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Socialized medicine passed a death sentence on this infant. Thank God we are rid of Obama(non)care.


From the article:
"After baby Oliver Cameron was denied necessary medical treatment and funding by the United Kingdom's National Health Service (NHS), doctors in the United States were able to save his life......"

If you read (and understood) the whole article, the UK did not have any surgeons/hospitals to do this experimental surgery done in the US at one place only. After being pressured, they ended up paying for the baby to be flown to the US and the surgery to be done.
What's it got to do with mandatory health insurance/Obamacare?

That was very deep mike.
Not even worth arguing with you.
I'm still not going to pay for somebody else to have an abortion because it is included in the cost of MY MANDATED PREMIUM.
Oh my... Didn't President Trump just pass a bill that allowed terminal patients to receive NON FDA CLEARED TREATMENTS.
Hmmmm... That would make you pro death and President Trump Pro Life.
What a conundrum....
Like I said... It is not even worth arguing with you.

ANGELSSHOTGUN wrote:Didn't President Trump just pass a bill that allowed terminal patients to receive NON FDA CLEARED TREATMENTS.
Hmmmm... That would make you pro death and President Trump Pro Life.
What a conundrum....
Like I said... It is not even worth arguing with you.

???? Nothing to do with mandatory insurance, there, Glen, and nothing to do wiht what I just posted. And if you didn't realize it, your 'mandated premiums' go right to the insurance companies. It's your taxes (and mine) that pay for any federal-provided services.

GuitarMikeB wrote:

ANGELSSHOTGUN wrote:Didn't President Trump just pass a bill that allowed terminal patients to receive NON FDA CLEARED TREATMENTS.
Hmmmm... That would make you pro death and President Trump Pro Life.
What a conundrum....
Like I said... It is not even worth arguing with you.

???? Nothing to do with mandatory insurance, there, Glen, and nothing to do wiht what I just posted. And if you didn't realize it, your 'mandated premiums' go right to the insurance companies. It's your taxes (and mine) that pay for any federal-provided services.

Correct. The ACA was never about heath-care. No one has the constitutional right to another's labor. The ACA is about health insurance. Your ("its not a tax" -Obama) tax was to pay for the penalty of not having the required insurance. Hospitals were already required by law prior to that act to accept everyone for treatment. The service side of it failed with the exchanges when the insurance companies refused to play unless the shortfall in cost was covered by the tax payers. Your "fees" went to the govt, your taxes covered the shortfall. That is a moral hazard as insurance (or anything) that is guaranteed by the government can cost anything. It turns out that the govt is not so good at actuarial analysis. Doctors, not bureaucrats should not be handling your health plan, imo. Dividing the payer from the payee hides the true increase of health care cost just like the payroll withholding hides the true impact of the income tax. Imagine what people would vote for if they had to pay directly and separately with no withholding over time for taxes supporting health insurance and the full income tax.

GuitarMikeB wrote:If you read (and understood) the whole article, the UK did not have any surgeons/hospitals to do this experimental surgery

RIght. There is reason for that and you have no clue why, do you?

Research on anything experimental is the first thing to go under government health care budgets. That cash is needed in the pockets of politicians. They are still using Windows 95 in the post office here

GuitarMikeB wrote:

ANGELSSHOTGUN wrote:Didn't President Trump just pass a bill that allowed terminal patients to receive NON FDA CLEARED TREATMENTS.
Hmmmm... That would make you pro death and President Trump Pro Life.
What a conundrum....
Like I said... It is not even worth arguing with you.

???? Nothing to do with mandatory insurance, there, Glen, and nothing to do wiht what I just posted. And if you didn't realize it, your 'mandated premiums' go right to the insurance companies. It's your taxes (and mine) that pay for any federal-provided services.

YES it does dude. It has everything to do with high cost premiums to cover the cost of procedures required under ACA /OBAMACARE... I'm never going to have an abortion.
You are correct. It is not mandatory. However under the law, it sanctions penalties. That law sanctions penalties and no choice. That is guilt and theft by association to your own government.

Wow the smoke and mirrors b.s. and your belief in total socialism is mind blowing...
I suggest you go out and start buying some guns to fulfill your commie dreams...
Then you can back more crazies shooting up a ballfield, because YOU ARE WRONG.

CRIKETTS!!!!!SHEEP!!!!DEEP BULLSHIT!!!!!
DISGUSTING!

ANGELSSHOTGUN wrote:...
I suggest you go out and start buying some guns to fulfill your commie dreams...
Then you can back more crazies shooting up a ballfield, because YOU ARE WRONG.

That was bizarre, even by Gleen standards.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION WAS TOO MUCH FOR YOUR ABILITY TO PROCESS ANYTHING.

Thanks for wrecking another thread with BS comments.

ANGELSSHOTGUN wrote:OBVIOUSLY, THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION WAS TOO MUCH FOR YOUR ABILITY TO PROCESS ANYTHING.

Thanks for wrecking another thread with BS comments.

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ANGELSSHOTGUN wrote:CRIKETTS!!!!!SHEEP!!!!DEEP BULLSHIT!!!!!
DISGUSTING!

Proving BS around here is getting easier by the moment.

Mordgeld wrote: Imagine what people would vote for if they had to pay directly and separately with no withholding over time for taxes supporting health insurance and the full income tax.

There wouldn't be a Democrat, Socialist, or RINO Republican left in the country if that happened.

We would be 1776 all over again.




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yod wrote:

Mordgeld wrote: Imagine what people would vote for if they had to pay directly and separately with no withholding over time for taxes supporting health insurance and the full income tax.

There wouldn't be a Democrat, Socialist, or RINO Republican left in the country if that happened.

We would be 1776 all over again.

And rightly so. 10% was tyranny in the founding days.

God only asks for 10%