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#266216 by Planetguy
Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:11 pm
Donald Trump has already flip-flopped on Lester Holt’s debate performance

By Callum Borchers September 27 at 10:03 AM

In the immediate aftermath of Monday's presidential debate, Donald Trump had nothing but praise for moderator Lester Holt.

"I thought Lester did a great job," the Republican nominee told CNN, adding that he thought the evening's questions were fair.

By the time he appeared on "Fox & Friends" Tuesday morning, however, Trump had changed his mind: "I'd give him a C, C+. I thought he was fine. Nothing outstanding. I thought he gave me very unfair questions at the end — the last three, four questions."

Among Trump's other complaints: His microphone was too low and wasn't working properly. On TV, anyway, there were no audio problems.

It is not hard to figure out what is going on here. Trump, whose default mode is "winning," felt good right after the debate and therefore had no gripes. Then he found out he lost in the eyes of most viewers — and seemingly, members of Congress, too. Now he needs to put the blame somewhere.

Continuing a familiar pattern, he picked a member of the media and a piece of equipment. (Remember when he blamed his refusal to disavow David Duke and the Ku Klux Klan on a bad earpiece?)

Trump's campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, also said right after the debate that "Lester Holt did a great job as the moderator."But other surrogates seemed to sense more quickly that their candidate fared poorly, and were swift to bash Holt.

#266222 by Badstrat
Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:42 pm
Just like the rest of us, trump had to dig to get the truth. When you discover that you have been lied to through Holt's phony liberal fact checks, why not point it out?

"What difference, at this point, does it make?" ... HC
#266225 by Planetguy
Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:59 pm
Planetguy wrote:"what diff"?

the difference it makes is that it shows that democrat...uh, i mean republican... trump yet again flip flopping and lamely trying to rewrite things. :oops:


trump had to"dig to get the truth"???....the only thing he "dug" the other night was more holes he later had try to dig himself out of.
#266229 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:50 pm
Planetguy wrote:
[b]It is not hard to figure out what is going on here. Trump, whose default mode is "winning," felt good right after the debate and therefore had no gripes. Then he found out he lost in the eyes of most viewers — and seemingly, members of Congress, too.




Who cares what politicians and the establishment media thinks?


The polls from CBS, MSNBC, Time (and every conservative media besides them) ALL say that Trump won with the voters.

Trump was allowed to bloviate way too long, and that's probably why he thought Holt did a good job at the end of the debate. But Lester was not even-handed in his "fact check" mode. He challenged Trump with "facts" that were not accurate, and never challenged Hillary on her baloney. This was only apparent once the debate was over and the facts could be checked.

I don't see a flip-flop. I see macro analysis, instead of micro.

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