General Chat (Non-Music-Related)

....Scotty... I thank you for your Post. It is good to hear from you. I was a bit concerned because of the "sting" episode and the absence. I am not certain if that could be Vinny's girlfriend as I thought she had a ZZ top beard ... perhaps she shaved ....her beard that is ?

Ta Live Well Die Well

SHe has ZZ top's beard in her undies. lol

????does anyone know why Fukushima/nuclear power/thermoniclear war in the Mid-East are not "election" issues ? These are the real and present threats to not only "Merica" but also the rest of the world and planet.

Now the GMO "scientists have pulled aside the curtain and admitted that they intend to kill huge numbers of "useless eaters".

Happy Equinox ... the autumn of 2012 has arrived.

Yod ... will Post something today ... had a weekend with my Beautiful Wife and we "blocked" out the noise of Israel and the rest of the World.

The garret is tightening now at an alarming rate ... still relatively few seem to be aware of it... or even care.



Live Well Die Well Ta

it seems that most people are just resigned to whatever fate hands them, without much resistance or thought.

That's why we need people like MLK, william wallace, etc.. (there's better examples I know, just can't think of them at the moment). They / we need people to inspire the uninspired into physically and mentally supporting the change that is needed to improve their own lives.

Without that figurehead, most people just seem to give up and walk into the ovens pathetically and willingly.

Yes, Happy belated Equinox everyone!

Happy Yom Kippur! let the War begin!

...Kramer thank you for your Posts ... I can not fault what you relate in them. Happy to hear of your enjoyable gig.

Etu Lives ....Mis your Posts both here and elswhere. Have you been well ? Busy I hope with your Great Dark Work,

Mike Talbot ... excellent remark re John Carpenter. Thank You. Excellent Posts elsewhere as well. Your links were very enlightening.

Dane ... Do you know that Israel now at this moment recieves the highest level of "foreign aid it ever has from the US (Obama) ? Also that Netanyahu has been warning that Iran was months away from having a nuclear bomb since way back in 1992 ? Interesting facts to ponder.

Ta Live Well Die Well

Just a matter of coincidence, I was listening to news radio while driving home yesterday and they read a brief story that the Israeli mass media was pushing extremely hard for their government to strike Iran with everything they have.

It's hard to stomach that our national mouthpieces who are supposed to be objective have turned into the biggest war cheerleaders there are. We should be reminded of how our own news agencies cheer-lead the US into a war in Iraq over 9/11, terrorism, and nuclear warheads- three things Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with.

Iraq over 9/11, terrorism, and nuclear warheads- three things Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with.

1. There is classified evidence that agents for Iraq helped with planning the OKC bombing

2. Saddam involved with terrorism? Oh no, not possible for that saintly old softy. But wait....he was paying 25k to families of suicide bombers, killing hundreds of thousands of Kurds with nerve gas, and imposing his will on the Persian Gulf.

3. Where do you think Iran got so many nuclear centrifuges so fast? (answer: they left Iraq in a hurry)




It's easy to forget what we were dealing with now that the world has been changed, but no one "rushed" into a war with Iraq. They were given 17 ultimatums by the UN to inspect their nuclear facilities.

In Texas, folks only get one ultimatum. He was past due for action, and if we had done nothing at all, it would have empowered him to whatever he wanted.

Bush did exactly what was needed at the time. The USA gained the respect and fear of muslim enemies and they kept their heads very low until Obama came in kissing their behinds.




Peace is not achieved by kissing someone's behind. It is achieved by making them fear that you really mean what you say.

Iran is very serious problem. Israel is the only nation taking them seriously.

I think the war will start in the next 2 weeks...while I'm in Israel with a television crew.





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1. "classified evidence" ?? - of an attack in america, by americans, 8 years prior to our invasion? Notably, it was also never cited as a reason to invade when it was sold via propaganda to the american people.

2. He had nothing to do with 9/11, nor did he have anything to do with al-queda, in fact, they were afraid to go near iraq before we disposed of saddam regime. He tolerated them less than we do.

3. Conjecture. Others say Syria got them. No credible evidence shows that he ever had them, or that they were moved. Moving something that large and dangerous would have left a trail. And why didn't saddam hitch a ride to such a safe haven as his WMD's? It's fantasy even more than conjecture.

At the time, iraq was working with the inspectors, and if you remember Joe wilson whistleblowing the whole rush to war scam..
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500257_162-562312.html


A lot of americans have a really hard time admitting they were lied to and that they supported something so grossly wrong on so many levels. It's easier to justify it with flimsy and unsupportable evidence than to admit that we were wrong to support it, and that our government was wrong to do it. Millions have suffered for it.

1. "classified evidence" ?? - of an attack in america, by americans, 8 years prior to our invasion? Notably, it was also never cited as a reason to invade when it was sold via propaganda to the american people.

2. He had nothing to do with 9/11, nor did he have anything to do with al-queda, in fact, they were afraid to go near iraq before we disposed of saddam regime. He tolerated them less than we do.

3. Conjecture. Others say Syria got them. No credible evidence shows that he ever had them, or that they were moved. Moving something that large and dangerous would have left a trail. And why didn't saddam hitch a ride to such a safe haven as his WMD's? It's fantasy even more than conjecture.

At the time, iraq was working with the inspectors, and if you remember Joe wilson whistleblowing the whole rush to war scam..
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500257_162-562312.html


A lot of americans have a really hard time admitting they were lied to and that they supported something so grossly wrong on so many levels. It's easier to justify it with flimsy and unsupportable evidence than to admit that we were wrong to support it, and that our government was wrong to do it. Millions have suffered for it.

You prolly not wrong.... But one thing that is indisputable...9/11. And punishment to Middle East nations came down like the "portfolio effect" (one stock goes down, many others are subject as well)
We could split hairs, but at the end of the day, 9/11 was not a good day to be a muslum, anywhere in the world.

...PaperDog....Kramer does have it correct. I beg to disagree with you on your 9/11 statement however... I believe that it was a staged "sacrifice" and that in truth ...9/11 was not a good day to be an American ... much more so . More later.

Ta Live Well Die Well

P>S> Baby Bush is a confirmed imbecile and has never done anything "right".

1. "classified evidence" ?? - of an attack in america, by americans, 8 years prior to our invasion? Notably, it was also never cited as a reason to invade when it was sold via propaganda to the american people.

2. He had nothing to do with 9/11, nor did he have anything to do with al-queda, in fact, they were afraid to go near iraq before we disposed of saddam regime. He tolerated them less than we do.

3. Conjecture. Others say Syria got them. No credible evidence shows that he ever had them, or that they were moved. Moving something that large and dangerous would have left a trail. And why didn't saddam hitch a ride to such a safe haven as his WMD's? It's fantasy even more than conjecture.

At the time, iraq was working with the inspectors, and if you remember Joe wilson whistleblowing the whole rush to war scam..
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500257_162-562312.html


A lot of americans have a really hard time admitting they were lied to and that they supported something so grossly wrong on so many levels. It's easier to justify it with flimsy and unsupportable evidence than to admit that we were wrong to support it, and that our government was wrong to do it. Millions have suffered for it.

I have a friend now retired, but was a Senior Admiral working in the Pentagon for the last decade. He watched the centrifuges being trucked into Iran in the days leading up to the Iraq war over satelite surveillance. No one can figure out why that information wasn't made public. Instead of publishing what he knew, Bush took a beating in the press and from Democrats who had the same info.

And there was an Al Queda training site in northeastern Iraq. There is a lot that can't be made public knowledge, for whatever reason.


It took an invasion to find out whether Saddam had the ability to build a nuke and EVERYONE IN THE WORLD believed he was developing one. If he had let UN Inspectors check it out unhindered, there would have been no reason for suspicion.

When he stuck a finger up to the world 17 times, do you think another dozen attempts would have helped?

Then what? Tickling? A duel of checkers? Ignore it until Israel does something about it?

Bush at least let Congress vote on it. They agreed.


Now it happens by executive order, the Constitution be damned!

And there was an Al Queda training site in northeastern Iraq. There is a lot that can't be made public knowledge, for whatever reason.


It took an invasion to find out whether Saddam had the ability to build a nuke and EVERYONE IN THE WORLD believed he was developing one.

"EVERYONE IN THE WORLD"? http://youtu.be/c4qXV8v1xDg

I have a friend now retired, but was a Senior Admiral working in the Pentagon for the last decade. He watched the centrifuges being trucked into Iran in the days leading up to the Iraq war over satelite surveillance. No one can figure out why that information wasn't made public. Instead of publishing what he knew, Bush took a beating in the press and from Democrats who had the same info.

And there was an Al Queda training site in northeastern Iraq. There is a lot that can't be made public knowledge, for whatever reason.

Yet, if that were true, you would likely be sitting in a cell next to PFC Bradley Manning for divulging classified information, in a public forum no less. You would likely be interrogated (tortured) to give up that senior admiral's name who is evidently leaking classified information to civilians.

It took an invasion to find out whether Saddam had the ability to build a nuke and EVERYONE IN THE WORLD believed he was developing one. If he had let UN Inspectors check it out unhindered, there would have been no reason for suspicion.

When he stuck a finger up to the world 17 times, do you think another dozen attempts would have helped?

Now you are repeating what I've already pointed out is a lie. Several whistle-blowers came forward to tell us that the "evidence" was being manufactured and falsified, and many were punished for bringing the truth to the public. The MSM largely ignored these revelations simply because most of them were complicit in it. The only reason we know the truth is because of the internet and the independent media that operates outside of the MSM, thanks to a handful of real journalists who had the balls to investigate the truths behind the invasions.

Then what? Tickling? A duel of checkers? Ignore it until Israel does something about it?

Bush at least let Congress vote on it. They agreed.

Well congress agreed because the MSM sold it to them as much as they sold it to the masses. Do you think that the Rummy/Cheyney/Rove network didn't use their vast connections and influence to also push congress into it? Add in the Pentagon who only seems to starve for war and bigger budgets, and lastly the MIC and countless teams of lawyers and lobbyists. Bomb-making is what they do, it's how they survive, and no war means much fewer bombs and corporate profits slide. Can't have that, can we?

We have a long-standing history of breeding resentment and hatred in the middle east because of our intervention and actions there for much of the last century. Many there have a very real and legitimate reason for hating us.

Personally, if I were a peaceful muslim working a farm and family in some desert in Iraq or wherever, and some US drone blew up my house, my family, my kids, my in-laws, etc.. while I was out working in the field.. and I have nothing left, it's all gone- What do you think I would do? Same goes for when the occupiers roll up in their hum-vees and rape my wife, my daughter and beat my son to death. Hey.. how about when they just take my land and give it to someone else, and my family dies of disease and starvation, homeless and broke?

It's not hard to do the math on just how many lives we've ended or destroyed while waving a flag of democracy and justice. I'm far from a sympathizer- I don't believe in blowing up innocent civilians or kids, no matter which side of the fence you are on. I'm just saying that I certainly see their POV and that I strongly disagree with our foreign policies in almost every aspect.

There was a day before the last election where most of the people around the world welcomed Obama, because they thought he was going to make peace, incite change, and make the entire world a better place. He had the backing of most of the world at the time he took office- He could have changed the world for the better and started laying out a real and viable path to peace. Nobody said it would be easy or fast, but change is change. Unfortunately for us, Obama was and is a fraud. He had been a well-disguised corporate shill, and the world is a worse place for it. Not that I think Romney is any different whatsoever.

Now it happens by executive order, the Constitution be damned!

Can't say I disagree with that. It's something Bush started and Obama campaigned against, yet continued and expanded. Do you honestly think Romney wont continue to expand and abuse the same powers?