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#240932 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Tue Mar 24, 2015 8:23 pm
Pat is a famously anti-semitic idiot



Did anyone think Bibi, who opposed Ariel Sharon withdrawal of Israeli settlers from Gaza, was going to withdraw tens of thousands of Jewish settlers from Judea and Samaria, share Jerusalem with a Palestinian state, or allow the return of Arab refugees to what Bibi says is the "Jewish state"?

That's the real Bibi. We have clarity now.



That's right. You do.

Did you hear that the people of Israel overwhelmingly voted to survive for another few years?


:wink:



How I wish we had a leader that thought of someone besides himself.
#240941 by Badstrat
Tue Mar 24, 2015 11:15 pm
Have you ever considered why all those Arab states don't give the "Palestinians" a sliver of land?

The land that Israel inhabits was given to them by the God of creation. Drives ya nuts doesn't it? Naturally those who do not understand the God of Israel can't comprehend that fact. Here are some facts about the Palestinians. Look up when the Palestinians came into existence in history books. (Not in the demoncrat revised history books. Naturally, their history originates in la la land. Remember Mrs potus declaring from the podium "We will have to re write history? A few years from now the new history books will probably say that George Washington was a terrorist and potus is the father of his country.



A Palestinian Arab State / A Palestinian Arab People? They Never Existed!

http://www.jpost.com/Blogs/Israel-Uncen ... ted-364635


Prime Minister Netanyahu is being pressured from all sides, and especially the Obama Administration, to restart peace talks and give up Judea and Samaria for a Palestinian state. The pleas come shrouded in willful ignorance that there is no true Arab Palestinian people, and the Arabs making the demands are less interested in land and peace than they are that Israel has no right to exist. Let’s get real. These four facts lend clarity to what is clouded by politics and emotion.

Fact 1: There is no such thing as an Arab “Palestinian.” Before Israel’s statehood in 1948, the name "Palestinian" meant a Jewish person living in that land, not an Arab. The word Palestinian became associated with Arabs only later, when Yasser Arafat artificially created a new so-called nation of Arab "Palestinians," many of whom came from and have direct relatives in neighboring countries, such as Jordan or Egypt. By 1948 enough Jewish people had returned to the land to establish the modern Jewish state of Israel. So all the world should know that there never was a "Palestinian Arab" state, nor even a "Palestinian Arab" people. They should know that all the Arabs living in the Israeli territories came from neighboring Arab states.

Fact 2: There is no opportunity for peace without Israel’s recognized right to exist. Israel has offered at least three times some 97 percent of Judea and Samaria (the West Bank) to the Arabs, and each time the Arabs have refused. Netanyahu concludes that the Israeli-Arab conflict is not about real estate, but rather about the explicit right of a Jewish state to exist. "It is over our existence in any borders whatsoever," he stressed.

Fact 3: Jewish settlers have greatly improved their traditional land of Judea and Samaria. Arabs claim that the Jews have stolen their land when in reality the Jewish people who have built beautiful homes and thriving communities in the areas known as Judea and Samaria have simply rebuilt the towns and villages of their forefathers. The international community also calls these settlers, "occupiers," and charges them with being obstacles to peace by seizing land that belongs to the so-called "Palestinian Arabs." They obviously blind themselves to the fact that there never was a "Palestinian Arab" state on that land. The original idea of a "Palestinian Arab" state only arose in 1993 with the Oslo Accords. Prior to that the land was basically undeveloped swamp land until Jewish people started returning to the land around 1900 in the Zionist movement.

Fact 4: True and lasting peace between Israel and the Arabs is unachievable until the Arabs agree to become a legitimate partner for peace. Netanyahu has pointed to the hostile rhetoric of Hamas, coupled with "Palestinian Arab" leader Mahmoud Abbas'' efforts to reconcile with the terrorist group, as the primary reason that such peace is simply not possible. Last summer in Gaza Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal spoke to thousands of Gazans declaring that "Palestine is our land and nation, from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River, from the north to the south, and we will not cede one inch of it." He went on to insist that political, diplomatic and legal efforts to achieve control of the land "must be coupled with violence." He stressed that all non-violent methods are "senseless."

Clearly those calling themselves "Arab Palestinians" want to take and take but are unwilling to give. Without a rational, realistic and fair peace partner, any rational mind should understand there is no hope for a successful and peaceful two-state solution which makes continued peace talks simply a "senseless" waste of time.
#240944 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:23 am
Don't forget that as of this date, since OBAMA CARE.... 03/24/15... 11 million less people have health insurance. 11 million less than all those claimed to be covered 7 years ago.

I bring this up because the lies are so out of control, and we are over run with sheep. BAAAH, BBBBBAAAAAHHH, BBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH.

America is in deep doo doo. I actually witnessed a young American , filling out a NIC's check in a gun store.... He wanted a shotgun.

HE DIDN'T KNOW WHERE HE WAS BORN.

You can't make this stuff up... God help us all.
#240945 by DainNobody
Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:37 am
Badstrat wrote:Have you ever considered why all those Arab states don't give the "Palestinians" a sliver of land?

The land that Israel inhabits was given to them by the God of creation. Drives ya nuts doesn't it? Naturally those who do not understand the God of Israel can't comprehend that fact. Here are some facts about the Palestinians. Look up when the Palestinians came into existence in history books. (Not in the demoncrat revised history books. Naturally, their history originates in la la land. Remember Mrs potus declaring from the podium "We will have to re write history? A few years from now the new history books will probably say that George Washington was a terrorist and potus is the father of his country.



A Palestinian Arab State / A Palestinian Arab People? They Never Existed!

http://www.jpost.com/Blogs/Israel-Uncen ... ted-364635


Prime Minister Netanyahu is being pressured from all sides, and especially the Obama Administration, to restart peace talks and give up Judea and Samaria for a Palestinian state. The pleas come shrouded in willful ignorance that there is no true Arab Palestinian people, and the Arabs making the demands are less interested in land and peace than they are that Israel has no right to exist. Let’s get real. These four facts lend clarity to what is clouded by politics and emotion.

Fact 1: There is no such thing as an Arab “Palestinian.” Before Israel’s statehood in 1948, the name "Palestinian" meant a Jewish person living in that land, not an Arab. The word Palestinian became associated with Arabs only later, when Yasser Arafat artificially created a new so-called nation of Arab "Palestinians," many of whom came from and have direct relatives in neighboring countries, such as Jordan or Egypt. By 1948 enough Jewish people had returned to the land to establish the modern Jewish state of Israel. So all the world should know that there never was a "Palestinian Arab" state, nor even a "Palestinian Arab" people. They should know that all the Arabs living in the Israeli territories came from neighboring Arab states.

Fact 2: There is no opportunity for peace without Israel’s recognized right to exist. Israel has offered at least three times some 97 percent of Judea and Samaria (the West Bank) to the Arabs, and each time the Arabs have refused. Netanyahu concludes that the Israeli-Arab conflict is not about real estate, but rather about the explicit right of a Jewish state to exist. "It is over our existence in any borders whatsoever," he stressed.

Fact 3: Jewish settlers have greatly improved their traditional land of Judea and Samaria. Arabs claim that the Jews have stolen their land when in reality the Jewish people who have built beautiful homes and thriving communities in the areas known as Judea and Samaria have simply rebuilt the towns and villages of their forefathers. The international community also calls these settlers, "occupiers," and charges them with being obstacles to peace by seizing land that belongs to the so-called "Palestinian Arabs." They obviously blind themselves to the fact that there never was a "Palestinian Arab" state on that land. The original idea of a "Palestinian Arab" state only arose in 1993 with the Oslo Accords. Prior to that the land was basically undeveloped swamp land until Jewish people started returning to the land around 1900 in the Zionist movement.

Fact 4: True and lasting peace between Israel and the Arabs is unachievable until the Arabs agree to become a legitimate partner for peace. Netanyahu has pointed to the hostile rhetoric of Hamas, coupled with "Palestinian Arab" leader Mahmoud Abbas'' efforts to reconcile with the terrorist group, as the primary reason that such peace is simply not possible. Last summer in Gaza Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal spoke to thousands of Gazans declaring that "Palestine is our land and nation, from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River, from the north to the south, and we will not cede one inch of it." He went on to insist that political, diplomatic and legal efforts to achieve control of the land "must be coupled with violence." He stressed that all non-violent methods are "senseless."

Clearly those calling themselves "Arab Palestinians" want to take and take but are unwilling to give. Without a rational, realistic and fair peace partner, any rational mind should understand there is no hope for a successful and peaceful two-state solution which makes continued peace talks simply a "senseless" waste of time.

although I am 59 years of age and beginning to suffer the onsets of senility, I can remember from high school history class, that the region comprising Israel and/or as the Romans named it Palestine has been in several civilizations control, I guess it depends how far you want to go back in time? Israel is only a nation because of some superpower arrangements made in 1947? maybe the Bible has predicted the re-birth of an Israel, but ancient Israelites had an upper and lower Kingdom known as JUDAH and ISRAEL? and one of the rulers and warriors stole the land from the CANAANITES, a related tribe/relatives of the Phonecians and Carthaginians?.. you go back further Assyrians and sh*t owned the land..? it's a toss up who is the rightful owner but I would say the Ottoman Turks are the true owners.. Israelites need a home but it should be bargained for once again with a different administrative council deciding how to rightfully split it up..
#240950 by MikeTalbot
Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:55 am
Whoa Glen - you've gone too far this time! Are you sayin' a man should actually have to know where he was born - just to buy a gun? :D

OK - maybe crew served weapons... 8)

But all kiddin' aside - I hear exactly what you're saying.

Talbot
#240952 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:03 am
Mike felt bad about going off topic. Badstrat put some effort into the topic. I apologize for being as ridiculous in going off the concentration of the point being made. I was trying to make a point also... It would never be understood... Oh well.
#240955 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:12 am
Dragging this further off topic... Just take me out and shoot me... I can't imagine that some young American doesn't even know where he was born, who his parents are, and even if he knows how to breathe.

Where do you live? Young American... Let me show you, its on my GPS... Thats how I get home.

DDDDUUUUUHHHHH!!!!!!!

It's NOT FUNNY.
#240961 by DainNobody
Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:52 am
it's a Communist plot for world domination.. you blind bat 8)
#241001 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Mar 25, 2015 4:56 pm
I would say the Ottoman Turks are the true owners.. Israelites need a home but it should be bargained for once again with a different administrative council deciding how to rightfully split it up..




That land was bought from the Ottoman's at an exorbitant price when it was nothing but desert and swamp wasteland. Jews returned from all over the world to work the land and make it the beautiful gardens and farmlands that it is now.

It was paid for and then improved upon. The Arabs attacked Israel the moment they declared a State and were defeated several times since then.

How dare anyone "wonder" about who the rightful owner is?




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#241004 by DainNobody
Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:14 pm
yod wrote:
I would say the Ottoman Turks are the true owners.. Israelites need a home but it should be bargained for once again with a different administrative council deciding how to rightfully split it up..




That land was bought from the Ottoman's at an exorbitant price when it was nothing but desert and swamp wasteland. Jews returned from all over the world to work the land and make it the beautiful gardens and farmlands that it is now.

It was paid for and then improved upon. The Arabs attacked Israel the moment they declared a State and were defeated several times since then.

How dare anyone "wonder" about who the rightful owner is?




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1948. In what is known as the Nakba, or "Catastrophe", hundreds of Palestinian villages and over 70,000 Palestinian homes were ruined and destroyed . 700,000 Palestinians fled or were driven from their native land by the Israelis. The Palestinian refugees were unable to return following the Lausanne Conference, 1949. During and after the 1948 war, a wave of Jewish refugees from Arab countries arrived in Palestine, further exacerbating the situation for Palestinian Arabs. The question of the right to return of the refugeees and their descendants remains a source of dispute. The All-Palestinian Government was later moved from Gaza to Cairo and eventually dissolved in 1959 by Egyptian President Nasser. Gaza was taken into Egyptian military administration.
#241006 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:33 pm
1948. In what is known as the Nakba, or "Catastrophe", hundreds of Palestinian villages and over 70,000 Palestinian homes were ruined and destroyed .


Get your info from Hamas often?


700,000 Palestinians fled or were driven from their native land by the Israelis.


They fled because the Arab nations who were invading Israel told them to join their attack so the Jews could be "driven into the sea".

Israel, however, told all Arabs that those who remained would be integrated into the only free democratic society in the middle east. Those Arabs who stayed STILL receive equal treatment and the right to vote. Do you not know that Israeli Arabs are 20% of the population?



The Palestinian refugees were unable to return following the Lausanne Conference, 1949. During and after the 1948 war, a wave of Jewish refugees from Arab countries arrived in Palestine, further exacerbating the situation for Palestinian Arabs.


Revisionist bullshirt from the mouth of terrorists!

Jews were banished from the surrounding nations where they had lived for millennia. They didn't just "arrive in Israel".

Arabs who deserted the tiny nation in it's civil war were no longer considered citizens and lost all rights to citizenship.

Duh?



The question of the right to return of the refugeees and their descendants remains a source of dispute. The All-Palestinian Government was later moved from Gaza to Cairo and eventually dissolved in 1959 by Egyptian President Nasser. Gaza was taken into Egyptian military administration.



Arab nations, who could absorb the entire arabs-who-call-themselves-palestinian population have not done so because their misery provides a political weapon against the Jews.

Basically, the entire situation is racial bigotry endorsed by the UN....and you?


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#241031 by schmedidiah
Thu Mar 26, 2015 2:57 am
What Yod said. And please go on the record as condemning suicide bombers and rocket attacks on Israel. That would be a very commendable thing to do.

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