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#294792 by Badstrat
Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:56 pm
Why don't we hear anything about the Dayton Ohio shooter from Pravda? We hear about the El Paso shooting over and over days on end.

Is it because the Dayton Shooter Supported Socialism, Antifa, Sanders, Warren, and was a registered demoncrap?
#294797 by Gulag McStradinsky
Sun Aug 11, 2019 9:27 pm
Badstrat wrote:Why don't we hear anything about the Dayton Ohio shooter from Pravda? We hear about the El Paso shooting over and over days on end.

Is it because the Dayton Shooter Supported Socialism, Antifa, Sanders, Warren, and was a registered demoncrap?

I think it is because the the El Paso shooter was taken alive, and made news worthy statements about his motives right away.

The Dayton shooter killed himself, so now they must put together the puzzle of what may have motivated him.
We now learn he was lead singer for a "PornoGrind" metal band, "Menstrual Munchies", who sang songs about raping, mutilating and killing women, and his sister was a transgender man.

Maybe these fellows are fans of "pornogrind" ?
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#294800 by Badstrat
Mon Aug 12, 2019 5:17 am
Or perhaps it didn't fit their narrative since he was an avid demoncrap supporter, thus being pretty much everything against what dems wish their killers to be.
#294803 by Gulag McStradinsky
Mon Aug 12, 2019 2:55 pm
Badstrat wrote:Or perhaps it didn't fit their narrative since he was an avid demoncrap supporter, thus being pretty much everything against what dems wish their killers to be.

Well, the El Paso shooter plainly stated that he intended to target Mexicans because of his political beliefs. His political identity provided the motive for his rampage.

The Dayton shooter did not specifically target a group of fascist Trump supporters.
Looking at the descriptions of his victims, it appears that they would have been more likely to be supporters of Democrat or third party candidates. His political identity does not appear to have motivated the shooting. Unless the democrats can prove that Putin made him do it!
#294804 by Badstrat
Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:30 pm
Vinnski Violinski wrote:
Badstrat wrote:Or perhaps it didn't fit their narrative since he was an avid demoncrap supporter, thus being pretty much everything against what dems wish their killers to be.

Well, the El Paso shooter plainly stated that he intended to target Mexicans because of his political beliefs. His political identity provided the motive for his rampage.

The Dayton shooter did not specifically target a group of fascist Trump supporters.
Looking at the descriptions of his victims, it appears that they would have been more likely to be supporters of Democrat or third party candidates. His political identity does not appear to have motivated the shooting. Unless the democrats can prove that Putin made him do it!


Well that might hold some water, however when gun violence in big cities never had the push for gun control, and I'm sure that is because most of these cities are run by dems and the black population appears to not fit the narrative either. St. Louis is currently the nation's murder capital. But cities like Baltimore, Detroit and New Orleans are always near the top. More than 70 people were shot in Chicago (Aug 8 2018)

I guess it would be easy enough to check that out.
#294805 by Mordgeld
Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:41 pm
I did see a video of a witness to the El Paso shooting saying it was 4 people dressed in black with black masks. Not trying to muddy the water here, just pointing it out as very strange. These days it hard to know what to believe when you don't know what source to trust. I know that no one clicks links but here it is anyways.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=5schBNjjhlo

Strangely, while I was still able to reach it from my mobile device, I could not locate it via desktop website.
#294807 by Gulag McStradinsky
Mon Aug 12, 2019 11:57 pm
Your link went to a youtube page that said "Video Not Available"

Adriana Quezada,
"She said she saw four men, dressed in black, moving together firing guns indiscriminately."
https://fox8.com/2019/08/04/20-killed-26-wounded-in-shooting-attack-on-shoppers-in-el-paso-suspected-gunman-arrested/

I can think of many more shootings and bombings where witnesses saw more characters involved than the 'lone wolf' that the official police story settles on ... OK City, Boston Marathon, the Kennedy's, Orlando, and too many others to remember. 'Fog of war' as they say.
Seems to be a very creepy fog. :(
#294808 by Badstrat
Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:10 am
No problem Mordgeld, you didn't change the topic any. The discussion was already somewhat wandering so to speak. Who shot who why was not the topic. What the topic was is Pravda ignored one shooting and dwelt on the other ( In order to force their "gun control" narrative.) It was the nature of the "political background" of the shooter that made one constant news and the other only mentioned in passing. To say that the killing of Mexicans was not reported as much because the shooter was dead and that he wanted to kill Mexicans and therefore the media (Pravda) gave it little air time is simply plain racist. As in " no problem, they were only Mexicans" .... or at the least that's how Pravda treated the situation.

Yet the lives of those Mexicans meant just as much to those who loved them as the lives of those killed in the other shooting meant to their families. Do you think some of those Mexican families didn't ask themselves why they weren't as important? Yet they received little air time from Pravda. The point being that it was a liberal registered democrat that supported Barney and Pocahontas who did the killing, and that did not support their agenda. Now if he were a conservative or a Trump supporter we would be hearing about it endlessly.

We are dealing with spiritual warfare, whether anyone believes that or not doesn't change that fact, but rather only their perspective of it. If you believe in God, then you believe in supernatural forces. There are two spiritual forces Waring in the world. One is the corporate Body of Christ, who is said to dwell in the body of the believer. The other is the corporate body of Satan, who rules over the unbeliever. If you are not of the body of God, you are of the body of the other. It is written that Christ is Truth, and if God is not in you, you can not hear the truth. And those who are not of the body of God listen to their father, who is the father of all lies. Anyone who does not realize that this is a spiritual battle walks in the dark.

Anyone who trusts anything that government does or says is gullible, and they will be sorely disappointed when truth wins out. Our government has been stolen from the people by con men ambassadors of evil. The power crazed lawlessness runs from the top to the bottom. That evil is out to rid it's opposition, who in essence are the white privileged Evil Racist hate filled homophobic white supremacist Climate Change denying gun toting deplorable, as they have been refereed to many times by the left.

For that reason there can never be a meeting of minds in the middle, and no discussion can be won in a debate, for each will obey his father who wars with the other. One can hear the lies, but the other can not hear the truth.
#294810 by Planetguy
Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:15 pm
OR.... the reason that one's getting more attention COULD be as simple as this is the first time a shooter actually quoted and credited a sitting president for going shoot-em up.

You know what ......sorry, but that is pretty damn newsworthy stuff right there. Score another presidential precedent for trump.
#294811 by Planetguy
Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:20 pm
Vinnski Violinski wrote:
I can think of many more shootings and bombings where witnesses saw more characters involved than the 'lone wolf' that the official police story settles on ... OK City, Boston Marathon, the Kennedy's, Orlando, and too many others to remember. 'Fog of war' as they say.
Seems to be a very creepy fog. :(


Name of my next band: "Fog Of War"

possible trib band: "Fog of GWAR"
#294814 by Mordgeld
Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:42 pm
Planetguy wrote:OR.... the reason that one's getting more attention COULD be as simple as this is the first time a shooter actually quoted and credited a sitting president for going shoot-em up.

You know what ......sorry, but that is pretty damn newsworthy stuff right there. Score another presidential precedent for trump.


Didn't he also say that it was because environmentalism? He apparently subscribed to the population bomb idea that we are raping mother earth by populating it. Anyway, I keep pointing out the fallacy of morally equating the ideas of a crazy person with people trying to have a real discussion. (Does Bernie Sanders get credit for "his" mass shooter?) Yes, Trump advocates enforcing immigration law. No, that does not mean he advocates shooting a bunch of random people and he has definitely condemned that kind of action at every turn. Normal people are not mass murderers nor do they advocate for that behavior. Suggesting that reduces the point to correlation without causation. Are you suggesting that us supporters of addressing immigration law want this sort of thing, or are you just pointing out the way the media works?
#294815 by Planetguy
Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:27 pm
Mordgeld wrote: Yes, Trump advocates enforcing immigration law. No, that does not mean he advocates shooting a bunch of random people and he has definitely condemned that kind of action at every turn.


I think you well understand that the problem isn't that trump merely advocates "enforcing immigration law". And no dems/libs I know believe he is advocating and giving voice to wanting these to happen.

But still when someone incites violence as he clearly has a track record of doing ...."punch him in the face" shouted to an angry mob at his rally, and other like minded behavior most are likely to hold him more accountability for encouraging foaming at the mouth hatred than will lambast Bernie for being an environmentalist and winding someone up sending them on their way to their shoot-em up.

Normal people are not mass murderers nor do they advocate for that behavior. Suggesting that reduces the point to correlation without causation. Are you suggesting that us supporters of addressing immigration law want this sort of thing, or are you just pointing out the way the media works?


I'm doing neither. Like all the dems/libs I know, I am for immigration laws being enforced within reason and the bounds of human decency. And no, the news sources I follow do not operate that way.
#294816 by Mordgeld
Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:11 pm
The actual quote is, "I'd like to punch him in the face", in reference to a person that was out of control and needed to be removed from the rally. I've heard stuff from other politicians (Obama) about bringing a gun to a knife fight, knowing whose ass to kick, or get in their face and argue with them. I don't support any of that except in a defensive context. Trump has explicitly said that he does not want his supporters resorting to violence. Any supporters of any political cause that want to get extra-legal with their actions need to be tried for crimes and jailed.
#294817 by Badstrat
Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:03 pm
Well if those are the explanations as to why Pravda ignored one mass shooting but not the other then why were these other shootings played down and not even mentioned in some outlets? Guess it's OK with Pravda is you only shoot a couple at a time. (Hardly worth mentioning, right?)

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019 ... d-chicago/
47 shot 4 fatalities over weekend in demon controlled Chicago
Where is Pravda? Oh yeah. It doesn't fit the narrative because it is a demon controlled city with some of the toughest gun laws on the books in the USA. But other than that.......

A few weeks ago a hospital was so full it couldn't admit any more gunshot victims.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/04/us/chica ... index.html
Aug 5, 2019 - Chicago's Mount Sinai Hospital temporarily stopped accepting ... patients after trauma center is overwhelmed with shooting victims ...

Hello Pravda.. hard to push gun control when the toughest laws are already on the books in this dem controlled city, isn't it? But maybe all the bangers went through the strict background checks before they went to a federally licensed firearms dealer to get their weapons. Right? Obviously the push for gun control isn't even about control at all since the cities run by demons are out of control. It is all about getting a foot in the door for confiscation. and then hard tyranny generally comes after the guns are gone. That's the way it has worked in most Communist/Marxist/Socialist countries.

But for those who trust the lawless con men running the senate, congress, and lawless political judicial system, you shouldn't have much a a problem with that.

By the way, The most recent FBI crime stats show that more people were killed in 2017 with hammers and clubs than were killed with rifles of any kind.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019 ... fles-kind/

Where the hell is the push for hammers, clubs and knives? Did you know that the USA is rated @72 in the most deaths by guns in the world? The information is out there.
#294818 by Badstrat
Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:15 pm
Planetguy wrote:
Mordgeld wrote: Yes, Trump advocates enforcing immigration law. No, that does not mean he advocates shooting a bunch of random people and he has definitely condemned that kind of action at every turn.


I think you well understand that the problem isn't that trump merely advocates "enforcing immigration law". And no dems/libs I know believe he is advocating and giving voice to wanting these to happen.

But still when someone incites violence as he clearly has a track record of doing ...."punch him in the face" shouted to an angry mob at his rally, and other like minded behavior most are likely to hold him more accountability for encouraging foaming at the mouth hatred than will lambast Bernie for being an environmentalist and winding someone up sending them on their way to their shoot-em up.

Normal people are not mass murderers nor do they advocate for that behavior. Suggesting that reduces the point to correlation without causation. Are you suggesting that us supporters of addressing immigration law want this sort of thing, or are you just pointing out the way the media works?


I'm doing neither. Like all the dems/libs I know, I am for immigration laws being enforced within reason and the bounds of human decency. And no, the news sources I follow do not operate that way.


You are so gullible. Yet you don't even know who you serve. We all serve someone, don't you know? You are simply what Vladimir Lenin once referred to as "Useful Idiots" . And that being a person perceived as propagandizing for a cause without fully comprehending the cause's goals

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