to making rock music that matters." Am I a tough guy? YOU BET I AM. I've had my ass kicked for what I believe in, and I've kicked some major ass too. Its like rock n' roll: you win some, you lose some. Thanks guys.

lol This is a good thread.

Speed metal/thrash/screamo/hardcore is only for those who are deaf or brain damaged!

I'm right there w/ ya Toxic and I don't give a sh*t if you punctuate or not.

Very few people can write well and I can read your ideas rather clearly.

Don't get so grammatical that you lose any message..that would be overkill.

(grrooowwwwllllll) lol

You getting your sense of humor back, Capt. LOL!

I just wanna rock. I can't keep up with all these sub-genres. I remember going in the record store and looking for OMG, ROCK, there it is!

Chaeya

Hey there rock n' roll lady. You and I have crossed paths in our travels before, but to be honest its all ROCK N' ROLL, screw the sub-genres if need be. I wish some of you were here in Phoenix, AZ but I guess its obvious why you are not. I could see Chaeya coming in and rocking our world (my, uh, band - it appears to still be despite still no word from the drummer). Man we would be the most multi-racial band ever which I think is cool. It brings so much to the table. ap

I just wanna rock. I can't keep up with all these sub-genres. I remember going in the record store and looking for OMG, ROCK, there it is!

Chaeya

When it's fun to play, it's good music. Who cares who will remember it? Even if the whole world remembers, it won't mean a thing to you when you're gone. Ego and music seldom mix well.

Hey Tox, I would love to come and play in your neck of the woods. Phoenix is only a 8 hour drive away.

I'm interested as to how to play out of town, I mean, how do you go about getting a gig in another town where no one knows you. College radio station?

Chaeya

Best thing to do is to swap gigs with someone who wants to play in smell-A (sorry). Just get on good ole craigslist for Phoenix and title your post 'Gig Swap'. Do it before or after July or you might melt.

Don't do heat, so it would be later. Thanks.

Chaeya

WE WILL KEEP THIS IDEA IN MENTAL STASIS, AND WHEN OCTOBER ROLLS AROUND, CHAEYA AND THE BOYS WILL DO A GIG, AND WE'LL DO IT RIGHT. As for being remembered, it IS important, to ME. Then again, I have some very supernatural beliefs about what goes on after we are gone. Its part faith, part science. I see myself passing into the cosmos (hey Carl, long time no see a billion trillion stars) and becoming part of my original beginnings. If God rocks, and I think he does, then we will be able to look down on our legacy moving mountains, etc. I must consider all possibilities or life itself is nothing but an illusion.

Does anybody care if the checkout person at the Supermarket asks if you want paper or plastic? If you answered yes, they ain't asking! Damn it, I want the choice, I'm going green so do the right thing. Paper all the way. Plastic is a great replacement for a noose if ya ain't got enogh rope. But stick around, don't end it all.