Musician Forum - Band Discussion Board - BandMix

picked it up yesterday at the swap meet along with a Danish Soborg free form bowl (no stem), a Butz-Choquin Metz Origine St. Claude France briar bowl (now these are valuable pipes fo' sure) a Squire Briar (not so much $$)a hardened rubber curved stem probably for a meerschaum Bavarian pipe, ?? a plain clay bowl pipe and this glazed end clay pipe bowl.. who is the personality on the front? I make out something like Savonga Amay? around top of the portrait..the writing might be Italian or Latin? and was maybe on the artwork before being copied to this pipe bowl.. pretty nice glaze or maybe enamel?.. let me know what yo think is it a Chinese knock-off?

I ntried to jew Billy the Cowboy down to 12$ then 13$ but he would not budge from his 15$.. shrugged my shoulders and did the trade..LOL

did I get hurt at 15$?

thanks jook!.. I am thinking about sending you one of the bowls as a gift?..I will need your street address or p.o. box

Billy's parting words was "that might be sterling silver"?, pointing at the band, I was thinking as he said it, "might be but I don't think so, maybe German silver"..

Dayne Nobody IV wrote:I ntried to jew Billy the Cowboy down to 12$

you tried to "jew him down"......really?

really? wow.

PG is right!
The proper term is moooslim him down.
The way it is done is simple... If the guy won't bargain you simply take your assault weapon and unload 3000 rounds in a minute. This method is not a recommended bargaining for Americans. As often witnessed when used by whackos...

The end result is often heard... mooooslim,... him down.

Nice pipe. Did you know smoking is against the law? Welcome to America.

no offense to the jews, it is just a term for bargaining.. sorry, but I have heard that term so many years, that it is second nature now, sorry planetguy, as I said, no offense.. nigger-toes is a vulgar term for brazil nuts, but again, that is not meant to be offensive, just vernacular language that is probably not "correct" for the progressive movement's purpose.. to homogenize everything and then call it good.. no offens,e I say!!!

planet guy, if I may? .. you claim you are an atheist, but you must still harbor feelings for your familial association to the jews? .. I did not have any maliciousness intent saying" jewing somebody down" and if i had known it was offensive would not have said it.. I thought an atheist would break all association with their religious and familial association with the group they are from, I was wrong, and now feel embarrassed again..progressive movement is a an overly sensitive group in my opinion.. they want no barriers of ethnicity, or race, in thei move for a one world government.. we all must break down the barriers and homogenize.. it's all good!

Dayne Nobody IV wrote:planet guy, if I may? .. you claim you are an atheist, but you must still harbor feelings for your familial association to the jews? .. I did not have any maliciousness intent saying" jewing somebody down" and if i had known it was offensive would not have said it.. I thought an atheist would break all association with their religious and familial association with the group they are from, I was wrong, and now feel embarrassed again..progressive movement is a an overly sensitive group in my opinion.. they want no barriers of ethnicity, or race, in thei move for a one world government.. we all must break down the barriers and homogenize.. it's all good!

no, it's not ALL good. ethnic slurs are never good

where to begin?

whether i'm jewish or not has little to do w anything. "jewing some down" is an offensive slur. i trust i don't need to explain why.

i'm not black...but i would take the same offense at your saying you "nigger-rigged" something.

get it?

the fact that i'm an atheist has nothing to do w any of that. i have no idea why you think it would. i'm an atheist AND i'm a jew. yes, you can be both. i identify very much w being jewish. being jewish is much the same as being italian or part of any ethnic group. you don't simply stop being a jew because you're an atheist.

that's strike two, dayne.

Dayne Nobody IV wrote:no offense to the jews, it is just a term for bargaining..

are you kidding? why do you think it WOULDN'T be offensive? yes i'm familar w the term. do you understand the connotation and what it's about? ...the not so implied implication being that jews are cheap and always looking for a bargain.

think about it.

my father used that term all the time and I know well he was not a racist or a bigot..I probably picked that term up off of him, and I know damn well he hated Hitler and their mistreatment of jews, and he honored a jewish scrap man on the southeast side of Des Moine where we would go to buy cast iron elevator "buckets" to use as hog waterers inside the farrowing pens.. so please, just because a guy says jewing somebody down does not mean they are trying to be offensive in any way, it's just a figure of speech that has been passed down for generations..nv most probablty however, in non-jewish families..please don't make me out to be a bigot by saying that long-time saying..I doubt if religious jews even give it much consideration or thought if they are not trying to promote some agenda onto some group of people..

We can keep using the word "gyp" as verb, though, right?
http://racerelations.about.com/od/diver ... cist_2.htm
Jew Down

While explaining why the term “gypped” is offensive to British paper the Telegraph, editor Jake Bowers compared use of the term to another offensive expression – “jewed.” Traditionally at flea markets and garage sales, pretty much any place where sales price is negotiable, it was common to hear references to someone “jewing down” the cost of something.

The term is offensive because it plays on the stereotype that Jewish people are tightwads who are so good at haggling they can sway someone into selling them something for less than the asking price. Today, it’s uncommon to hear younger people using the term, but the elderly may still use it, as it didn’t raise eyebrows in the past.
it did not raise eyebrows in the past"

and could this have not been better communicated through the use of some tough love on an email account and not this message board? sheesh planetguy..