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Why wasn’t obamacare repealed?

Simple. Aside from being able to have full control of every individual in the United States it is a pyramid scam of astronomical proportions. This is a money pit that will break the economy of families in the United States once and for all. And it is here to stay. Both the repukes and the demons love it.

Pre existing conditions are the sympathy bait for the gullible. That is todays rallying flag of the tyrant. We already had coverage for pre conditions through various government agencies long before obamacare. But by waving the pre condition banner they will dupe a good deal of America. After all, that is the noble thing to do. Remember this: the last refuge for scoundrels is patriotism.

So we sit with Federal tax subsidies for the insurance “preexisting conditions” scam, increased from $47.5 billion to $138 Billion. That is a lot of money for politicians to divert to favorite boondoggles. That subside alone is enough to insure every person and pay the medical expenses of everyone in America. Think about that. The obamacare program is a scam laden with thousands of hidden taxes and regulations. The repukes want it, and the demons want it. If not it would have been repealed. So why would they want it if it will end up breaking the economy of the United States?

That is exactly why they want it. It is the final nail in Americas coffin, the ideal vehicle for implementing a Cloward Piven takeover of the United Stated by the political class. It is the vehicle that is being used to bring a tyrannical political coup of the US by the ruling class thus ridding themselves of those who love individual liberty and freedom. I have pointed this out since obamacare was first brought up. The demons love Cloward Piven. That is the vehicle of their their bloodless coup, their means of grabbing all power from the citizen that put them into power to protect their liberty and freedom.

When the economy crashes, politicians will rid themselves of all input from the people. They will finally have their totalitarian state, where they alone will rule freely as little emperors over the will of the people.

When you get sick after this coup, who will get medical services? The disabled? The elderly? The useless eater? Those who do not approve of the new totalitarian state? No. Their argument then will be that valuable services should not be wasted on such as these. It is that way in China, Korea, and everywhere else dictators’ rule, and only the foolish believe that it will not be that way here.

Some say they voted for trump because he was the lesser of two evils. But they soon forgot that the lesser of two evils is still evil. Some now defend the lesser of two evils to their own harm. Their battle cry is give evil a chance. Evil is getting its chance and it is using it to destroy you.

No Asner, “Why wasn’t obamacare repealed?” was a rhetorical question that I answered myself. What I said is what is going down. If you honestly believe what you said then you have swallowed the propaganda the media is feeding to you.

Trump would love for obamacare to crash on his watch so he could have full control over the healthcare debacle. Contrary to what you believe, Trump wants a single payer system. That means government control of everything medical, choosing who gets retreated and what treatment people can or can not have according to cost, age, and other criteria. (In the beginning) If that were not so he would not have gone along with these “slight modifications” to obamacare.

The present bill, which he said he would sign, has yet to get through all the procedures before it lands on his desk. What is in that bill will make healthcare less affordable and more inferior and it will cause a sooner than later crash. Within the new amendments are substantial increases of funds to the insurance companies further driving down marketplace competition and increasing costs to the individual. And I am sure that there are a lot of things that we are not being told. Trump himself is touting this as a repeal. It is not. The changes that have been touted have made it more unstable and more costly and more apt to implode.

I am quite sure that changes that trump said will most likely be made before it is passed and on the way for him to sign will be even more damaging than the huge increases in insurance company subsidies that I am sure will remain. Do the math. Trump wants to eliminate the required enrollment in this debacle. If that happens many people will choose not to pay, that along with the huge payoffs to insurance companies mean disaster. Less money coming into the system, more money going out. And instead of payments coming in from individuals we have a giant healthcare welfare program handing money out to millions, even to families making upwards of $250,000 a year. A first grader who still has to count with his fingers could show you that won’t fly for long.

obama and most of the demons are Socialists and Clowrd Piven supporters. They studied it. They are living by it. The Cloward Piven stratedgy is to collapse a society by getting all the people that you can on government entitlement programs until the system collapses from the financial weight. Then those in power can begin all over again without a constitution or personal rights to free speech, property rights and so forth. Then they can have their totalitarian regime that so many in power today dream about. To make it short, the overlords will be the only ones who have rights, and you will do what they decide is best for you. Getting more like that already, isn't it?

That would explain no border control, unlimited immigration from Islamic nations (All on the government dole when they get here), huge welfare programs, increasing the budget debt time after time with no restraints on spending and the list goes on an on. We are headed for financial Armageddon and no one or nothing is being done to change that fact. They have cut some giveaway welfare programs only to have bigger more expensive ones planned.

You can disagree with what I am saying but the facts and the direction we are headed speaks for itself. Look around and see what is going on and stop listening to the propaganda. They want total control over you and they are getting it. They are taking free speech, religious liberty, the type of food farmers can grow, how much livestock they can raise, what you can use for energy and how much, and on and on. They tell you what kind of toilet you can have, how much water you can use, what kind of light bulbs you can use, what mileage your car can get, if you can did in your yard or not, if you can build something on your property or not, you need permits for everything you do. Every year more and more is added to the you can't do list. Ever hear the frog in boiling water parable? We have been in the pot for years and most are still oblivious to the temperature.

Remember when obama told you to report your neighbors if they disagreed with his policies? Remember his telling his lackeys to report Internet posts that were negative in nature to his campaign? Remember cities telling garbage men to monitor your trash? He had neighbor spying on neighbor. We were able to slow that down, but now every word written, spoken on the Internet or on your phone are recorded. Everything you do is being put into your own personal file. Now no one has to report anything you say or disagree with because they get that information daily.

Government health care is the means to total control over the individual. You don’t want to play by their rules… you don’t get treated. Government healthcare IS SOCIALISM.

Disagree as you must, but I am sticking to everything I have said. I was told that America is going down, and I have relayed that many times before. Those with ears to hear and eyes to see bear witness to this themselves.

Trump keeps on pondering about the single pay medical coverage system but he continually sits on his haunches.. is he crippled? aside from keeping out of the sun..?

That's an awful picture Dayne.

Here is the healthcare solution.
First, NO FREE PERSON WILL BE FORCED INTO ANOTHER SOCIAL REDISTRIBUTION PROGRAM SUCH AS SOCIAL SECURITY.
Second, Doctors performing extremely risky and difficult procedures shall only be accountable to the point that they are not providing lifesaving skills instead of being personally liable to lawsuits that are out of control. LIVING IS A RISK!
Third, Insurance companies must have their profits limited to investments made on the premiums collected. This is a big one because this is where SOCIAL SECURITY has FALLEN APART. The promise of our government has only led to abuse. The money collected must be treated as a pool, not as pure profit.

If that doesn't fit as a business model then you should not be in the insurance business.

Fourth, in a nation of FREEDOM... All individuals must accept their own choices and consequences.
I find it disgusting that I am being forced to pay for some woman's ABORTION as a matter of taxed health care. Or I am forced to pay for someones GENDER change.
Mind you... I WILL ONLY SIT IN JUDGEMENT OF EITHER IF THE EXTREMES ARE FORCED UPON ME. SIT IN JUDGEMENT BECAUSE IT IS FORCED ON MY BELIEFS. Shouting... Damn right.

You phucking socialist have NO right to impose your will on FREE PEOPLE... We are watching... I'm watching...
Be careful when you come up and try to punch us in the nose. It may not work out as intended.

"When people finally get it through their heads that the issue is INSURANCE, not healthcare, then maybe the people will elect people to Congress who will look at solving the INSURANCE problem from a business perspective."

Aren't you a bit old to be so naive, george ? obamacare is about population control and redistributing wealth.

I don't know why you two are bantering over the same problem.
Insurance.

Private companies where operating under strict insurance laws for many years..Our government with the hidden agenda of "Protecting every American citizen with health care ".... CHANGED ALL THE RULES. THEY CHANGED THE LAW.

This is just part of the plan to destroy America...