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The Case for Inequality

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:12 pm
by Badstrat
The Case for Inequality

http://conservativeread.com/the-case-for-inequality/

September 23, 2015 chris Leave a Comment

Paul Greenberg,

Would you really like to live in a society in which all are equal that is, equally poor? Because that is the inevitable result when the goal becomes equalizing everybody’s income.

Would you really like to live in a society that sets a minimum wage for all and so discourages businesses from hiring workers because they can no longer afford to pay them the mandatory wage? In such a system, no wonder jobs for beginners grow scarce.

Also, the minimum wage has this way of becoming the maximum wage. For a society cannot put a floor under wages without the risk of making it the ceiling, too.

Would you really like to live in a society without the rich because all must be equal? A society without rich patrons of the arts, for example, or inventors and investors who’ve struck it rich and so can afford to provide jobs for the rest of us. And buy the goods and services we provide.

Would you really like to live in a society in which you have no incentive to grow rich yourself because all must remain equal? Which means taxes must be set accordingly. So some of us won’t rise too far above our neighbors. To ensure that we don’t, enact confiscatory income taxes. Or a heavy estate tax, aka the death tax.

Loot

How about a society in which all are equal before the law? Would you be in favor of that kind of equality? Of course you would. Indeed, that was the original meaning of equality and one well worth restoring. But that meaning now has been changed impoverished, you might say until now it means only a material equality, not a legal one. Even though a diversity of ideas, origins and, yes, incomes does not weaken our society but strengthens and enhances it. Because it opens up a society to different ways of thinking, acting and earning.

Yet some of our leading or at least loudest politicians have taken to railing against inequality. It’s become the grievance du jour. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and demagogues aplenty preach against inequality as if they’ve just discovered it, and are shocked shocked! And they vow to stamp it out. They feel no need to mention that, in order for everyone to be equal, at least in the material sense, no one must be allowed to have more than his neighbor. When that policy is put into effect, the practical result is that all remain equally poor. That isn’t justice; it’s envy in action.

Alexis de Tocqueville, our prescient French visitor a couple of centuries ago, described both the promise and danger of Democracy in America, the title of his two-volume masterwork. He warned against what he called democratic despotism the leveling instinct that produces a uniform, egalitarian society in which the arts, for example, would perish. And not just the arts. As he put it:

“Not only would a democratic people of this kind show neither aptitude nor taste for science, literature, or art, but it would probably never arrive at the possession of them. The law of descent would of itself provide for the destruction of large fortunes at each succeeding generation, and no new fortunes would be acquired. The poor man, without either knowledge or freedom, would not so much as conceive the idea of raising himself to wealth; and the rich man would allow himself to be degraded to poverty, without a notion of self-defense. Between these two members of the community complete and invincible equality would soon be established. No one would then have time or taste to devote himself to the pursuits or pleasures of the intellect, but all men would remain paralyzed in a state of common ignorance and equal servitude.

Churchill said it: The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. When she came along, Margaret Thatcher, the Iron Lady herself, would elaborate on his point: The statists are making a big issue out of income inequality, hoping to convince ordinary Americans that redistribution is their only hope for a better life. (T)his is horribly misguided because it falsely assumes the economy is a fixed pie. Simply stated, it doesn’t make sense or help anybody if inequality is reduced by policies that hurt everyone.

Or would you really prefer to live in a society that, in its zeal for equality, has forgotten equity? Would you really like to live in such a society, barren of individual distinction and attainment and the wealth they produce for all, because its goal has become equality, not freedom or excellence?

Think about it. Too many of us don’t.

Re: The Case for Inequality

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:51 pm
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
BillRas wrote:Eighty people hold the same amount of wealth as the world’s 3.6 billion poorest people, according to an analysis just released from Oxfam. The report from the global anti-poverty organization finds that since 2009, the wealth of those 80 richest has doubled in nominal terms — while the wealth of the poorest 50 percent of the world’s population has fallen.




so what? Do you realize that your envy is being manipulated?

The reasons why so many in this world are poor has MUCH more to do with politicians, and the political situation where they live, than it does with someone else being wealthy. You have become a perpetrator for a purely political agenda that only gives dictators more power.

I've lived a poor life, and I've lived sumptuously. Don't know about you...but I made the choice in the mid-90s that I'd rather be happy than rich. I have absolutely no envy towards the rich whatsoever. That is a fool's game....and it's how dictators have manipulated the masses since Karl Marx.

Don't be a tool for politicians and dictators by repeating this propaganda. NOTHING is keeping any of us from succeeding in life except ourselves. Envy will only make you a loser.

Re: The Case for Inequality

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 6:12 pm
by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
The same person who said "Though shall not covet"

Re: The Case for Inequality

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 7:54 pm
by Badstrat
Quit whining about who has how much money to us. Take it up with God, even though it is none of your business.
How many people would be happy with what they have if they weren't always comparing what they have with what their brother has?

1Sa 2:7 Our LORD, you are the one who makes us rich or poor. You put some in high positions and bring disgrace on others.

Re: The Case for Inequality

PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 11:06 pm
by Badstrat
Let me remind you that the Nazi death camp photo you posted to correct me was a product of a Socialist society. (Really bad example on your behalf) On the other hand I guess that they were pretty much steeped in equality, as are the citizens of most socialist regimes, if that was your point. So was that your endorsement for a Socialist/ Communist/ Marxist regime? That is where you hope we are headed? Show me a Socialist or Marxist, or Communist society that didn't murder millions of its citizens. Show me one where all citizens prosper. Can't can you? They all still have some wealthier than others, even if someone owns one cow someone else is going to own two cows. Where does your equality utopia Socialist crap end? When the gestapo break into a house and discover that one guy has two sets of chopsticks and his neighbor only has one set of chopsticks? OOPS One year at hard labor for him. That's your vision of equality?

When we get the regime you support perhaps you can become a genuine bona fide Brown Shirt and we will actually meet at a concentration camp. Me being on the inside of the barbed wire naturally.. You do know that is where people who don't believe the lies and PC bullshit are headed, don't you? So you better continue gobbling up all the propagandist crap they are feeding you or we both may meet on the inside of the barbed wire fence.

Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsɪz(ə)m/; alternatively spelled Naziism), or National Socialism

I won't even comment on your last post lest I appear as foolish as you.

Re: The Case for Inequality

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:19 am
by MikeTalbot
I was surprised recently when I was doing a financial and personal inventory - yeah I'm broke as a church mouse and live on very edge of extinction - but I do I want anything or lack something? No.

That was a real revelation.

The things , objects, guitars and so on that I want, I have. Getting a billion dollars tomorrow would of course change my life, but I don't have some checklist of things I want to buy. Zero. Nothing. I'd just keep doing what I do and maybe ask for more toppings on my pizza.

I'm very pleased by that and consider it a rare blessing.

Talbot

Re: The Case for Inequality

PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:50 am
by Badstrat
Talbot,

Same here. I have need for nothing. I actually don't have any desire for anything I do not have. I keep my eyes on my blessings and haven't any envy for what others have. God supplies everything I need, and most of the time blesses me with things that I didn't even know I would want until he gave them to me.

bill, long boring history lessons from the past have little to do with your envy or your cockeyed idea that Socialism will be the cure. Only the fools of this world have those visions of grandeur. Utopia only flourishes in the minds of the insane, it has no place in the real world.

Jesus said the poor will always be with you. Dig into your own pocket and give to the poor instead of thinking everyone else should give their wages to crooked politicians who will mismanage and squander it You act like a greedy little brat always whining about what god gave to someone else. I have little money, yet I always have enough to give to someone else that I see who is in need, and I never miss it.

Billionaires? Multimillionaires? I neither give a rats ass what they do with their money or how much they have. It is none of my business, if it were I would have authority over them. If you were less of a busybody and spent your misdirected concerns on your own life you wouldn't be bitching about the wealthy. I couldn't care less if God gave all the wealth in the world to one person. It is none of my business, it is none of yours.You have your nose where it doesn't belong. I'm sure the God that you do not believe in would make it your business if he wanted it that way. Your just a nosy little fool who says there is not God, miserable and envying those who God has blessed.

Liberals always have their noses where they do not belong and they are always trying to rule over someone. All they ever do is make other peoples lives miserable with their "lofty" foolishness. Every liberal run city or state is in turmoil because liberals have proven their inability to rule with any common sense or responsibility. They gouge the working class, squander the money they pilfered, and leave every city and state they gain control over in debt..

Don't take my word for it. Just dig up something from 2,000 years ago stick a moronic caption on it and post it as you usually do. Make sure it is something that has nothing to do with the problems at hand, the problems facing civilization today. Or aren't you brilliant enough to understand that every generation has their own problems that aren't likely to be solved by pasting a picture of some dead president from years past with some stupid irrelevant saying on it or blaming Bush every time it rains on your parade.

This is America. Want to have money? Go get it. This is a free country, unfortunately far less free than it was before liberals began destroying it. You still have the right to go out and make your millions, then you can share with the poor. Or is it that those of your ilk have absolutely nothing, not a drop of creativity, to give that society would buy. Perhaps this accounts for your hostility towards the successful of this world who have earned and accumulated their wealth.

Have you been appointed master of the rich? Are you appointed to judge them as to how they accumulated their wealth? I doubt it or you would have been given the authority. to mismanage them, as liberals do. So here you are, a little nothing busybody complaining about how unfair the world is and how you have decided that the wealthy need to have their money taken from them. Little little man, it is none of your business. You would be better off paying attention to how those you support are destroying jobs and the middle class in America. This regime is driving America into the poor house. America is generous. America comes to the need of impoverished nations. After you and your ilk have destroyed America, what will they do then?

I know way to save America. Tell liberals to mind their own business and quit screwing up everyone else's lives with their stupidity.