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Look, since you included me... As far as ABORTION it is an issue that is so far reaching as far as killing un born Americans, to Women's rights. I DON'T HAVE the ANSWER! Go through ALL my threads. My personal thought is only guidance from a higher order of authority is a possible personal answer. FREEDOM... The reason why America is so great.

That brings up my major point and why you, jimmy, are so wrong to include me in your little liberal foray.

WHY THE HELL SHOULD I BE PAYING FOR SOMEONE'S MISTAKES AT THE POINT OF A GUN FROM MY GOVERNMENT!

Lets read what the article really says:


Experts: Activists' Indictment Shows Disapproval of Videos

By JUAN A. LOZANO, ASSOCIATED PRESS
HOUSTON — Jan 26, 2016, 7:40 PM ET


A grand jury's decision to indict two anti-abortion activists who made undercover videos about Planned Parenthood might be less about sending someone to jail than about expressing disapproval (for ANYONE WHO DOESN’T TOW THE PC LINE ON ABORTION)

David Daleiden and Sandra Merritt are accused of using fake driver's licenses to infiltrate the nation's largest abortion provider in order to make videos that accused Planned Parenthood of illegally selling fetal tissue to researchers for profit.

Legal experts say the two are not likely to see any prison time if convicted because the accusation in this case — making a false ID card — does not typically result in incarceration, even though tampering with a government record is a felony.

"It's really (HYPOCRITICAL LIBERAL) citizens scolding what they thought was a political investigation. Look at what they indicted them on," said Ekow N. Yankah, a law professor at the Cardozo School of Law in New York. "If we're being frank," he added, "that is not a grand jury that is looking to bring the hammer down because you've done some grave, grave thing."

It is unusual for a grand jury to indict someone who was not the initial target of its investigation…Daleiden issued a statement saying his group "uses the same undercover techniques" as investigative journalists and follows all applicable laws.

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Really? All you've shown is more liberal fascism forcing it's will through corrupting the judicial system.

They dismiss the killing of babies to sell their organs, and yet find that making a fake ID to investigate that bloody activity is "criminal"?

I find it hard to miss the obvious morally hypocritical contradictions of that position.

Yep, more liberals with a separate judgment threshold for any citizen having the right of free press, speech, religion, or political opinion if it differs from the approved liberal opinion.

Hypocrisy run amok! That's what is wrong with America.

WHY THE HELL SHOULD I BE PAYING FOR SOMEONE'S MISTAKES AT THE POINT OF A GUN FROM MY GOVERNMENT!

if by "mistakes" you are referring to your tax dollars paying for abortions at PP....you're the one making a mistake.

the only tax dollars going towards abortions are in the cases of RAPE, INCEST, or cases where abortion is necessary to save the life of the mother,

only "private funds from the policyholders' own premiums" can be used to pay for abortions.

so who's "mistakes" is it you don't want to pay for???? the rapist? the person committing incest?

They dismiss the killing of babies to sell their organs, and yet find that making a fake ID to investigate that bloody activity is "criminal"?

nah. what was "dismissed" was the voracity of the video. it's as simple as this...not everyone was gullible enough to believe the video. you, on the other hand.....

you and your team were duped, but even now you guys can't admit it!

and no one needs a crystal ball to predict that instead of acknowledging that the "investigators" tried to pull a fast one.....instead, you're gonna talk about how wrong and evil abortion is.

and it's fine that you hold that opinion....but if that's the tact you take...(sidestepping the flim flam video) pls lay off your usual whining about how LIBS change the subject!!!!

WHY THE HELL SHOULD I BE PAYING FOR SOMEONE'S MISTAKES AT THE POINT OF A GUN FROM MY GOVERNMENT!

if by "mistakes" you are referring to your tax dollars paying for abortions at PP....you're the one making a mistake.

the only tax dollars going towards abortions are in the cases of RAPE, INCEST, or cases where abortion is necessary to save the life of the mother,

only "private funds from the policyholders' own premiums" can be used to pay for abortions.

so who's "mistakes" is it you don't want to pay for???? the rapist? the person committing incest?

If it weren't for the lies and deception, there would be no PP


ABORTIONS AND PLANNED PARENTHOOD FUNDING

While federal policies such as the Hyde Amendment technically forbid Planned Parenthood from spending any of the taxpayer dollars it receives on abortion, the very nature of money being fungible means federal funding still contributes to abortions by enabling them to spend a greater share of their private donations on abortion. In fact, the pro-life Susan B. Anthony List notes that between 2000 and 2013, government subsidies to Planned Parenthood increased by $326,400,000, while annual abortions performed rose by 130,583, "a 66 percent increase in the number of abortions."

The Misleading 3% Statistic

Planned Parenthood argues that it deserves its taxpayer funding because abortions comprise a miniscule share of their activities. But many conservatives and pro-lifers have argued that this number as misleading, on several levels. First, 327,653 represents roughly a third of America's approximately 1 million annual abortions. Second, Planned Parenthood’s math relies on unbundling items that are part of an overall service and counting them as entirely separate services.

National Review editor Rich Lowry analogized: The sponsors of the New York City Marathon could count each small cup of water they hand out (some 2 million cups, compared with 45,000 runners) and say they are mainly in the hydration business.

Notably, in 2013 Rachael Larimore, senior editor of the liberal Slate, even admitted that the 3% number was the "most meaningless abortion statistic ever:"

[I]t’s easy to calculate, as the Weekly Standard did, that Planned Parenthood gets at least a third of its clinic income—and more than 10 percent of all its revenue, government funding included—from its abortion procedures.

Ask anyone who runs a for-profit business or nonprofit charity if something that brings in one-third of their revenue is “central” to their endeavor, and the answer is likely to be yes. So yes, abortion is central to what Planned Parenthood does.

In addition, several contraceptives, including Plan B, Ella, and intrauterine devices, function as abortifacients. Planned Parenthood does not specify what share of this number they comprise, and given that the organization declares contraceptives comprise a third of their services, detailed numbers could potentially mean a dramatic spike in the true share of Planned Parenthood's abortion business by their own accounting standards.

The pro-life Radiance Foundation also notes that an undercover video by the Center for Medical Progress reveals Planned Parenthood's senior medical services director, Dr. Deborah Nucatola, claims "we have 40% of the [abortion] market in the whole country."

Moreover, Planned Parenthood has consistently claimed abortions comprise the same 3% of its services since 1995, even though the number of abortions they perform has tripled between then and 2015, and the organization's breast cancer exams, pap tests, and prenatal care declined by 41% to 58% between 2009 and 2013.

- See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/comm ... BFqT3.dpuf

They dismiss the killing of babies to sell their organs, and yet find that making a fake ID to investigate that bloody activity is "criminal"?

nah. what was "dismissed" was the voracity of the video. it's as simple as this...not everyone was gullible enough to believe the video. you, on the other hand.....

you and your team were duped, but even now you guys can't admit it!

and no one needs a crystal ball to predict that instead of acknowledging that the "investigators" tried to pull a fast one.....instead, you're gonna talk about how wrong and evil abortion is.

and it's fine that you hold that opinion....but if that's the tact you take...(sidestepping the flim flam video) pls lay off your usual whining about how LIBS change the subject!!!!

Hey, if you can justify infanticide for any reason then you're conscience is seared and you're an unreasonable person; but don't act like making a fake ID even compares to the blood-letting of those filthy monsters. Having a fake ID does nothing to exonerate the people and practices on those videos.

A liberal panel that is obviously made of Democrats with a political agenda doesn't think PP did anything wrong. Not much different than a Nazi court saying Dr Mengele was innocently performing genetic research, and had nothing to do with the suffering of Jews he murdered in the name of science.

This is newsworthy because....?

Again, it's only more proof of hypocrisy and a society being led straight into hell by the "progressives"





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You liberals pervert laws to justify an evil agenda. You are a CANCER to society. You justify the taking of unborn babies lives. Do you know how many woman use abortion as a form of contraception? I have seen it with my own 2 eyes. Your dumbass agenda constantly throws up a woman's body a woman's choice all while defending Hilary's criminal actions and still support her for president, comparing two people who used fake Id's to expose the selling of unborn fetal tissue. Let me ask you do you think these people should suffer harsher sentences than some kid using a fake ID to get into a bar? The sad fact is you idiots are the majority and have the media supporting your bastardized way of thinking! A Biblical comparison would be the good Old US to Sodom and Gomorrah!
This entire scenario is the same thing as the IRS bullying by this administration of conservative political groups! If you don't think like a liberal we will silence you with illegal force!

"all over the road"??????

damn... the drive on THAT road went all around the world.... at least 8 times!

A woman's body, a woman's choice. This is the law. Unless you have a vagina it's not your business.

I realize that biology is a challenging subject for you, but where there is a separate DNA there is a separate body.

There are at least two victims to every abortion; baby and mother. There are also fathers and grandparents who have their posterity stolen.

No, it's not her body that is being killed, or she wouldn't survive.

I have a Bachelor's degree in science and I could bore you for days on what I know.

Just goes to show you just because you have a degree doesn't necessarily mean you are smart! I work with PHD professors all day. It's a different kind of smart LOL!