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#246284 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:54 pm
LOL C'mon...we know you're a Hillary fan.


I thought Walker and Rubio stood out as most Presidential, but liked what I heard about Carly Fiorina in the earlier debate. Cruz didn't hurt himself yet...but it's only a matter of time. Bush seemed nervous and unprepared. His stance on Common Core is going to kill him in the primaries. NOBODY wants it on the right.

Trump's fans stayed about the same, but his negatives went way up because now most people see that he's a bully with nothing more than ridicule and criticism. That is no better than what we've got already except he comes across as crudely crass.

It is refreshing to see someone upset the political applecart, but he is going to help those whom he claims to oppose if he doesn't drop out...and soon. I wonder if this is why Hillary doesn't seem to care that no one is passionate about supporting her?


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#246288 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:08 am
Is that legal?

It certainly doesn't seem ethical nor honest, so I'm a bit surprised. :o

Do they pay you to do that? Surely you aren't a willing tool for politicians? :shock:
#246341 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:32 am
Yeah, yeah, yeah... Three days later everyone on all sides are trying to figure it out. Three days later all the professional pollsters, politicians, and sheep still don't get it...

He just basically told all the people that want to destroy America... FCU!
#246346 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:21 am
angelsshotgun wrote:Yeah, yeah, yeah... Three days later everyone on all sides are trying to figure it out. Three days later all the professional pollsters, politicians, and sheep still don't get it...

He just basically told all the people that want to destroy America... FCU!




I think we will need a President who isn't so crass for the nation to recover ( if we get the chance for another President )

Haven't you had enough of a petulant ridiculing bully yet? No matter what you think, you don't really know how he would run the country. He's never run a State, or worked in the Senate, there is no track record except TV shows where he was the boss. I don't want another dictator, not even if he is closer to being American than the other candidate.


I'd probably vote for him over Hillary but that ain't saying much
#246352 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:59 am
Ted, even you don't get it. Trump is another wake up call. He runs a corporation that is larger than most countries in the world or for that matter states in America. On top of that his bankruptcy experience (similar to MACY'S) will be very useful if it comes down to America pulling the plug on 18 trillion in unsustainable debt.

I am tired of all the professional leaders that are hell bent on moving America forward. I'm tired of all the constitutional values being violated and systematically destroyed. Bernie Sanders is so far down the track to a total socialist nation... Hillary is just a lawless elitist...

Then there is the control factor... Trust us... we know what is best. As a FREE MAN I don't trust any one spewing all the same hateful rhetoric that is being spoon fed to all the sheep.

Then there is the question of Israel... Who's side are you on Ted? Is your faith that strong that some one will be able to follow or create a bigger plan? This world has reached a level of insanity that surreal. SHAME! Not on you Ted... I hope every one starts to get his wake up message, even if it falls on deaf ears. We don't need professional politicians!
#246366 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:27 pm
angelsshotgun wrote:Ted, even you don't get it. Trump is another wake up call. He runs a corporation that is larger than most countries in the world or for that matter states in America. On top of that his bankruptcy experience (similar to MACY'S) will be very useful if it comes down to America pulling the plug on 18 trillion in unsustainable debt.

I am tired of all the professional leaders that are hell bent on moving America forward. I'm tired of all the constitutional values being violated and systematically destroyed. Bernie Sanders is so far down the track to a total socialist nation... Hillary is just a lawless elitist...

Then there is the control factor... Trust us... we know what is best. As a FREE MAN I don't trust any one spewing all the same hateful rhetoric that is being spoon fed to all the sheep.

Then there is the question of Israel... Who's side are you on Ted? Is your faith that strong that some one will be able to follow or create a bigger plan? This world has reached a level of insanity that surreal. SHAME! Not on you Ted... I hope every one starts to get his wake up message, even if it falls on deaf ears. We don't need professional politicians!


I'm tired of politicians too, but I'm more wary of dictators. I'm sorry but he's just not Presidential material. We'd be in a World War of belligerence within a month. I can not in good conscience support a bully, even if he's on "my" side.

But it's moot. He will either win the GOP or he won't run.


BREAKING: Ohio Makes Announcement That Should Put Trump 3rd Party Fears to Rest Permanently - Conservative Tribune

According to "sore loser" laws in the state of Ohio, any candidate who has chosen their party essentially can't, at the last minute, run on a third-party ticket in the state. With Ohio being a crucial swing state, that's a massive hurdle for team Trump to overcome, should they wish to run a third-party candidacy in the future.

Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted and his spokesman, Joshua Eck, have already decided that due to the fact Trump "voluntarily participated" in the Republican primary debate in the state of Ohio, he's already declared himself a Republican in the eyes of Ohio law and "chosen a party for this election cycle."

Legal experts said that mounting a third-party run is a daunting, close-to-impossible, expensive challenge, according to USA Today. Trump, should he proceed with his third-party option, would likely have to challenge laws like Ohio's "sore loser" law in court, mount massive grassroots campaigns in all 50 states to get on the ballot and spend even more of his own money in a process that political experts believe would hand the election to Democrats on a silver platter. (Read more)
#246367 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Aug 11, 2015 9:31 pm
TheFarleys wrote:
yod wrote:Is that legal?

It certainly doesn't seem ethical nor honest, so I'm a bit surprised. :o

Do they pay you to do that? Surely you aren't a willing tool for politicians? :shock:


That's pretty funny, of course it's legal. I'm not a registered Democrat, I'm a registered Republican. Of course I still vote for who I want. So naive.




YOU ARE A REPUBLICAN????????


That's not only a surprise but extremely funny.






Apparently it IS illegal in Ohio to vote for one party primary, then the other party in the general election, and Im pretty sure its the same in Texas. Thought it was like that everywhere?

Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted and his spokesman, Joshua Eck, have already decided that due to the fact Trump "voluntarily participated" in the Republican primary debate in the state of Ohio, he's already declared himself a Republican in the eyes of Ohio law and "chosen a party for this election cycle."
#246371 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Tue Aug 11, 2015 10:40 pm
I'm wary of dictators also. The problem is we are reaching a point, where all we have is dictators that are too chickenshoot to step out of the shadows and state the real goal. Destroy the law in the name of law. Our nation is a nation of law... I understand how the tools of distortion are so important, to all these dictators.

This is such a small POV of what is going on worldwide. China just manipulated their currency again... In a way to destabilize world markets, to their advantage. Isis is waiting for iran to resupply them in their battle against the west, and Israel. On a local front, you CAN NOT SMOKE a pipe or cigar on a local beach, however it is OK to burn all sorts of wood in an open pit fire. On a state front connecticut DMV is SHUT DOWN to do computer upgrades. This list goes on and on including OUR EPA just becoming the biggest polluter our nation has seen in ages. (THEY WERE ENFORCING THEIR ILEGAL POWERS)

Afraid of a dictator... This ain't germany... We still have our GUNS!
#246392 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:56 pm
angelsshotgun wrote:I'm wary of dictators also. The problem is we are reaching a point, where all we have is dictators that are too chickenshoot to step out of the shadows and state the real goal. Destroy the law in the name of law. Our nation is a nation of law... I understand how the tools of distortion are so important, to all these dictators.

This is such a small POV of what is going on worldwide. China just manipulated their currency again... In a way to destabilize world markets, to their advantage. Isis is waiting for iran to resupply them in their battle against the west, and Israel. On a local front, you CAN NOT SMOKE a pipe or cigar on a local beach, however it is OK to burn all sorts of wood in an open pit fire. On a state front connecticut DMV is SHUT DOWN to do computer upgrades. This list goes on and on including OUR EPA just becoming the biggest polluter our nation has seen in ages. (THEY WERE ENFORCING THEIR ILEGAL POWERS)

Afraid of a dictator... This ain't germany... We still have our GUNS!



America is way past Germany. We've executed more of our own children since 1973 than all the people who died in WWII because of Hitler. There is no conscience, no moral compass remaining in America apparently.

Which is why we must be even more vigilant about who represents the best answer. I certainly don't hate Trump; he has made many uncomfortable issues unavoidable for the candidates on every side. Kudos! He has spoken "from the hip" and forming a national consensus on what is wrong with us today. But his answer is responding with the same kind of belligerence we expect from the Left. I don't want the mirror image of Obama, with less tact. He's nearly as narcissistic as Barak...and that ought to make you worry about who's side he's really on.

He has a legitimate chance of being the GOP nominee...but I don't think he'll be able to sustain that over time because his negatives are way too high. What he does when someone else gets the nod will determine whether he was ever patriotic or simply ego-maniacal.

According to your list of reason why you support him, Ted Cruz is your alternative. I'd vote for him, mainly because no one in Washington would work with him. A big wrench in the wheels of government for a few years might help us find our center again.

But I'm liking Carly more and more, actually. She has addressed the "Trump issues" but with a lot more class.
#246419 by MikeTalbot
Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:56 pm
Glen

You mention our guns and then a long string of assaults on freedom. Seems our guns haven't done us much good. We certainly haven't protected the unborn.

The real question is always, 'who you gonna shoot?' I'm all for being armed but that question is a good one. Everything is coming undone.

Talbot
#246424 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:44 am
MikeTalbot wrote:Glen

You mention our guns and then a long string of assaults on freedom. Seems our guns haven't done us much good. We certainly haven't protected the unborn.

The real question is always, 'who you gonna shoot?' I'm all for being armed but that question is a good one. Everything is coming undone.

Talbot




I don't own a gun. Don't want to shoot anyone. War is something that overtakes the weak.


But you'll know when you must. Pray it never comes.

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