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...at this moment in time WW3 is more possible than it ever has been before. It is entirely possible that it could commence within two weeks of this writing. Navies from 25 countries are massing. Last night US Nuclear Bombers departed Texas on a "Mission". The US Fleet is massing ... the British Fleet is massing and the entire world is about to "turn" ... turn predatory.

The Coptic Christian Film which is believed to have been a joint effort between Saudi Arabia and the US CIA is the latest "performance" of orchestrated Chaos designed to ignite the world and to create conflict. The killing of an Ambassador precipitates war much like the killing of the ArchDuke of Austria once did.

The World High Church of Wall St. continues it's "Financial Farming" with it's unholy rituals of "Profit in the Darkness". QE "Unlimited" is in fact QE3 which we were told would not happen. The river of wealth is no longer simply polluted ... it is now non-existent ... gone. Debt is not growth. Fraudulent Debt is Murderous Atrocity.

Serial Lying is now common policy especially during an "Election". It is practiced by both the Politicians and the Mass Media. Refuse to participate any longer in this extravegent Lie. Do not enforce your own enslavement. Do not replace one sick,and disgusting Delusion with another sick and disgusting Delusion.

Power is the Dream of Men. With man the Animal ... there is always someone else ... someone else lusting for power. This makes man very vulnerable. Vulnerable to the "AntiHumans " who pollute and destroy everything they touch with their "AntiHumans". They enrich the very rich of which they are the majority. They gave up their Spiritual Rights ... when they began killing those who believed in things ... for money.

The "Political Capture of the "Euro-Union" and the theft of soverienty leaves a hidden stink in the air. Now they pull the Arab strings and make them "Dance" again. The Reich was not hiding ... it has been simply waiting in the shadows.

Now there is great and growing disorder within the US. Groundless arrests and court cases which mock Freedom and the Constitution ... Bill of Rights ...the Amendments and those who take an Oath to defend them. The new Paradigm is that No One is Innocent any longer. It is not a matter of not knowing what is going on ... it is that no one will stand up out of fear and cowardice.

There is division in the US between zionists and pentagon generals.

" The root of violence is science without humanity ...""

Mahatma Gandhi



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yes, very sad for the human race..
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...Dane ... thank you for your Post. I see you and StringDancer have been stirring it up a bit. Good for you both. I do personally agree with much of what you both state and Planet Guy makes a good point as well but it is not a matter of it being just one side a victim or one side not doing any wrong ... I am afraid that long ago it went way past that. I think it was a mistake for Britain to have ever created Israel as it was then and has become today. The major problem is the Zionists not the Jews or Palestinians I feel.

But that being said I have never dwelt in either so I truly do not know. Israel seems bent on attacking Iran and trying to drag in anybody else it can ... primarily the USA. I feel that for quite some time the plan was to ignite the next and las "World War" there. Much has come to light since the Death Camps of WW2 and quite a bit of it has not been very shall we say very "flattering" for Britain or the State of Israel. Israel lies constantly about possessing nukes, it's intentions regarding the Palestinians and Jerusalem. It creates many of the "problems" it constantly whines about and does not seem very co-operative at times regarding seriously working things out.

I do not think that anyone can really understand how the Palestinians feel unless they have had their homes destroyed, their livelyhoods destroyed and their families destroyed by modern weapons. Not foreclosure, not being laid off and not losing a family member in an accident but having them "killed" with no recourse.

At any rate it is now at this moment the biggest mess imaginable and very easy to make "critical". Bringing more "Security" to the embassies is stupid ... closing them and leaving would be much more effective. Dispatching Fleets and Nuke Bombers is Stupid. Sitting down to talk truthfully and sincerely is not.

There is Great Evil at work there and it can be traced back to Gog and MaGog. No one there is innocent there now excepting the children and it matters not if they be Israeli, Syrian, Palestinian, Iranian, Afghani, Iraqui, Jordanian, Lebonese or so on and so forth.

Those firing the guns are the Evil ones and there are many from many different places. An Evil Empire is being born in front of our eyes and Israel and what is left of Palestine are in danger of becoming it's afterbirth. No matter how anyone looks at it the situation which is now "Defcon" could go critical any moment and if it does there will not ever be any winners only losers.

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I agree with what you've said these last few posts Vampier- I've said in other threads that these embassy attacks have been orchestrated by parties on both sides.

There are sick sick people who will benefit from a massive war in the middle east. Not just americans either. The 1% around the globe will get richer while the bottom 50% of the world will suffer and die horrifically. All the propaganda we see today serves tomorrows purpose, and we are all helpless to stop it. No amount of peaceful protesting will be seen on the news, and any non-peaceful protesters will be shipped out and tortured or killed at whim. FEMA camps are built and ready for the public outcry, and it will quickly be realized by the people that it's too late, we're in too deep, and best keep your mouth shut, your attitude in check, and all hail the corporate masters.

...Kramer... I thank you for your Post, your courage, your intellect and determination. I have made a point of reading your Posts when I see them where ever they are. They are excellent and well stated in my opinion.

Of course in some ways as others we disagree but at least with you I believe that we both agree upon all the "important" issues. My only regret is that we are not closer to one another.

You are correct in that there are sick, sick people and Great Evil afoot. I firmly believe that the vast majority of people from any country in this world are not "evil" and do not devote their lives to it ... knowingly. I also believe that the same group are generally uninformed, unthinking, cowardly, and very very manipulated without their own realization of this. I count most of my "friends" and relatives with them unfortunately.

There has been a massive and ancient chess game of good versus evil being played and unless the unwitting and unaware pawns and the few noble knights remaining resist with some brilliant and forceful moves ... then the entire board and all it's players are doomed. We are individually helpless to stop it ... but we are not helpless to engage and prepare for it ... to resist it and to awaken others to it. Spiritually this is our DUTY. This is even accounted for in our Constitution. Yod is the finest example of this I know of ... anywhere.

Everyone must make their choice for those who think that they will simply "not" then they will discover that this also is a choice ... the wrong choice ... the worst possible choice. I have mad my choice years ago. I have "seen" what is coming and I will never jepordize my Spirituality or personal Code by departing from it now or ever..

This current "Military Exercise" is really the "largest provocation ever taken" and Israel (it;s gov't not people in general) has reduced itself to become nothing more than a naked warmonger. Last night Obama got his beloved NDAA reinstated. The pieces are once again in place, the Constitution mocked and the stage set for the mass arrest and imprisonment and execution required to create the Charnel Planet that this Great Evil so wantonly desires. All that remains is the "Grand Event " or "Performance" that will "authorize" full institution of the much vaunted Police State. Hmmm I wonder what that will be ????

The dollar IS collapsing now and thus the "world as we all have known it our entire lives" is rapidly changing FOREVER. So if any plan or intend to relocate...prepare...or simply "dig in" then now is the time to do so with great seriousness ... before the panic ...before the money losses it's false value and the houses can no longer be "sold" ...before restrictions are enforced ... get your passport ... Last Chance Now.

Kramer I should like to hear from you ... in these last moments we are ... armie-of-seven at hot males. com .....communicate if you wish.

There is a transfer of age occurring and should any survive then it is imperative to create something something new not rebuild that which once was. Death ... Life ...Survival ... Creation ... are all things best not faced physically, emotionally, psychologically,.and Spiritually alone.

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Chaeya ... I concur . I never vote. Never have and never will. Inflation ... massive country killing inflation is now a certainty with the idiot Bernanke's QE 3. Very soon they will have all their little stupid laws into place so that if one sneezes they will have their guns confiscated. Those imbcilic cretans who "think" that it only applies to assault rifles will be whining under the black hoods as they await sobbing and stupid for their turn.

All the rich scum have now started buying gold and as they say the rats are getting ready to depart from the sinking ship. Soon fear will be the prevailing feeling and the Fema Camps will be overflowing and the Stockholm syndrome groupies will be rubbing their hands gleefully together.

For those who glimpse the future they see murder. I apologize for my depressive rant but I truly believe it to be the coming Truth.

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Vamp, actually this post is pretty much what everyone was saying circa 1997-98. The world is already a shitpool and there's plenty of murder and mayhem going on. But there's another world out there that I'm concentrating on, the one that I create!

I'll say this again, nobody's going to take your guns. Why? They don't have the manpower to enforce it. Been saying that since the 90s too when I came back to America. Everybody swore Clinton was going to take their guns. Then Bush was going to take their guns. The New World Order. The black helicopters, the NWO, gun control, I've been through all these debates and have heard it all before. Whether it happens or not, don't know, don't care. I have bigger issues to fry right now than fantasizing about what could or won't be.

As far as the rich investing in gold, no they aren't. That's what lower and middle class people think so they can run out and waste their life savings thinking they're doing what rich people are doing. If the economy collapses, no one is going to be thinking about gold because where are they going to sell it, but to another dumbass poor guy? I work with rich people, I've been around rich people for the past 20 some odd years. They're pulling away from the stock market and going back into real estate, something that's making them money right now - and no they're not buying empty houses in Michigan. In case you guys haven't noticed, real estate developing in certain areas are booming and there's a lot of people apparently here that still have money, and they're building, these people are buying and my rich guys are making money off their condos, their shopping centers, and if the sh*t hits the fan, they have that place they can go and hang out and weather it.

For everyone else, if your economy collapses you want a usable commodity to get back up and running. Whenever anyone's economy completely collapsed, they went to the bartering system, something I do with many people on a regular basis. Also, I have a lot of useable knowledge to share and I have a lot of usable stuff at my house.

The future's going to be what it's going to be, but what I do know is it isn't going to be what you guys are imagining, that is.

Chaeya

Chaeya , no one is going to take away the guns, you are right. You miss the importance of that.

Unfortunately you have no concept that our government has already run a practice drill in Orleans after hurricane katrina.

The national guard manual and army manual have been re -written with new rules of civilian control. Why?

Why are certain agencies suddenly being armed with armor piercing and hollow point bullets. Like the NOAA. Was that just a budget overrun?

You take your liberal attacks on me and answer those questions.

...PaperDog... I am pleased you are relieved as I am as well. To lose your friendship would be a great loss to me. You are correct about slipping in scathing commentaries. We are all guilty of these hidden insults as the temptations of such are great. You obviously feel the same in ways about StringDancer as I regarding Vinny. I feel both relate issues of significance and credible consideration but ... we sense hidden agenda and I believe firmly that following one's feelings and instincts should be given priority. I can only say that have you noted since I adopted a different tactic with Vinny , he has almost stopped posting ? Of course there could be many reasons for this "loss" but it is worth noting I believe. I shall respect your instincts. I do hope that one day we shall share a fire ... possibly even with Yod, Glen, Slacker and a few others.

We are both well aware of previous circles ... not only personally but in respect to one another. This has been evident in our Profiles, Posts and Works. This is as it should be. We share many more things than what we do not. We can both take great comfort in this.

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...Glenny .... I missed your Posts here and elsewhere. I look forward to witnessing how you respond to others and most of all your unique perspectives. These are difficult for most to fully comprehend and it is admirable that you do not let this change your method by simplification but instead continue to respond, hammer and address them until they either give up, become swayed and agree either in part or whole or the best of all become your friend as in my case. You only become better and better like a bottle of good wine.

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Why are certain agencies suddenly being armed with armor piercing and hollow point bullets. Like the NOAA. Was that just a budget overrun?

Glenn,

Here is a clarification on the ammo purchases by Federal agencies. I think imaginations ran a little wild.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/ssabullets.asp

...PaperDog... I am pleased you are relieved as I am as well. To lose your friendship would be a great loss to me. You are correct about slipping in scathing commentaries. We are all guilty of these hidden insults as the temptations of such are great. You obviously feel the same in ways about StringDancer as I regarding Vinny. I feel both relate issues of significance and credible consideration but ... we sense hidden agenda and I believe firmly that following one's feelings and instincts should be given priority. I can only say that have you noted since I adopted a different tactic with Vinny , he has almost stopped posting ? Of course there could be many reasons for this "loss" but it is worth noting I believe. I shall respect your instincts. I do hope that one day we shall share a fire ... possibly even with Yod, Glen, Slacker and a few others.

We are both well aware of previous circles ... not only personally but in respect to one another. This has been evident in our Profiles, Posts and Works. This is as it should be. We share many more things than what we do not. We can both take great comfort in this.

Ta Live Well Die Well

Count Imbecila, The Vampier

Count Imbecila, The Vampier ... the great tactician!

...Chaeya... I thank you for your Post. I found it very thought provoking. I take the time to respond in detail to you out of my respect and admiration for you. I will do this point by point so please forgive me as this translates in that it will be rather lengthy.

I can understand how you ... with respect to your life experience / what little I know of it ...can say that what I relate is "pretty much what everyone was saying circa 1997-98". In fact ... not "everyone" was saying then what I relate now and the few that did say anything remotely similiar were "amusedly" labelled "Conspiracy Theorists".

Since then the murder and mayhem has only increased dramatically and will continue on a worldwide basis. I point out that whatever world you create must exist within the world you label "shitpool". Microcasm and Macrocasm. This is an Ancient and very basic Truth.

Taking Guns ...Chaeya I do not own or possess any gun ... this being said ...you are dead wrong... "they" do indeed intend to confiscate all citizens guns. Since 1997-98 the "government" has staged drills in cities all over the US. These "Drills" used National Guard and Federal Troops not domestic Police. These were and continue to be done in direct violation of "Posse Comitatus". Glenny is correct ...in the wake of Katrina at "high and dry " areas, the military and hired mercenaries ala "BlackWater" were going door to door confiscating guns. Y-Tube has loads of actual videos of both of the above. Laws are constantly being passed at the state level designed to take guns. If you are stopped for suspected DUI or "drugs" then "they" are now going to your house and taking your guns. If you are a Vet and have any involvement with the Police in any way "they" do the same. Anyone who objects is taken to a mental facility to be "assessed", their children are taken, vehicles impounded and guns taken. Martial Law Drills have been staged since 1997-98 that enlist citizens, seal of communities and take guns. Obama has clearly stated that he intends to take guns. 1.6 billion bullets have been purchased for use "domestically" in anticipation of ressistance/civil war when the Police State is fully instituted and guns taken. Drills with troops with domestic police and troops from many other countries and the US have been staged since 1997-98 for taking guns. UN laws have been passed stating only the UN armies can have guns and not anyone else and to take guns. I could go on but I feel I have made my point.

ManPower ... Yes they do have the manpower available. The Police have been militarized throughout the entire country ... they have tanks, armoured vehicles and military weaponry. Foreign troops have been stationed throughout the country and participating in Drills for quite sometime now. All through the entire country Fema Camps have bee created and maintained ... most of which at this moment are operational. The UN troops are now available for operations within the US due to various "treaties". All this including the Boy Scouts can be brought to bear in a "declared Crisis". Even the Federal Reserve now have their own military/police Force armed with Glocks.

Clinton ... yes he tryed but because he could not keep his big mouth shut and his dick in his trousers ... was unable to. I also returned to the US in the 90's. Baby Bush did continue the agenda of taking guns and other devious ones as well ... through his "Executive Orders".

Black Helicopters ...do you have any idea how many Black Helicopters there are in the US at this moment ? Check it out.

GUN CONTROL IS GUN CONFISCATION

NWO...even "they" admit they exist now ever since Daddy Bush's pround announcement of it ... ritually timed in respect of 9/11.

What you rfer to as "it" has happened and continues to do so at this moment ... and you should care Chaeya ... but that is your choice. What you refer to as "Fantasy" has been reality for quite some time and your ignoring these realities does in no way alter or change them.

One can not ignore the world in which they dwell if one is to create.

More to come......

...Vinny I thank you for your excellent graphic image of one of the best known ... and loved Vampire actors ever. "GrandPa" His life is looking into ... very interesting. Keep up your great work Vinny. Ta

...Vinny I thank you for your excellent graphic image of one of the best known ... and loved Vampire actors ever. "GrandPa" His life is looking into ... very interesting. Keep up your great work Vinny. Ta

That's actually a picture of Vinny, during the Esthers's Follies Ice capades try- outs at Rockerfeller Plaza back in 1990. He didnt get the the job, cause he kept coming up Nines on his Figure Eights...

... Gold ...George Soros ... check "it" out. Look into how much gold is worth and how much it is expected to become worth by "experts". Just make sure that you check any gold bars you may have lying around as they might possibly have substantial amounts of Titanium in them. I assume that you believe Bernanke in that "Gold is not money" ?

In truth the "life savings of which you speak of are "wasted" because they have been stolen in great part and at this moment are devaluing rapidly because they are based upon the "false" dollar...not gold.

I firmly believe that who you deem as "rich people" that you have been around for 20 years are not the rich I speak of. If they were then they would be well aware of what is currently transpiring and would tell their good "friends".

Real Estate Developers ... parasites generally and not part of the truly rich of the world. They merely rush to whichever feed bowl the real rich decide to feed them in.

Not "if" but when the SHTF your "rich guys" will be some of the first "targeted" and will be "weathering" it out in the Fema Camps next to the poor drug addicted whore with the shakes. Of course this is just my "Fantasy" although I must admit I am uncertain as to why in the world I would have such. I advise you to enjoy and cherish your real estate friends as much as you can.

Bartering is a good idea and I believe we all have been doing that since Ancient Times ... at least those of us who are not "rich". Bartering will become illegal soon as it already is in some places since the "New Cashless Society" does not condone bartering. Second hand Stores are becoming increasingly illegal as are garage sales, Farmers Markets and ......Little Girls Lemonade Stands. It will be the underground currency as long as there are people to practice it.

The Future ... unless things change radically THERE IS NO FUTURE.

Very soon there will be no freedoms and no rights. Protesting is now considered by the "authorities" to be Terrorism. Tell your rich real estate friends to invest in prisons ... that is the future rapid growth industry in this country.

I agree that the future is not going to be what we "guys" are imagining. It will in fact be much much worse. This is because we "guys" are severely limited with availability of what the actual plans are and the extent of such .... if we had more complete information we could then say perhaps how bad it will become with greater accuracy.

Chaeya ... I relate all this not to insult you, pick a dispute or pit my Ego against yours. I have already stated how I feel about you in a Previous post and that stands. I entreat you to just do a bit of looking into some of ... even one of the factors I relate here. You seem to be intelligent and must therefore understand the value of preparation. You are a valued wife, Mother and friend it seems based upon what little I admittedly know. You are well thought of here by most it seems. That is Good. Who we are is not always properly percieved by those around us. What we see is not what others see.

"Know your garden ..."

Hopi Elders


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lol I thought that was a pic of Vinny's girl.. (rim shot + cymbal)