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#259721 by DainNobody
Fri May 13, 2016 7:56 pm
I have more experience with pigs, more than anybody on this forum.. and it is with great pleasure, my recollection of accounts with pigs when growing up on a southern Iowa row-crop farm.. first let me state, pigs have a nickname where I come from, that name is "mortgage-lifters" because if a gu or gal learns the intricate science of producing feeder pigs for market, he/she can pay off their farm very early, but you need to know the science and all the pitfalls that can ruin your pig profitability.. you can produce good pigs outdoors in A-frame huts or indoors with crates or cottonwood pens.. it takes 3 months 3 weeks and 3 days for a sow to give birth from conception with a high quality purebred Hampshire boar.. yes, that's right, you need at least some Hampshire in your pigs to give it the superior traits a Hampshire will give you.. Durocs the sows produce bigger litters, Berkshires give higher quality better tasting pork but with lower meat yields, also did you know Berkshires was an 1800's era hog with a lot of lard? they have bred the fat out of hogs thru the years to get better leaner carcasses..but all in all nothing tastes better than a Berkshire.on the farm i lived on from 1964 to 1976 we had 90-95 brood sows..with a 7.4 pigs per litter average..we used Moorman's starter and grower pellets for the pigs, they got combiotic shots to reduce scours and cholera and erisypelas shots..male/boar pigs castrated within 7 day and needle teeth clipped to keep face scarring down..we did not dock tails waste of time..you could get 3 litters per sow a year..I have seen 40 lb feeder pigs bring anywhere from $16.00 a head to $45.00 a head in the years from 1964 to 1976.. those are old 1964-1976 dollars and dollars were worth a lot more then than todays dollars.. you had to keep fresh oat straw in the pens to make a healthier pig, they lose body heat like you do without a blanket on cold nights..always keep a fresh bed of straw for them..best to corner off a pen with a plank to give the little guys shelter from getting laid on and killed, this is the beauty of crates but in my opinion crates are cruel to the sow, we let our sows out at morning chores period and againat late afternoon chores period.. sows are so smart they come back in laden and hurting will full teats of milk and they know exactly where their pen is, miraculous really, if you think hogs are dumb, you better think again, they are so related to us that we can use their body parts as replacements for our body parts, that's saying something right there, about the affinity I have with hogs.. more to come, but this rotor cuff is beginning to hurt again, and I need to doctor myself aain if you know what I mean.. but stay put, cause there will be more to come at a later time.. :)
#259726 by RGMixProject
Fri May 13, 2016 11:51 pm
1. A Sixth Sense
Pigs understand when a positive or negative event is about to occur, which increases their heart rates.

2. Recognition of Friends
The same way dogs can recognize other dogs from their barks, pigs identify other pigs through their odor. Sows can also distinguish the squeals of their own piglets.

3. Sensitive Snouts
Pig snouts contain the highest amount of tactile receptors. This means that not only do they use their snouts to forage for food, but also in social settings to sniff out identities, sexual and emotional states of others, and navigate aggressive encounters.

4. Robust Memory
If a pig is shown an object for two days, he or she will remember that object for five days. For important items such as food, pigs will use all of their senses to remember its location, color, smell, and size.

5. Unique Personalities
Pigs possess individual differences and preferences that are consistent over time. These one-of-a-kind personality traits include levels of aggression, sociability, and curiosity.

6. Play Fetch
Pigs not only understand commands such as “sit” and “jump,” they also comprehend the concept of playing fetch, and can perform the actions associated with objects such as running after and retrieving balls.

7. Ultra-Hearing
Pigs’ hearing range spans 42–40,500 Hz, which classifies them as “sensitive” in the ultrasound range—a frequency that is greater than the upper limit in humans’ range.

8. Human Understanding
Pigs understand the emotions attached to a person’s head position, and how these positions relate to attention. They can also understand the meaning behind a finger point.

9. Have Fun
The desire to play is connected with creativity, which helps shape their foundations for social and object-based abilities. Pigs play in a similar way to dogs and other mammals by engaging in both object play (such as pushing balls and carrying sticks) and social play (like chasing other pigs).

10. Self-Awareness
Pigs watch themselves in the mirror and recognize a sense of self, both mentally and physically. One mirror self-recognition test found seven out of eight pigs were able to find hidden food through spatial localization while the eighth went behind the mirror.
#259781 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun May 15, 2016 11:23 am
I want to thank you guys. It may sound silly but I grew up with some great dogs. I didn't want a pig... But if mama ain't happy, you don't get laid.

Dayne there is so much truth in your post and even a greater understanding from RG's. First of all my wife's little guy is a PET. He is a spoiled rotten piggy. :lol: He is not a wild boar fighting for survival, he is a pet that is actually very concerned with being clean. Not meaning to get disgusting, but I have never seen a dog that will hold it so long that it turns into a 10 minute pee.

6th sense... This little piggy not only knows within a few minutes of feeding time but also can sense "dangerous dogs" when we take him out on adventures. He has an uncanny way of being friendly to people he likes and people he will tolerate. I'm talking about strangers. Even funnier is that over the last year, there have been 2 incidents where he has absolutely "fallen in love". Both were with some incredibly beautiful young woman... Go figure.
His razor back goes up and he is on alert long before I see any potential threats. Sometimes I think it is hearing, sometimes it is smell, and sometimes when the wind is loud and blowing strong in the opposite direction of his alert... the only thing I can presume is it is 6th sense. I'm talking about a deer spooking him, that was far off and not in immediate sight.

Independent, personality, protective... I have to be careful of things I say to him.I didn't want a pig... I'm just a softy...
He is a pet... Now the only problem I have with this is he could outlive me. :lol:

Thanks guys... As much as we bicker, I do appreciate you!
#259783 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sun May 15, 2016 12:03 pm
Just a note... We ran into one problem. Piggy has stopped growing, but he still weighs about a hundred pounds. I noticed he was complaining more and more, every time we picked him up to get him into the car. I mean he didn't like it at all. I think it was staring to hurt his throat every time we lifted him.
Mind you he loves to go on adventures, walks. (Show him his leash and harness and he would put it on himself if he had hands.) He starts talking and dancing ... Spoiled rotten piggy.
So we got him a ramp. He figured it out in a minute, it was so he didn't have to be picked up to get in the car. No complaints, let's roll. Now he is our little "ramp champ"...

Way to funny!
#259793 by Badstrat
Sun May 15, 2016 2:10 pm
Someone that I knew came over to my house one day offering me a pot bellied miniature pig. Naturally I wanted to keep it and all worked out well for some time. But it kept getting bigger and bigger. It turns out that "Bacon" was a full grown hog and not a pot bellied pig. We gave him to a farmer who wanted him, bit I suspect that "Bacon" was eventually live up to his namesake,. I hope it didn't end up that way but who knows? He was a truly pleasant little guy to have around.
As it turned out I should have given my wife to the farmer and kept the pig.
#259905 by DainNobody
Wed May 18, 2016 10:10 pm
Trump has never called a woman a pig. ..
#259917 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu May 19, 2016 10:02 am
Piggy just chewed into a bottle of vitamin C. I don't think it's going to kill him. It's like having a little kid. He wasn't hungry and that's not good. I keep telling everyone to think ahead about what he can get into... My daughter left a 6 pack of bottled beer within his piggy reach, when she stopped by the other day.
Piggy doesn't like wine... He loves beer. Anyway the little bugger dragged a bottle off and opened it. Beer all over the floor. A finger taste is one thing a whole bottle is a different thing. Little bugger... He didn't get that much but I bet he would be a nasty drunk.
Like I said, just like having a kid around.
Call someone a pig... Only if they were dumb enough to consider it an insult. :)
#259918 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu May 19, 2016 10:30 am
I know this is boring to some, so don't read it.
The other day I was replacing our 20 year old AC. I was getting ready to evacuate or pump down the new system.
Little piggy came over and nosed his way in as I was hooking the pump. It was like he was trying to help. "Whats going on here."
I asked him to get out of the way. I guess I hurt his little feelings...
As I was squatting to finish the hook up he came over and gave me a huge piggy push in the butt and ran away squealing in his piggy "laughter". Can't make this stuff up. Too funny.
By the way piggy is ok after his vitamin C overdose.
#259939 by MikeTalbot
Fri May 20, 2016 12:00 am
Winston Churchill on Pigs:

“I like pigs.
Dogs look up to us.
Cats look down on us.
Pigs treat us as equals.”

Talbot
#259944 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Fri May 20, 2016 12:57 am
jookeyman wrote:Glennie-

Again, I don't have much experience w/ domestic hogs because I've never had one but I have fond memories of spending the summers on my Grandfather's farm when I was young. Back in the 60s (before the government installed weirs in the bayou) the water level would get low in the bayou in the summer. All of the people along the bayou had pig pens made of mesh wire (hog wire, to be specific) that extended into the center of the bayou. They would all cross the road w/ there pales of slop to feed the hogs every day. This gave the hogs a place to wallow around in the mud and water to stay cool in the summer.

I specifically remember an old, old Black lady that lived a couple of houses down the bayou from Gramps. I used to go visit her when I was finished feeding the cows. She had a HUGE white sow, the largest hog I've ever seen in my life (to this day). I used to scratch her head w/ a stick.

Like I mentioned, I am very experienced w/ wild hogs. I used to hunt them years ago and they are VERY hard to hunt. They have actually gotten to be a nuisance animal down here so the wildlife agents have an open season on them year round. They drop a LOT of pigs each year (as Dayne has mentioned) and they eat all of the browse once reserved for deer, destroy crops and tree plantations. IOW- it's gotten out of hand.



That reminds me of my grandpa's place in Zwolle, Louisianna. We hunted boar and we raised pigs.

I had to help my dad castrate several hogs for gramps once. He'd slice open their scrotum and slap some salt in there...OUCH!!!

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