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#290042 by Jahva
Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:45 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOhT_uQ ... lackPilled

I love this chit... does the Times think they move the needle outside of their dwindling readership? They're the CNN of Print media...Too funny... best kind of racists... the ones out in the open for all to see.
But I do feel for you guys living on the Left coast and those living in NY... I'm sure the good in your lives outweigh the nonsense but you've got some crazyazz people with crazy ideas running things...
Open borders... Abolishing ice Socialists running for Congress... :lol:
I hang with the deplorables... that would be a good band name The Deplorables... but you probably couldn't get a gig in Cali... :o
#290043 by Planetguy
Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:10 pm
"move the needle"? no.

The NY Times, just like the "news" outlets on the right preach to their own choir.

I think that most (including me) would agree that Sarah Jeong has made plenty of comments that can construed as racist. But do you actually believe that "news" sources on the right don't have people working there who've made and make racist comments???

I don't deny that's there's racism on the left....but if you want to deny the racism on the right, you merely need look at some of the replies to that video you posted.

Jahva....I'm really not sure how you "move the needle forward" w posts like this. it is interesting to me that your return to posting here sees you wading into non music stuff. I don't recall you doing so previously.


And let's head off the all too predictable response to that last comment from those looking for a fight (paging glen) ....let's be clear, i am not in any way censoring or telling anyone what they should or shouldn't post about.
#290046 by Jahva
Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:36 pm
Planetguy wrote:"move the needle"? no.

The NY Times, just like the "news" outlets on the right preach to their own choir.

I think that most (including me) would agree that Sarah Jeong has made plenty of comments that can construed as racist. But do you actually believe that "news" sources on the right don't have people working there who've made and make racist comments???

I don't deny that's there's racism on the left....but if you want to deny the racism on the right, you merely need look at some of the replies to that video you posted.

Jahva....I'm really not sure how you "move the needle forward" w posts like this. it is interesting to me that your return to posting here sees you wading into non music stuff. I don't recall you doing so previously.


And let's head off the all too predictable response to that last comment from those looking for a fight (paging glen) ....let's be clear, i am not in any way censoring or telling anyone what they should or shouldn't post about.


HeyPG...
Hope you're doing well...
I did see your post with the duo and the $80 tips story... pretty cool and strange at the same time.
Not sure what would lead you to think I don't see the crazy chit coming from the right as well... Just happened upon this this morning and thought I'd post it.
I don't follow any Right leaning news outlets... the only one I know of is Breitbart and I've never intentionally gone to read their crap.
True I've stayed away from these topics in the past.. I'm an independent have always been. Most here are strongly opinionated left or right... I lean slightly right of center at times and occasionally left...
I promise the next crazy rightwinged vid I find that's verifiable I'll be sure to post it.
But I've watched over this past year Libertarians leave the Democratic party because of the craziness going on with the Progressives and Democratic Socialists...
Are you familiar with Dave Rubin?
He' a Libertarian went from TYT to his own program to being called a Racists by so many because he doesn't like what he's seeing happening on the Left and he calls people out for it.
You can't be too happy some this stuff... open borders abolishing ICE... just crazy.
#290047 by Planetguy
Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:55 pm
quick note as i'm running late w one foot out the door (as usual).

It's all good Jahva, I'm glad to see you back around these parts and hope you'll stick around. as the youngsters love to say..."peace out". 8)
#290049 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:10 pm
Said it a million times and it bears repeating....


On the right we police the racists....make them shut up and go away.


on the left it's a prerequisite to run.....and they elect them



For every rejected fringe weirdo on the right you can show true racism from.....I'll show you a ranking Democrat hanging out with Farakhan.



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#290051 by Planetguy
Thu Aug 02, 2018 5:29 pm
And you can (and no doubt will) say it a million times more.

But the smell of BS still pervades.
#290056 by Mordgeld
Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:26 pm
Planetguy wrote:And you can (and no doubt will) say it a million times more.

But the smell of BS still pervades.


When people say they are 'right' and 'left' they don't usually mean 'fringe'. Therefore, it isn't reasonable to point at someone hard left (authoritarian) or hard right (anarchist) and expect the more moderate majority to feel responsible for policing people they do not see as part of their group. Unfortunately, the practice of labeling moderates as somehow extreme has muddied the issues greatly.

As far as policing racists, that is an impossible standard in a world where everything can be labeled racist now. Support for freedom of speech is not the same thing as agreeing with everyone's message. I disagree with Yod on policing people/speech. My aim is not to shut people up and make them go away, it is to convince others that my message contains a better approach in the marketplace of ideas. God forbid that people that want to shut others up and make them go away gain control of government.
#290059 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:36 pm
Planetguy wrote:And you can (and no doubt will) say it a million times more.

But the smell of BS still pervades.





Speaking of BS, you never take the challenge either. Because you KNOW it's true.


:lol: 8)




I disagree with Yod on policing people/speech. My aim is not to shut people up and make them go away, it is to convince others that my message contains a better approach in the marketplace of ideas. God forbid that people that want to shut others up and make them go away gain control of government.


What the hey are you talking about? You've never seen a truer "freedom of speech" guy than me. I want everyone to expose themselves for who they really are. Let the ugliness fly!

THAT is the precise point of Freedom of Speech, and it's the Left who wants to shout down, prevent, and criminalize freedom of speech. Those people in particular? They don't deserve the right...but I'll fight for them to have it. They serve as such great examples of fascism.

But this isn't just a personal opinion. It's a mission and my feelings on this are driven by visiting hundreds of death/slave camps all over (mostly eastern) Europe, personally knowing dozens of Holocaust survivors and helping them tell their stories, and ministering with hundreds of German friends who are descendants of real Nazis. No better source for WWII history and the rise of Hitler than them.

My studies over the last 28 years were based on open questions since childhood:

Why the hell couldn't anyone stop it? Why wouldn't they? How did such a sophisticated nation like Germany follow a madman to their doom? And more importantly....can it happen here?

That last one is the only clear answer I've gotten and it's an emphatic YES and it is.

Dictators come to power by flipping the large demo against the smaller demographic. Obama started all this...and Trump is average Americans answering. Yes, it's dangerous....very dangerous because everyone starts out good (except Obama). But what these "useful idiots against Trump" never want to answer is: What was the viable option? Hillary was the end of the USA as we know it. Period. I, like many Americans that can be verified, rolled the dice on the unknown quantity of Trump.

But after all the BS shoved down our throats illegally and against our will for 8 years, this is what you're gonna get. So hey Lefties....when you start pulling back on all the bullshit you want everyone else to pay for, or demanding we accept perversion like it's "normal", when you stop pushing your agenda into our families, when you stop inviting the whole world to come live off my taxes so the Democrat Socialist Party can utterly and completely destroy our Republic......then conservatives will go back to sleep and let you do whatever you want again.

Until then, you're lucky Trump is what you got.















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#290060 by Planetguy
Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:45 pm
what challenge do you refer to?

talking "facts"... like your declarative statements stating for a "fact"
that EVERY dem candidate is a racist and crooked?

or do you want go toe to toe parsing "facts", listing names, and incidents about which side has more crooks, sexual deviants, and overall douchebags?

as i see it there's enough dirtbags on both sides, but you go ahead laying out more of those "facts"....i've got better, more productive, and more useful things to do... like a farting in a windstorm. :D
#290063 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:58 pm
Planetguy wrote:what challenge do you refer to?



Do I need to make the letters bigger so you can't act like you didn't see it???

For every rejected fringe weirdo on the right you can show true racism from.....I'll show you a ranking Democrat hanging out with Farakhan.


I've got plenty of pictures of real racists waiting for you to take the bait.


Show me ONE real example of racism from a conservative.


It will be fringe (if you can) and they will be someone rejected by Conservatism itself; whereas I'm going to show you mainstream Democrat Party. YOUR leaders.

.....not holding my breath for you to accept that challenge.

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#290064 by Mordgeld
Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:59 pm
yod wrote:...On the right we police the racists....make them shut up and go away...


Perhaps I misunderstood you. I don't like racists either but it seems like you are clearly advocating for shutting people up. Even if you manage to somehow control any racists purporting to be right wing, it is a lost cause with anything up to and including being white as a standard for being labeled a racist now. I think you have good intentions and I'm probably over-parsing your meaning.

yod wrote:What the hey are you talking about? You've never seen a truer "freedom of speech" guy than me. I want everyone to expose themselves for who they really are. Let the ugliness fly!


Seemingly at odds with your prior statement, but this I can get behind. Better to have your enemies trying to stab you from the front rather than in the back.
#290067 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:08 pm
Mordgeld wrote:
Perhaps I misunderstood you. I don't like racists either but it seems like you are clearly advocating for shutting people up.



I just happened to be in DC when the second Tea Party happened on the Mall, so I went as an observer. I saw several thousands of people being very respectful, even picking up their own trash. Saw a few people that I thought were "media plants" that started talking racist BS and were immediately confronted by conservatives on their views. They were CLEARLY at odds with the conservative message which is precisely that every citizen has rights AND responsibilities which should be judged on merit and action without government interference.

That's what I mean by "policing". Not shouting down...but open and free confrontation.

and btw, I was completely correct in suspecting "media plants" that day because I saw with my own eyes Pelosi and Cummings and a few more of the Democrat leadership come out the side of Congress and wade into a crowd of conservatives near the door. It was very very very weird at the time and the next day the story wasn't "Citizens stand against tyranny!". No, it was a concocted story about someone spitting on Cummings. Total and complete BS, with the Dept of Propoganda running this false narrative.





it is a lost cause with anything up to and including being white as a standard for being labeled a racist now.



Only a racist would do that. They expose themselves.

Most black people I know are awesome. They would never swallow such BS


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#290069 by Planetguy
Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:17 pm
yod wrote:
Planetguy wrote:what challenge do you refer to?



Do I need to make the letters bigger so you can't act like you didn't see it???

For every rejected fringe weirdo on the right you can show true racism from.....I'll show you a ranking Democrat hanging out with Farakhan.


I've got plenty of pictures of real racists waiting for you to take the bait.


Show me ONE real example of racism from a conservative.


It will be fringe (if you can) and they will be someone rejected by Conservatism itself; whereas I'm going to show you mainstream Democrat Party. YOUR leaders.

.....not holding my breath for you to accept that challenge.

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who did David Duke endorse, Hillary? Nope. And who did the skinheads and every racist hate group come out pledging their support for?

....they lent their support to the candidate and party that best reflects the ideals and beliefs they identify with. :wink:
#290070 by Mordgeld
Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:22 pm
yod wrote:I just happened to be in DC when the second Tea Party happened on the Mall, so I went as an observer. I saw several thousands of people being very respectful, even picking up their own trash. Saw a few people that I thought were "media plants" that started talking racist BS and were immediately confronted by conservatives on their views. They were CLEARLY at odds with the conservative message which is precisely that every citizen has rights AND responsibilities which should be judged on merit and action without government interference.

That's what I mean by "policing". Not shouting down...but open and free confrontation.

and btw, I was completely correct in suspecting "media plants" that day because I saw with my own eyes Pelosi and Cummings and a few more of the Democrat leadership come out the side of Congress and wade into a crowd of conservatives near the door. It was very very very weird at the time and the next day the story wasn't "Citizens stand against tyranny!". No, it was a concocted story about someone spitting on Cummings. Total and complete BS, with the Dept of Propoganda running this false narrative.

it is a lost cause with anything up to and including being white as a standard for being labeled a racist now.


Only a racist would do that. They expose themselves.

Most black people I know are awesome. They would never swallow such BS

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I could see how the people at the rally would give the 'plant' a lot of space to make it clear he/she was alone. Confrontation is fine. I would not support assaulting them despite how odious their mission is.

Most people I know are awesome. Some happen to be black.
#290072 by Mordgeld
Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:28 pm
Planetguy wrote:...who did David Duke endorse, Hillary? Nope. And who did the skinheads and every racist hate group come out pledging their support for?

....they lent their support to the candidate and party that best reflects the ideals and beliefs they identify with. :wink:


You mean like how Democrats are endorsed by Communists and Socialists? Geez, how can the Natl Socialist people like skinheads be so confused as to support someone that appointed just as many black people as Obama?

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