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So You Like Music Business Gossip?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 7:38 pm
by DainNobody
very interesting stories, stuff about the arrogance, spitefulness of some musicians, and also the good natured people that tried to make it in the music business.... stuff you probably could not find in a library..
http://www.billdeyoung.com/archives/we- ... ave-mason/

Re: So You Like Music Business Gossip?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 8:41 pm
by GuitarMikeB
Dave Mason - unbelievable rock songwriter. I remember the album Headkeeper, didn't know the 'stolen tapes' story of it. Saw Traffic right after the last time Mason left the band, in 73.
Saw a show around 76 or 77 (guessing it was 76, when he released that double live album) at the Cape Cod Coliseum where he headlined. Most boring show I had ever been to (at the time) - so boring in fact that 2 years after, he was headlining a college show at Boston U, where local favorites Robin Lane & the Chartbusters were opening. Me and my friends stayed for her set, but 15 minutes into Mason's we left.
He's played around here a couple of times recently, I think the last time he was recreating Traffic songs.

Note that this particular story was posted in 2014, but actually written 21 years ago, 1996.

This thread should have been in the music section of the forum.

Re: So You Like Music Business Gossip?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:54 pm
by Badstrat
There was a local band here that was so bad the patrons of the club passed the hat and paid them to go home.

Re: So You Like Music Business Gossip?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:18 pm
by DainNobody
GuitarMikeB wrote:Dave Mason - unbelievable rock songwriter. I remember the album Headkeeper, didn't know the 'stolen tapes' story of it. Saw Traffic right after the last time Mason left the band, in 73.
Saw a show around 76 or 77 (guessing it was 76, when he released that double live album) at the Cape Cod Coliseum where he headlined. Most boring show I had ever been to (at the time) - so boring in fact that 2 years alter, he was headlining a college show at Boston U, where local favorites Robin Land & the Chartbusters were opening. Me and my friends stayed for her set, but 15 minutes into Mason's we left.
He's played around here a couple of times recently, I think the last time he was recreating Traffic songs.

Note that this particular story was posted in 2014, but actually written 21 years ago, 1996.

This thread should have been in the music section of the forum.

if I would have been born in southern California to parents that encouraged musical development, and had not been discouraged by my parents into even messing with a musical instrument when young, and living on a farm in southern Iowa to boot, maybe I could have maybe been another freakish hipster musician hanging around at Mama Cass's house.. wish I was as old as Slacker then it could have been possible I guess..even Slacker was young in 1968..

Re: So You Like Music Business Gossip?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:28 pm
by DainNobody
and that's another gripe, Iowa was even made fun of on Johnny Carson and other tv shows.. not only was I living in Iowa already considered blase , I was living in darkest deepest podunk Iowa.. even the major acts of the time did not make stops in Iowa.. you had to drive to Minneapolis or St. Louis .. they did have a Iowa Jam I and Jam II but I think ZZ top was the headliner, not exactly Led Zeppelin caliber musical act.. made it to the Iowa Jams at Fairgrounds to watch them, and only other venue was Veteran's Auditorium in Des Moines.. I don't think Dave Mason even made it to Iowa. don't remember him anyhow but did have Moriposa del Oro

Re: So You Like Music Business Gossip?

PostPosted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:40 pm
by J-HALEY
Dave Mason is one of my all time favorites. I saw him 3 times in the 70's. He always had great musicians. He didn't jump around that has never impressed me. I just want to see a nice stage and lighting with great songs performed by great musicians!

Re: So You Like Music Business Gossip?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:53 pm
by GuitarMikeB
I think what bored me at that Mason show was the lack of 'feeling' in the performance - everyone was just going through the motions. I just did some googling, think the show was in 77, so the year after the double live album.

I'm pretty sure the opener at that show was the Sanford-Townshend Band (one-hit wonders) who were pop-ish and not very good, and then the second act was Heart, who rocked the place.

Re: So You Like Music Business Gossip?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:46 pm
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Dayne Nobody IV wrote:very interesting stories, stuff about the arrogance, spitefulness of some musicians, and also the good natured people that tried to make it in the music business.... stuff you probably could not find in a library..
http://www.billdeyoung.com/archives/we- ... ave-mason/



I don't know....met a super-groupie in Birmingham who has a lot more interesting stories to tell.

My drummer in the 80s met Phil Collins backstage at a concert. His impression was that Phil was not big on taking regular showers. That's really unfair because when one is traveling that much, you never know when/where you get the chance.

And I used to think rock stars were such whiners about what is supposed to be backstage when they arrive. I think it was Christine Agulera complaining about the kinds of sandwiches or something....but now I realize that might be the only meal a traveling act gets and if it's not something they would eat, well, they could go hungry for a while because setting up and doing a concert become priority.

So I cut these folks slack when hear what others have to say about them. I don't blame them for being grouchy, rude, bitchy, whatever. Unless you've lived out of a suitcase and changed residence every day for a few months at a time, you can't even imagine what it's like.


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Re: So You Like Music Business Gossip?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:50 pm
by DainNobody
I thought it was cool learning things or trivia I did not know, Dave Mason trading a lead guitar solo for a harmony vocal with Crosby Stills Nash, IMMIGRATION MAN is Dave Mason playing lead solo.. it was a hit.. thought it was neat how he did not make Krueger's funeral, said they drink too much, kinda dishonest of Mason cause he drank like a fish too.,. neat to know he loved Cass Elliot? .. Clive Davis was magicall.. I liked the article much :D

Re: So You Like Music Business Gossip?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:03 pm
by DainNobody
what was really cool, was Eric Clapton wiped off all his (Dave Mason's) guitar playing for Derrick and The Dominos and put Duane Allman's licks on it.. I knew Duane Allman played with Derek And The Dominos but did not know Dave Mason played with them first, and was deleted..wonder why?.. Duane Allman also played on 461 Ocean Blvd. too by Clapton, my favorite Clapton album

Re: So You Like Music Business Gossip?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:08 pm
by DainNobody
neat trivia.. the liner notes says Hendrix played bass on Electric Ladyland but inside the album you see Mason and Hendrix together playing? .. it was supposed Mason played some rhthm guitar 12 string and supplied horn at an outtro on one of the tunes.. it is fun knowing stuff.. who would of thought Hendrix and Mason were close..

who would of thought Dave Mason played on McCartney's Venus and Mars album? "Listen To What The Man Said" is Mason playing

soldier boy kiss his girl leaves behind a tragic world

Re: So You Like Music Business Gossip?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:18 pm
by DainNobody
and the band meeting where Winwood and Capaldi told him, "we don't like your music, don't like what you do, don't want you in the band anymore" that was hilarious.. :D
amd Mason saying they were jealous cause he was creating the commercial hits and they were not in Traffic.. LOL