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Mitchell is said to have claimed alien life is “the highest form of intelligence that works directly with God.”

Podesta has advocated the release of data in relation to Area 51 in the past, and recently declared he persuaded Hillary Clinton to disclose secret papers about UFOs.

In the past the Vatican has allegedly stated there is no boundary between science and religion.

If you think about it, isn't the bottom line of utopia simply the abolishment of choice? Isn't utopia having some supreme leaders (who would never live by the rules and boundaries they dictate for you) putting limits on your creativity and the ability of you to live as you wish to live? Dream small. Ticky tacky little boxes all in a row = the utopia of the elite for you. Even God doesn't believe in utopia.

It would be great, but human nature is contrary. There will always be greed, jealousy and corruption. It's why communism doesn't work. I mean the way I see it; if Cain and Able weren't up to the task, being a sliver away from the reality of God and living in a sparsely populated world, or a better example Adam and Eve. Normal folks could not; or more to the point would not be able to thrive in that restrictive of an environment. Now days people have no inkling between what is "legal" and what is "moral", so there must be a law for every single possible human action. Because if it wasn't right, then it would HAVE to be illegal! The skills of proper social interaction and common sense are no longer necessary. The ironic thing I guess; is that if we don't eventually act as one world eventually, to solve the bigger problems, we will perish together certainly.

JookeyMan ... awesome thread and great Posts from everyone ... impressive. Slacker, good to see you back. Just a point ... Slavery in the world is on the increase.