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Right-To-Carry Gun Laws Linked To Rise In Violent Crimes

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:39 pm
by GuitarMikeB
This one should be sure to drum up some of the usual suspects here! Cutting and pasting from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/1 ... 60414.html

Laws in all 50 states permitting people to carry concealed firearms in public have been connected to a rise in violent crimes, according to a new report from researchers at Stanford and Johns Hopkins universities.

The report, published in September and issued as a National Bureau of Economic Research Working Paper last week, adds to a series of studies over the last decade tending to discredit the "more guns, less crime" hypothesis, which argues that right-to-carry laws serve as crime deterrents by allowing ordinary Americans to better protect themselves.

The new findings suggest that right-to-carry laws are "associated with substantially higher rates" of aggravated assault, rape and robbery, Stanford law professor John J. Donohue III, one of the study’s three authors, explained in a press release on Friday. Stanford law student Abhay Aneja and Johns Hopkins doctoral student Alexandria Zhang co-authored the report.

Among violent crimes, the most significant increase came in aggravated assault, which may have risen by nearly 33 percent, according to the report. The researchers also found that from 1999 to 2010, murder rates rose in eight states that adopted right-to-carry laws.

In 2012, there were nearly 9,000 firearm homicides in the United States. A year earlier, more than 21 percent of an estimated 751,131 aggravated assaults in the nation were committed with firearms.

A decade ago, the National Research Council found "no credible evidence" associating concealed-carry laws with either a drop or a rise in violent crimes. It cited weak research models and a lack of sufficient data at the time.

While the NRC panel relied on county-level crime data from 1977 to 2000, the latest report used data from 1979 to 2010, covering an additional 10 years in which right-to-carry laws expanded and adding a net six more years of county and state records.

The report also "corrected a number of flaws in the data" with new statistical methods, Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, told The Huffington Post.

Based on the new research, Webster concluded that "right-to-carry laws increase firearm-related assaults" -- though he noted that "the exact magnitude of that effect is uncertain."

Re: Right-To-Carry Gun Laws Linked To Rise In Violent Crimes

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 4:16 pm
by Vampier
Mike ... who is a naughty boy then.

Re: Right-To-Carry Gun Laws Linked To Rise In Violent Crimes

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:31 am
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
There you go again... We allow you freedom of speech without censorship and right away you come up with all sorts of nonsense. You should just be happy your BS is included under protected speech.

DO YOU WANT TO CENSOR ME AGAIN?

Thanks buddy.

Re: Right-To-Carry Gun Laws Linked To Rise In Violent Crimes

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 12:39 pm
by GuitarMikeB
angelsshotgun wrote:There you go again... We allow you freedom of speech without censorship and right away you come up with all sorts of nonsense. You should just be happy your BS is included under protected speech.

DO YOU WANT TO CENSOR ME AGAIN?

Thanks buddy.


So Slacker can cut and paste from Huffington and everywhere else, and its no issue, but then I do the same and it's "all sorts of nonsense"? Nice one-way street you live on. :roll:

Re: Right-To-Carry Gun Laws Linked To Rise In Violent Crimes

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:12 pm
by Planetguy
TheFarleys wrote:Mike, please refrain from teasing the court jester.


awwwww, but ya gotta admit ....he IS cute when he tries to sidestep a subject he can't speak to or rebut by never addressing the subject at hand that's been brought to light....but instead does a 180....

for those who haven't been paying attention, it goes like this:

1. praise god
2. praise USA
3. attack poster w the ridicule that libs get accused of
4. never, NEVER address the subject or points raised if you don't have a leg to stand on w a opposing view or argument
5. cross yer fingers and hope that no one notices that you're trying to deflect 'cos that's all ya got

glen, you used to better at this but, damn.....that was a piss poor, very weak, and embarrassing attempt to sidestep. :oops:

we're gonna have to start calling you Angel's Sidestep. :lol:

Re: Right-To-Carry Gun Laws Linked To Rise In Violent Crimes

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:50 pm
by DainNobody
maybe the right wing think tank that pays Slacker and Glennie to post and get paid by the word published, has a contest to see who can spread the most mis-information this month? :o

Re: Right-To-Carry Gun Laws Linked To Rise In Violent Crimes

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:00 pm
by Planetguy
maybe....and what do you suppose the prize(s) might be?

Re: Right-To-Carry Gun Laws Linked To Rise In Violent Crimes

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 2:20 pm
by Planetguy
i understand the winner of the prestigious "Best Disseminator of Misinformation" award will rcv a fully framed and matted autographed copy of a Joseph Goebbels limited edition print!

runnerups will rcv a spelling primer explaining proper sp. of "discourage"!

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Re: Right-To-Carry Gun Laws Linked To Rise In Violent Crimes

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:39 am
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Where did all you guys come up with these "NONSENSE TRUTHS"?
That comment about guns was the stupidest liberal argument any one has ever presented... DUH... I'm so stupid I don't know where my gun is. THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID...

The real reason for the rise in violent crimes is simple. It is the liberal philosophy that government is so important we must prove it... Instead of allowing everyone to become wealthy we must make sure that everyone remains poor...

Then there is true reason for government control... Hence and therefore the reason for the 2nd amendment and the LAW>>> If you don't like it... Go fuuuuuckn stuff yourself... After you shoot yourself with a stolen gun with ammo that is known by the state of california to contain known carcinogens. WARNING, LEAD IS A MAJOR HEALTH HAZARD.... Damn Right IT Is! :lol:

Re: Right-To-Carry Gun Laws Linked To Rise In Violent Crimes

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 1:42 am
by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sorry man. I feel real bad for you. Just remember when you are lying, bleeding on the ground,because you mouthed off to the wrong person... CALL 911. They will be there in a few minutes. It won't be a legal gun that punched you down... It will be a an illegal gun acquired by a desperate a-hole that is government supported because A-HOLES like you supported legalized theft to the point that... That even the poorest had no hope or aspiration to rise above anything more than government handouts... YEAH YOU REALLY GOT IT RIGHT!!!

Re: Right-To-Carry Gun Laws Linked To Rise In Violent Crimes

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:12 am
by MikeTalbot
PG

I was unamused to hear that two German cops were busted (they were working some big political thing or the other) for playing Geobbels' famous speech, "Do you want total war?"

I really wish they'd get over that. They are way too good at war to be getting into that crap again.

Talbot