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I'd like to hear what our lefty friends think about this....

Even the ACLU is issuing a warning against liberal attacks on Alex Jones' freedom of speech ban. Apparently there are actually some liberals remaining of the classic sense (as opposed to anti-capitalists posing as liberal).


https://www.dailywire.com/news/34808/ac ... -paul-bois

Is it legal to shout "fire" in a crowded theater?

The idea of falsely shouting "fire" in a crowded theater arose from the Supreme Court’s 1919 decision in the case Schenck v. United States. The Court ruled unanimously that the First Amendment, though it protects freedom of expression, does not protect dangerous speech. In the decision, Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote that no free speech safeguard would cover someone "falsely shouting fire in a theater and causing a panic."

The case in question did not involve fires, theaters or general panic. It instead concerned a man’s conviction for protesting the First World War’s military draft. The man, Charles Schenck, had printed 15,000 fliers that encouraged readers to resist conscription. The Espionage Act of 1917 and the Sedition Act of 1918 criminalized such an offense, said prosecutors.




Schenck argued that the Constitution allowed his expression, but the Court disagreed. According to their ruling, Schnenck’s fliers created a clear and present danger — a clear and present danger to the government’s recruiting efforts. He hadn’t endangered life, as falsely shouting "fire" in a crowded theater would have, but he may as well have.

This "clear and present danger" standard stood for half a century. Further rulings even expanded it, criminalizing additional speech. But the Supreme Court then heard a case involving a new example of questionable speech, one that modern sensibilities might find more controversial than war protests.

Charles Brandenburg, a Ku Klux Klan leader, had spoken to group members at a televised Ohio rally. He’d used inflammatory language and racial slurs. He’d called for "revengeance," which Ohio prosecutors interpreted as a call to violence. This meant, said the prosecutors, that Charles Brandenburg had broken the law.

A statute, which the state had enacted the same year as the Schenck decision, criminalized the advocacy of crime or violence. The victims of any possible crime this speech incited would face even clearer danger than patrons fleeing a crowded theater.

Yet Brandenburg claimed the First Amendment protected his speech. His appeal reached the Supreme Court, and the Court agreed with him, in contrast with the earlier Schenck decision. Advocacy, even when it encourages law-breaking, helps the marketplace of ideas, ruled the Court. Had Brandenburg instructed followers to commit a specific crime, he’d have committed a number of offenses himself. But the First Amendment protects speech that merely advocates general, indefinite illegal action.

With that ruling, the Court overturned the Schenck decision that had introduced "shouting fire in a crowded theater." No longer was "clear and present danger" a sufficient standard for criminalizing speech. To break the law, speech now had to incite "imminent lawless action."

So if a court can prove that you incite imminent lawlessness by falsely shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, it can convict you. If you incite an unlawful riot, your speech is "brigaded" with illegal action, and you will have broken the law. But merely falsely shouting "fire" does not break the law, even if it risks others’ safety.

The reason why Conservative radio works is because of the audience. These are ALL call in shows.

Apparently Liberals don't have an audience who wants to be engaged or challenged.
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I tried at least once to see what each liberal talk radio show was like, as painful as it was to listen to, and they all took at least a few phone calls. If someone called to disagree with them, they'd always go immediately to insults and dumb propaganda like "how can you supprt trickle down policy? It doesn't work?".

Hey, they tried (to start their own version of Conservative talk radio) and I tried (to listen once or twice)

The reason why Conservative radio works is because of the audience. These are ALL call in shows.

Apparently Liberals don't have an audience who wants to be engaged or challenged.
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I tried at least once to see what each liberal talk radio show was like, as painful as it was to listen to, and they all took at least a few phone calls. If someone called to disagree with them, they'd always go immediately to insults and dumb propaganda like "how can you supprt trickle down policy? It doesn't work?".

Hey, they tried (to start their own version of Conservative talk radio) and I tried (to listen once or twice)

IIRC, 'trickle down' was the Liberal pejorative for supply side economics.

The reason why Conservative radio works is because of the audience. These are ALL call in shows.

Apparently Liberals don't have an audience who wants to be engaged or challenged.
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I tried at least once to see what each liberal talk radio show was like, as painful as it was to listen to, and they all took at least a few phone calls. If someone called to disagree with them, they'd always go immediately to insults and dumb propaganda like "how can you supprt trickle down policy? It doesn't work?".

Hey, they tried (to start their own version of Conservative talk radio) and I tried (to listen once or twice)

IIRC, 'trickle down' was the Liberal pejorative for supply side economics.

Correct. That's the original "dog whistle" in modern politics. No conservative ever called it that, but the liberals successfully changed it to that by owning the media, pre talk radio and internet days.

Marco Rubio to Alex Jones "I don't know anything about your site"
So he's aware of Tech censorship but has never heard of Jones?


"Do you support Tech censorship and shadow banning?"
Mumble mumble mumble... I'm here mumble Russia... mumble mumble Putin hacked mumble...


Slimebag liar he squirmed and dodged Alex Jones asking him some tough legit questions yesterday...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH0Wavr ... annel=CNBC

So the Left support it and the right ignore it...
Jones should show up at every politicians media appearances... and bring your popcorn

I hope Alex Jones presses charges against the SOB..he threatened Alex verbally..

I hope Alex Jones presses charges against the SOB..he threatened Alex verbally..

So should Schmed and I press charges against Glennn and Vamp because they've physically threatened us here?

I hope Alex Jones presses charges against the SOB..he threatened Alex verbally..

So should Schmed and I press charges against Glennn and Vamp because they've physically threatened us here?

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I hope Alex Jones presses charges against the SOB..he threatened Alex verbally..

So should Schmed and I press charges against Glennn and Vamp because they've physically threatened us here?

following

Do it assholes!!!!
Do you own any property I can take in rule?
You should press charges!!!
Especially if you feel threatened.
You have my EMAIL. That can be easily backtracked without involving BAND MIX.
OR...
You could just call Ted. He shows up he has total open door!!!!!

However when I read that sort of shitt

BRING IT ON!!!!!!
PLEASE BRING IT ON!!!!
DOUBLE PLEASE BRING IT ON WITH A CHERRY ON TOP!!!!
I will be happy to own every thing you have right now. I have the money and the honorable politicians to make sure it happens. I want your stupid hatred to REALLY STEP OVER THE BOUNDARY.

Let me tell you the BEES nest story...
We had a resident yellow jack nest set up in a bad place that was too close to a door that was used heavily.
I don't even know why I am explaining all this sh*t to resident trolls.

Anyway I was not "ALOWED" to hurt the little critters.
OK Green Planet and all...I didn't. So after being stung three or four times....
Kill em!!! KILL EM ALL!!!!
That was from a liberal, democratic , socialist point of view.
I didn't kill them. I got them to sign agreements to move to MEXICO on the other side of the wall.

You really don't want to push me to run for public office...


You guys are Fun.I realize I am pushing your collective intelligence . Sort of like getting laid when you are young.
THAT WAS FUN!

blah blah blah....i'm scared of my own shadow. i'm just a chickenshit with a big dumb gun

blah blah blah....i'm scared of my own shadow. i'm just a chickenshit with a big dumb gun

TROLL.

Let me tell you the real Vampier story...
We had a resident asshole-instigator set up in a bad place that was too close to a door that was used heavily.
I don't even know why I am explaining all this sh*t to resident trolls.

Anyway I was not "ALOWED" to hurt the little sh!t
So after listening to this crap three or four hundred times....
Kill him!!! KILL HIM ALL!!!!
That was from a liberal, democratic , socialist point of view.
I didn't kill him. I got him to sign agreements to move to MEXICO on the other side of the wall.

You really don't want to push me to run for public office...


You guys are Fun.I realize I am pushing your collective intelligence . Sort of like getting laid when you are young.
THAT WAS FUN!

Let me tell you the real Vampier story...
We had a resident asshole-instigator set up in a bad place that was too close to a door that was used heavily.
I don't even know why I am explaining all this sh*t to resident trolls.

Anyway I was not "ALOWED" to hurt the little sh!t
So after listening to this crap three or four hundred times....
Kill him!!! KILL HIM ALL!!!!
That was from a liberal, democratic , socialist point of view.
I didn't kill him. I got him to sign agreements to move to MEXICO on the other side of the wall.

You really don't want to push me to run for public office...


You guys are Fun.I realize I am pushing your collective intelligence . Sort of like getting laid when you are young.
THAT WAS FUN!

WOW !
I can't believe you did that Mike.
Now I actually do have a photo snapshot of that post.
When you take words out of context and fly them in to completely different statements...
That's called libel .
The only thing that saves your sorry trolling asss is that you are not worth crap.
Even piggy poo is compostable. Your shiit isn't worth shiit.

Typical TROLL!

That was about a BEES NEST YOU f**k MORON!