General Music Chat

Several things I didn’t mention Glen but what the hell in for pound. Some mundane additional resources: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_Infant ... _States%29

Reassignment of 1st Brigade

In the fall of 2008, the 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade was assigned to serve as the on-call federal response force under the control of NORTHCOM, the combatant command assigned responsibility for the continental United States. The brigade remained at its home station of Fort Stewart, Georgia. The brigade will be trained in responding to WMD attacks, crowd control, and dealing with civil unrest.[5]

The force was renamed Chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, or high-yield explosive Consequence Management Response Force. Its acronym, CCMRF, is pronounced "see-smurf",[6] and the unit is now under the daily control of United States Northern Command's Army North, whose mission is to "protect the United States homeland and support local, state, and federal authorities." [7] It should be noted that the unit is a multi-branch force with Soldiers, Airmen, Sailors and Marines from the four branches of the United States Department of Defense.

The bank bailouts were not offered, they were forced. That’s right, even the banks that didn’t request or need bailout money, were forced to accept it. So what was the motivation? This part I know as fact, I won’t say how I know, just that I swear it’s the truth.
http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/1 ... e-bailout/

The controls our government exerts at the airport, will now find it’s way onto our public streets:
http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2 ... assengers/ Current as of three days ago.

Want to see something surreal, check this out. These people were scanned and pat down AFTER arrival at a train station: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR0G7t60 ... r_embedded
http://theintelhub.com/2011/02/24/tsa-h ... rain-ride/
Consider the source though, more complex situations have been faked in the past. But if it’s true where is the justification and due process our constitution is supposed to guarantee us? Simply traveling as a passenger is not probable cause. When the “intent” to travel from one location to another becomes and event worthy of suspicion, we are already in the grips of tyranny and effectively under martial law. The case for public safety can not be made, since it was departure and not boarding, as the point of concern.

It’s been great talking to you guys, but I feel it’s a limited time that it will continue to be allowed. Just remember when the internet and phone communications goes out and the cable TV remains on, it was no accident. Afterward your congressman will be found under: “This number is no longer in service” and business will continue as usual (or else). It’s been a good run, two hundred + years wasn’t bad. And if it sucks to be us, it will suck much worse to be any small country sitting on oil reserves. It’s going to be a wild ride, so hang on here we go! Weeee! Hayden I think you may have been right. We'll be lucky to see one more charade of an election.

Not to change the subject, but you have some great tunes posted. Thanks for sharing. Count me in.

That's scary stuff, maybe there is a grain of truth to it, but what can I as one person do to prevent it, or even help delay it.

Talk to ppl. Stay informed. Refuse to cooperate. Ask questions. Stand up with fellow citizens whenever you can against the tide.

I don't talk to alot of people,and I quit watching TV altogether about a year ago, so most of my info comes from the net and forums like these(gotta be as good or better than the networks). I can be uncooperative,yet I've found when I question the cops it justs cost me more money. I'm in to help this country, but wonder if were already to far gone. Wish I could do more.

Thanks Glen, we are improving and the next one will be the best yet.

I agree with Phil.

To resist authority is dangerous. You could get fined, beat up, tasered, pepper sprayed, detained and even killed. Unfortunately the choice is ours alone to make and to say the results may be inconvenient, is a massive understatement. For example that train video. Everyone there is probably thinking the exact same WTF? But if no one voices concern, a herd mentality will take over. This is entirely intentional, this explains the science and psychology behind it.

Five Steps to Tyranny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68GzOJQ8 ... 57A9B39FA7

The danger isn’t just what they are doing now, it’s what they are conditioning us for later. The only hiccup is that world events are pushing the agenda faster than they had anticipated. Fifteen years ago anyone of these events, would have seemed impossible. You don’t have to believe it in it’s entirety, just plausibility should be enough to raise concern. Find the truth using your own independent sources. Is your liberty worth a few hours of research? I would be immensely relieved to be proven wrong, but my conclusions are based on quite a few hours of doing just that. I have a severe outlook and assume intention, where in some cases it could just be ineptness. But that doesn't remove the dangers. In short, from this point on if there is serious mention of invading a Middle Eastern country, kiss your liberty goodbye. The people won’t buy another Iraq, so it will have to be done without their support.

This last year we are past peak oil production.
As the oil supplies dwindle contrary Islamic interests will continue to spoon feed China’s expansion.
As we lose economic influence we will also lose the technological and military edge.
We have at most ten years left of any sort of military superiority.
China has already developed a stealth fighter.
China is pushing to have the yuan replace the US dollar as the world currency.
Coincidentally, just about the entire Middle East is in turmoil.

When we emerged as the dominant super power, the free world had nothing to fear. Our principles and ideas were similar to the European and English powers we replaced. But now ask yourself. When it’s time for China to assume the role, do you really think we will just peacefully step aside? Oil will be worth more and more until it’s depletion. Will we continue to allow our enemies to control it and to feed our world competitors?

If you answer no to either of these, then what steps would be needed to assert aggressive strategic action? It simply can’t be done with a moral conscious, but our survival as luxurious as it is today, will depend on us taking action and very soon. Either the government will concede world domination (I don’t see that happening), or act on it’s own behalf. Every measure taken leads me to conclude that totalitarian rule is eminent, followed by an attempt at world conquest.

Call me crazy, but these events I have listed show a very possible path in that direction. As it is now, a wink and a nod from the president to the right person, could simply dismiss congress. For all we know, just that implication could be enough to sway congressional opinion right now. If the billion dollar carrot doesn’t work, then there’s always the stick.

Sept 9, 2009, Pfizer, the pharmaceutical mega-corp, finally pled guilty to numerous criminal charges. Their criminal business practices led to many deaths, yet no one - not a single f*cking individual - spent 5 minutes in a jail. The total settlement was in excess of $2,000,000,000...yep, that's 2 BILLION. Actually, it was 2.3 billion - the largest settlement ever gotten from a corp. We're talking HISTORY, here.

How many of us heard of this? Was it on any news program? Is it not a CRIMINAL SHAME that NO ONE was jailed for these deaths? Nope. I guess not, if the ppl weren't informed, & if we truly trust our gov't to do the right thing on our behalf.

The corp's have received all the rights of ppl, save one - the right to vote - but when they perform criminal acts, NO ONE is responsible for the crimes. NO ONE pays a price, except in money.

Our Constitution makes no mention of the word "corporation," & certainly does NOT give them any "rights" whatsoever. The "rights" afforded to corp's have ALL been given, not by rule of law, but by Supreme Court decisions. A corp is considered, in fact, an "artificial person," by the law, yet, unlike ppl, it cannot be enslaved, or give birth, or "die," & it can't be jailed or executed, no matter how eggregious its sins against humanity. Still, today's corp gets nearly all the real rights of a living, breathing person - the right to free speech (yes, corp's ARE allowed to lie - it's considered "free speech"), they cannot be searched without a waarant, even though the intent of the Founding Fathers was obviously to provide humans with rights, & corp's & other organizations created by ppl with privileges, & NOT "rights."

No branch of the US gov't has ever granted corp's the same rights as human beings, yet time after time, our Supreme Court sneakily provides them with more & more priveleges that the ppl have never once voted for.

"Free markets" DO exist in other countries, for those of you who believe that this ia a uniquely Aerican trait. Look to China & Singapore - two examples of "capitalistic dictatorships." Their economies are booming, thanks to their gov't's hands off policies, but at what cost to the worker or the consumer?

We fear the word "socialist" to a fault in this country, & swear by all that's holy that any stench of socialism will ruin our capitalist base. Yet there DO exist "democratic socialist states." Denmark, Norway, Sweden are a few, & their economies are doing better than our "free" one, & their ppl are healthier for it.

I believe the truth that unrestrained capitalism is far, far more dangerous to our American ideals, our "American dream," than either a rather strictly restricted democratic capitalism, or even a democratic socialist approach to both the market & social services. As we move into a global market, which has none of the meager protections that the US has employed to protect the ppl from evil & negligent corp's, we're seeing more & more of OUR worker's rights removed, with less return for our efforts, with a continually widening gap between the haves & the have nots, with the latter's numbers growing exponentially, while the total control over every aspect of the worker's life is in the hands of the corp world.

Do you NOT see an alarming trend, here?

At the very least, should there not be some PEOPLE jailed for making those decisions that killed so many, in Pfizer's ranks? Where does the responsibility lie, & WHY cannot we be better protected from these sorts of felonious acts? You can bet that these individuals are still working in high positions within this & other firms. How long until they kill MORE ppl with no regard for safety or law? Where is the justice in our system, when criminals walk free, & their victims continue to pay the utimate price for their actions?

It's pretty obvious, to me at least, that, in some respects, a corp has MORE rights than a person. Should we allow this to continue?

well, our Fed is actually a ficticious entity as well. We're all citizens of the district of columbia. ever hear of that state? I feel somewhat like a character in the movie "they live".

Sept 9, 2009, Pfizer, the pharmaceutical mega-corp, finally pled guilty to numerous criminal charges. Their criminal business practices led to many deaths, yet no one - not a single f*cking individual - spent 5 minutes in a jail. The total settlement was in excess of $2,000,000,000...yep, that's 2 BILLION. Actually, it was 2.3 billion - the largest settlement ever gotten from a corp. We're talking HISTORY, here.

How many of us heard of this? Was it on any news program? Is it not a CRIMINAL SHAME that NO ONE was jailed for these deaths? Nope. I guess not, if the ppl weren't informed, & if we truly trust our gov't to do the right thing on our behalf.

The corp's have received all the rights of ppl, save one - the right to vote - but when they perform criminal acts, NO ONE is responsible for the crimes. NO ONE pays a price, except in money.

Our Constitution makes no mention of the word "corporation," & certainly does NOT give them any "rights" whatsoever. The "rights" afforded to corp's have ALL been given, not by rule of law, but by Supreme Court decisions. A corp is considered, in fact, an "artificial person," by the law, yet, unlike ppl, it cannot be enslaved, or give birth, or "die," & it can't be jailed or executed, no matter how eggregious its sins against humanity. Still, today's corp gets nearly all the real rights of a living, breathing person - the right to free speech (yes, corp's ARE allowed to lie - it's considered "free speech"), they cannot be searched without a waarant, even though the intent of the Founding Fathers was obviously to provide humans with rights, & corp's & other organizations created by ppl with privileges, & NOT "rights."

No branch of the US gov't has ever granted corp's the same rights as human beings, yet time after time, our Supreme Court sneakily provides them with more & more priveleges that the ppl have never once voted for.

"Free markets" DO exist in other countries, for those of you who believe that this ia a uniquely Aerican trait. Look to China & Singapore - two examples of "capitalistic dictatorships." Their economies are booming, thanks to their gov't's hands off policies, but at what cost to the worker or the consumer?

We fear the word "socialist" to a fault in this country, & swear by all that's holy that any stench of socialism will ruin our capitalist base. Yet there DO exist "democratic socialist states." Denmark, Norway, Sweden are a few, & their economies are doing better than our "free" one, & their ppl are healthier for it.

I believe the truth that unrestrained capitalism is far, far more dangerous to our American ideals, our "American dream," than either a rather strictly restricted democratic capitalism, or even a democratic socialist approach to both the market & social services. As we move into a global market, which has none of the meager protections that the US has employed to protect the ppl from evil & negligent corp's, we're seeing more & more of OUR worker's rights removed, with less return for our efforts, with a continually widening gap between the haves & the have nots, with the latter's numbers growing exponentially, while the total control over every aspect of the worker's life is in the hands of the corp world.

Do you NOT see an alarming trend, here?

At the very least, should there not be some PEOPLE jailed for making those decisions that killed so many, in Pfizer's ranks? Where does the responsibility lie, & WHY cannot we be better protected from these sorts of felonious acts? You can bet that these individuals are still working in high positions within this & other firms. How long until they kill MORE ppl with no regard for safety or law? Where is the justice in our system, when criminals walk free, & their victims continue to pay the utimate price for their actions?

It's pretty obvious, to me at least, that, in some respects, a corp has MORE rights than a person. Should we allow this to continue?

Unrestrained government has always led to the downfall of great societies.

Please just bring up one time unrestrained free market capitalism has done the same.

Barbaric imperialism is not to be confused here. Same consequence as unrestrained government.


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I mentioned two, Glen - China & Singapore - unrestrained capitalism - costs the workers & the consumers in safety, if nothing else. Can you say lead paint? Cobalt? Tainted pet food? Poisonous children's toys? Need I say more? How about the frightening safety on the job? The low pay? Where's that American dream in THEIR system? You wanna live like they do?

I don't!

Phil , you are talking about a commie nation that is still in control. There is no FREE MARKET CAPITALISM there. It is all government controlled,down to where you sleep, what you eat, when and where you can crap,screw , raise kids , breathe, make music.

The Chinese government is the one doing all those evil things. NOT SOME CORP. IT IS THE CORP. IT IS STILL A COMMIE NATION!

Please don't applaud a few ruling over 1.3 trillion little puppets. Far worse than any CORP you could bring up.

VIVA AMERICA,, YAHDEE YAHDEE YAHDEE....

Government is controlled by corporations which are controlled by the international banking cartel which is controlled by the global elite families which are controlled by a single royal family.

Government is controlled by corporations which are controlled by the international banking cartel which is controlled by the global elite families which are controlled by a single royal family.

At one time there was a list of names and places of who the key players where. I wounder what ever happened to it?