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#183148 by Planetguy
Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:59 am
GLENNY J wrote:[
As far as having chains on,,, be careful or you will.


and capt 'merica speaks from exp. he always INSISTS i cuff him when i break out the cat'o nine on his butt.


But,, you have no clue of the the hatred ,destruction , and desire to control that exists in this world.


hey cap'n...be the change you seek. maybe if you can stop spreading your hate, self loathing, and bitterness.....nah, never mind. so far you've just shown everyone that you're too weak and small too even try.

why don't you surprise us all and give the acid spewing a rest for awhile.


I would much rather the world be filled with people like you,,,,, BUT IT ISN'T!


well, ya bitch about that fact but then ya make it worse by making more enemies. so....again, be the change you seek, brutha. :wink:

#183153 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri Aug 24, 2012 2:29 am
You are the most selfish person I have ever had the pleasure to meet.
You are amazing at the self centered comments you post.
On top of that you really come on as the most frustrated player (choke,cough,choke) up here.

Bring it on buddy, you have already sunk yourself to cursing me out.
I'm not going to call you names, bring on some substantial thought.

I can't wait till you fall into this, because you are clueless.
#183230 by Vampier
Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:29 pm
...Chaeya ...You are most welcome. Like you, my Wife Amanda and I love history, love to read...and ...we have a huge personal library which is just as valuable as a fully equipped workshop in my opinion. You do indeed seem to be very much a realist. As I have said previously you seem "too kind" in your appraisal at times but as you will find with further experience, it is much, much worse than one can possibly imagine.

Planet Guy ... despair ? Your pathetic attempt at wit is lost to me I am afraid. Glen's appraisal of you may seem simplistic but that is because you are incapable of understanding him. He is more complex and "deep" than you think. His methods are abrasive but like Haley ... inside they are truly good and spiritual and "underconcieved". Your transperant attempts to insert yourself as "one of the folks" on this Forum are both comical and a bit disgusting to me at least. What you tried to do on Mike Talbot's thread failed and your "little friendly Posts" afterwards fail to mask your true and quite shallow intentions even to Mike I think. He is a nice guy ... pure and simple in his faith and his life. You are not. Your "simple pleasures" are very revealing ... getting in to an imported, expensive, now over rated and expired status symbol that most can not afford and driving down the motorway like a bad 70's movie is most certainly not my idea of a simple pleasure. But ... it kind of says it all does it not. Nevertheless good luck to you as you will need it being a snake with inflated ego, values and spiritless materialism.

Kramer ... I thank you for your Post. I agree with all that you have stated re slavery excepting that it is not happening here in the US today. It is most certainly here as in other "civilized" countries of the world. Check out "White Slaver" which basically means sex slavery. Children are being sold, kidnapped, disappeared and murdered daily here is the US ...enslaved. Even the selfexalted "world leaders" practice "mock" ceremonies at Bohemian Grove. Pedophilia, cannibalism and other hideous practices are and have been practiced by such as "royals", state leaders, corporate/religious leaders and other scum for centuries now. Check out Ted Knnedy's sexual tastes and kissinger's ampng others and you will see that it is more than tolerated ... it is esteemed by those in positions of leadership.

Ta ...more coming ...
#183253 by Vampier
Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:19 pm
...more ...Chaeya ... your Post re slavery and publishing etc. is very good and appreciated. Congrats on your self published book.

Yod ...Thanks for your Post and list of National Media. As usual your Post was well done and very precise ... and most importantly THE TRUTH. My thoughts remain with you and your activities.

Great Society ... a tragic joke like "Change" and "Transperancy"

Haley ...excellent Post ...thank you.

Glen ... It is all about CONTROL ... most even now still do not believe this. I have found that you are an excellent "barameter" here on the Forum regarding the "value" and sincerity and genuine worth of those Poster here on the Forum. You may be criticized for being crude but you are most definately effective in this. You can identify the "fluff" and "other" if only by your "test" exchanges...where they dig their own holes, jump in and pull the "dir" over themselves. Excellent !

I must reference this regarding the "mythical troll" that plaguesthis Forum. If one has been "following" the "Test Exchanges" and then see's what the psuedo troll posted on PaperDog's "Romney Wins" thread then it is quite obvious I feel that there is a dangerous hidden agenda at work.

The Post on "Romney Wins" is the polar opposite of "it's" other posts. I have detected hints of this before when the Post seems to make at times a bit of sense or is somewhat in line with "certain beliefs" shared by myself and others here. This to me indicates that there is a very good possibility that this "thing" ... "this facade" ...this troll is manufactured and is like a "Trapwire". Tjis is not paranoia it is critical thought and conclusion.

Imagine a somewhat "educated" but spiritless creature "hired" like a BlackWater mercenary or drone "pilot" by the government to entrap and document the collectionof information. This is "enhanced" by goading, making accusations and gathering information that can be "used" later. It is traitorous and evil but the 4th Amendment is lying in the grave waiting to be covered with polluted dirt. Privacy is dead and the Police State lives and is growing.

Make a chart and compare the Post and you will see how I come to this conclusion. It is obvious, it is not super intellectual, it simply "is". Glen has unmasked this slime and the entrapment I feel. At any rate I urge that those here contemplate this, look into it and act in accodrance with your instincts and what I relate. I feel this creature to be a danger ...

To those of you who think that Glen is very easily understood then I say look again and take what he says with a deeper look. Planet Guy is real but not the troll. Planet Guy may be annoying to some and alright to others but he does not pretend to be something he is not.....he is a musician and a competent one. The troll is no musician.

I do not advocate living in fear or being a coward and most definately not speaking the Truth. Yod is the finest example not only on this Forum but anywhere that I know of in this respect. he is fearless, truthful and not stupid or evil. The troll thing should be shut down ...

Now the Police State that is parasitically sucking our Constitution dry has it's little minions everywhere and as the time passes the levels of this willincrease. This is not my opinion it is undeniable reality. They will utilize anything that can be construed to be a "threat". There are several sweeps being put into action all over the country now. "Threat Fusion Centres" , the arresting of talk show hosts and veterans and other citizens for opinions, little shooting sprees being performed to justify the taking of guns etc etc etc. the "election"...this mold is everywhere and the "government/business positions are infested with vermin.

Ta
#183256 by Planetguy
Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:51 pm
Vampier wrote:.

Planet Guy ... despair ? Your pathetic attempt at wit is lost to me I am afraid.


perhaps it wouldn't be lost on you if you took yourself a little less seriously then. stop trying to prove your superior spiritual state of being with your tiresome, burdensome, phony mysticism, and your pedantic and childish writing. none of it cloaks the venom that you show time and time again to be there bubbling away just below the surface waiting for release.

perhaps it would appear as more than a "pathetic attempt at wit" to you if you had ever developed a sense of humor instead of wasting your time trying so hard to impress folks w your intellect and how unconventional (yeah right) you are.


Glen's appraisal of you may seem simplistic but that is because you are incapable of understanding him. He is more complex and "deep" than you think.


wow...and you're gonna accuse ME of being insincere? you're one of the biggest suckups i've had the displeasure to ecounter.

you routinely feel the need to kiss up and write little glowing mash notes to members to curry their favor! dude...you actually list members by names and then write little laundry lists professing what you love about 'em!

let's be real...you're clearly that most dispicable, angry as hell, gloom and doom conservative who's just looking for someone to blame and the next target for your outrage. and your rage is appearing more and more like what it truly is....low self esteem issues w a large side dish of self loathing.

Your transperant attempts to insert yourself as "one of the folks" on this Forum are both comical and a bit disgusting to me at least.


hey chump....what you see is what you get. good, bad and ugly. i ain't being nuthin but who i am. in both the pleasant posts and threads where folks are communicating like adults and in the threads and posts that have gotten ugly and the gloves have come off.

thinking the worst and seeing everything thru your sh*t stained glasses (i bet that as pretentious as you are...you might even wear a monical) ..please feel free to interpret my posts any way you like. since you so obviously love revelling in your "disgust", you should be happy i've provided you yet another target and outlet for it.


What you tried to do on Mike Talbot's thread failed


yeah, it failed. but our views on how it failed differ. you pathetically had to assail mike to ask him if was offended. when he was a super classy gentleman and said he wasn't .....you raised the victory flag. YOU were right and felt justified.

on the other hand...i see and admit that 'it failed" because i politely asked people to leave the grandstanding politics out of it....but yet a few (you among them) chose to use that sad turn of events and mike's loss as one more op to climb upon your soapbox and beat your chest.

and i'll go record to say that is a most selfish and self centered sh*t bird thing to do.


let me remind you that most folks DID show the common courtesy not to stoop so low. hell, even Jeff Haley agreed w my sentiment. right on jeff. so, are you gonna dress him down for that? no...you're too much of a suckass. and too much of a hypocrite.

and your "little friendly Posts" afterwards fail to mask your true and quite shallow intentions even to Mike I think.


think what you want. you're a bitter, pessimitic, dark hearted small man w an endless thirst for more targets to justify your ugliness. (no, i do not speak of physical ugliness)

Your "simple pleasures" are very revealing ... getting in to an imported, expensive, now over rated and expired status symbol that most can not afford and driving down the motorway like a bad 70's movie is most certainly not my idea of a simple pleasure.


hey dumbass...that expensive sports car cost 20K. are there no bounds to your ignorance????

yeah, i know it's not YOUR simple pleasure but on the other hand... your simple pleasure of being an insecure suckass and trying to impress folks w your fake bs mysticism and doublespeak AIN'T one of my pleasures.

to each his own, eh?


Nevertheless good luck to you as you will need it being a snake with inflated ego, values and spiritless materialism.


and still more hypocrital BS from our resident spiritual guide. stop being such an invertebrate...don't wish me "good luck" when you don't mean it. at least glennie would have the spine and honesty to tell me to go f**k myself.

and not being an insincere hypocrite like yourself i won't wish you 'good luck"...instead... please go f**k yourself.
#183257 by VinnyViolin
Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:56 pm
Vampier wrote:...more ...Chaeya ... your Post re slavery and publishing etc. is very good and appreciated. Congrats on your self published book.

Yod ...Thanks for your Post and list of National Media. As usual your Post was well done and very precise ... and most importantly THE TRUTH. My thoughts remain with you and your activities.

Great Society ... a tragic joke like "Change" and "Transperancy"

Haley ...excellent Post ...thank you.

Glen ... It is all about CONTROL ... most even now still do not believe this. I have found that you are an excellent "barameter" here on the Forum regarding the "value" and sincerity and genuine worth of those Poster here on the Forum. You may be criticized for being crude but you are most definately effective in this. You can identify the "fluff" and "other" if only by your "test" exchanges...where they dig their own holes, jump in and pull the "dir" over themselves. Excellent !

I must reference this regarding the "mythical troll" that plaguesthis Forum. If one has been "following" the "Test Exchanges" and then see's what the psuedo troll posted on PaperDog's "Romney Wins" thread then it is quite obvious I feel that there is a dangerous hidden agenda at work.

The Post on "Romney Wins" is the polar opposite of "it's" other posts. I have detected hints of this before when the Post seems to make at times a bit of sense or is somewhat in line with "certain beliefs" shared by myself and others here. This to me indicates that there is a very good possibility that this "thing" ... "this facade" ...this troll is manufactured and is like a "Trapwire". Tjis is not paranoia it is critical thought and conclusion.

Imagine a somewhat "educated" but spiritless creature "hired" like a BlackWater mercenary or drone "pilot" by the government to entrap and document the collectionof information. This is "enhanced" by goading, making accusations and gathering information that can be "used" later. It is traitorous and evil but the 4th Amendment is lying in the grave waiting to be covered with polluted dirt. Privacy is dead and the Police State lives and is growing.

Make a chart and compare the Post and you will see how I come to this conclusion. It is obvious, it is not super intellectual, it simply "is". Glen has unmasked this slime and the entrapment I feel. At any rate I urge that those here contemplate this, look into it and act in accodrance with your instincts and what I relate. I feel this creature to be a danger ...

To those of you who think that Glen is very easily understood then I say look again and take what he says with a deeper look. Planet Guy is real but not the troll. Planet Guy may be annoying to some and alright to others but he does not pretend to be something he is not.....he is a musician and a competent one. The troll is no musician.

I do not advocate living in fear or being a coward and most definately not speaking the Truth. Yod is the finest example not only on this Forum but anywhere that I know of in this respect. he is fearless, truthful and not stupid or evil. The troll thing should be shut down ...

Now the Police State that is parasitically sucking our Constitution dry has it's little minions everywhere and as the time passes the levels of this willincrease. This is not my opinion it is undeniable reality. They will utilize anything that can be construed to be a "threat". There are several sweeps being put into action all over the country now. "Threat Fusion Centres" , the arresting of talk show hosts and veterans and other citizens for opinions, little shooting sprees being performed to justify the taking of guns etc etc etc. the "election"...this mold is everywhere and the "government/business positions are infested with vermin.

Ta
8) :D :( :D :( :D :( :D :( :D :( 8) ..... wow a chart of my contradictions would be so awesome!!! Please share it with us!

Vampier wrote:It is obvious, it is not super intellectual, it simply "is"
How profound!

Having systematically and comprehensively, cataloged and charted the postings of the Vampier, we are left with no other possible conclusion .. he has been a deep undercover asset for Mossad for almost a decade. They promise him all the blood he can consume as a fringe benefit. :lol:

Here's a very infomative movie about the danger of trolls! http://youtu.be/TLEo7H9tqSM 8)
#183259 by VinnyViolin
Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:05 pm
Planetguy wrote:wow...and you're gonna accuse ME of being insincere? you're one of the biggest suckups i've had the displeasure to ecounter.

you routinely feel the need to kiss up and write little glowing mash notes to members to curry their favor! dude...you actually list members by names and then write little laundry lists professing what you love about 'em!

:lol:
Bingo!
When I read those posts by Vampier, the words "smarmy" and "oily" seem to best describe his flattering character. Like a shady used car salesman who comes on as your best pal. :lol:
#183261 by Vampier
Fri Aug 24, 2012 8:39 pm
...Planet Guy I thank you for your response. Very good. You are real. You are a good musician. You have a pair. No doubt you are a good friend and husband. I do wish you luck and good fortune and it is sincere not hypocritical. Of course you may take it as you wish.

I am not perfect nor even near perfect. I am most certainly not a spiritual guide. I could not do that and I am not capable of it. Regarding your angry opinions of me ... I am certain that there is some validity in what you say. I am not a good judge of myself... no one is really...of themselves I mean.

I say what I think ... sometimes it is right and often it is wrong, When I can see either I do not gloat or fail to apologize. Our opinions as I have stated before are not really very important. It is what others think that is more important ... those who really know us and are in themselves good judges.

Once I apologized to Mike for any problems I ceased posting there as I had said all I needed to say. But that is me not you.

I do not like you very much but you are a good musician and intelligent and have your own beliefs and opinions .... soooo for me that has value enough even if I do not agree. I have said what I think of you I think in clear terms and you have said the same of me...sooo why do we not leave it at that ? I will not attack your posts here or anywhere else but I will read them and think about them not dismissing them as troll dribble. You do what you wish but I do really wish you luck because the future ... our futures are grim and we will need our friends ... real friends. Please do not construe this to mean that I am saying you have no friends... I am sure you do.

Happy Orbit to you
Ta


Vinny... WHERE IS THE MUSIC
#183265 by VinnyViolin
Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:36 pm
Vampier wrote:Vinny... WHERE IS THE MUSIC


You can listen to some of it on my bandmix page.

It is very interesting that you accuse me of goading people into revealing information about themselves, even while you are campaigning for the "TROLL" to reveal his "true identity". 8) .... sort of a contradiction here?

Do you work for the latest version of this project? ... From Wikipedia, The Information Awareness Office (IAO) was established by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in January 2002 to bring together several DARPA projects focused on applying surveillance and information technology to track and monitor terrorists and other asymmetric threats to national security, by achieving Total Information Awareness (TIA).

Following public criticism that the development and deployment of this technology could potentially lead to a mass surveillance system, the IAO was defunded by Congress in 2003. However, several IAO projects continued to be funded, and merely run under different names.[1][2][3][4] Image
#183267 by PaperDog
Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:36 pm
VinnyViolin wrote:
Planetguy wrote:wow...and you're gonna accuse ME of being insincere? you're one of the biggest suckups i've had the displeasure to ecounter.

you routinely feel the need to kiss up and write little glowing mash notes to members to curry their favor! dude...you actually list members by names and then write little laundry lists professing what you love about 'em!

:lol:
Bingo!
When I read those posts by Vampier, the words "smarmy" and "oily" seem to best describe his flattering character. Like a shady used car salesman who comes on as your best pal. :lol:


It never does harm to express positive energy and such , even to your adversaries.

For all you cynics, who distrust words of kindness, and believe that tricks are being played on you... You fail to recognize that the person complimenting you , isn't the guy playing tricks on you... He'll walk walk away with no quarter to speak of. But you might walk away, punishing your self, depriving him of hard work against you.


8)
#183272 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:39 am
Planetguy wrote:
Vampier wrote:.

Planet Guy ... despair ? Your pathetic attempt at wit is lost to me I am afraid.


perhaps it wouldn't be lost on you if you took yourself a little less seriously then. stop trying to prove your superior spiritual state of being with your tiresome, burdensome, phony mysticism, and your pedantic and childish writing. none of it cloaks the venom that you show time and time again to be there bubbling away just below the surface waiting for release.

perhaps it would appear as more than a "pathetic attempt at wit" to you if you had ever developed a sense of humor instead of wasting your time trying so hard to impress folks w your intellect and how unconventional (yeah right) you are.


Glen's appraisal of you may seem simplistic but that is because you are incapable of understanding him. He is more complex and "deep" than you think.


wow...and you're gonna accuse ME of being insincere? you're one of the biggest suckups i've had the displeasure to ecounter.

you routinely feel the need to kiss up and write little glowing mash notes to members to curry their favor! dude...you actually list members by names and then write little laundry lists professing what you love about 'em!

let's be real...you're clearly that most dispicable, angry as hell, gloom and doom conservative who's just looking for someone to blame and the next target for your outrage. and your rage is appearing more and more like what it truly is....low self esteem issues w a large side dish of self loathing.

Your transperant attempts to insert yourself as "one of the folks" on this Forum are both comical and a bit disgusting to me at least.


hey chump....what you see is what you get. good, bad and ugly. i ain't being nuthin but who i am. in both the pleasant posts and threads where folks are communicating like adults and in the threads and posts that have gotten ugly and the gloves have come off.

thinking the worst and seeing everything thru your sh*t stained glasses (i bet that as pretentious as you are...you might even wear a monical) ..please feel free to interpret my posts any way you like. since you so obviously love revelling in your "disgust", you should be happy i've provided you yet another target and outlet for it.


What you tried to do on Mike Talbot's thread failed


yeah, it failed. but our views on how it failed differ. you pathetically had to assail mike to ask him if was offended. when he was a super classy gentleman and said he wasn't .....you raised the victory flag. YOU were right and felt justified.

on the other hand...i see and admit that 'it failed" because i politely asked people to leave the grandstanding politics out of it....but yet a few (you among them) chose to use that sad turn of events and mike's loss as one more op to climb upon your soapbox and beat your chest.

and i'll go record to say that is a most selfish and self centered sh*t bird thing to do.


let me remind you that most folks DID show the common courtesy not to stoop so low. hell, even Jeff Haley agreed w my sentiment. right on jeff. so, are you gonna dress him down for that? no...you're too much of a suckass. and too much of a hypocrite.

and your "little friendly Posts" afterwards fail to mask your true and quite shallow intentions even to Mike I think.


think what you want. you're a bitter, pessimitic, dark hearted small man w an endless thirst for more targets to justify your ugliness. (no, i do not speak of physical ugliness)

Your "simple pleasures" are very revealing ... getting in to an imported, expensive, now over rated and expired status symbol that most can not afford and driving down the motorway like a bad 70's movie is most certainly not my idea of a simple pleasure.


hey dumbass...that expensive sports car cost 20K. are there no bounds to your ignorance????

yeah, i know it's not YOUR simple pleasure but on the other hand... your simple pleasure of being an insecure suckass and trying to impress folks w your fake bs mysticism and doublespeak AIN'T one of my pleasures.

to each his own, eh?


Nevertheless good luck to you as you will need it being a snake with inflated ego, values and spiritless materialism.


and still more hypocrital BS from our resident spiritual guide. stop being such an invertebrate...don't wish me "good luck" when you don't mean it. at least glennie would have the spine and honesty to tell me to go f**k myself.

and not being an insincere hypocrite like yourself i won't wish you 'good luck"...instead... please go f**k yourself.


You are definitely a lost case planet dude. Your attacks are becoming more boring by the minute. You keep saying the same things over and over with out any creative expansion. Now you are denigrating yourself to simple 4 letter words out of anger. I would say you are losing it but now it appears you have just,,,, plain lost it. I really hope your food stamps come through, so you don't go hungry.

#183273 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:41 am
"Hello my name is Planet guy. I have nothing to offer except to attack any one I feel like. I am basically not going to post anything useful or nice. I will swap around quotes and do any thing I can to make you think I am great, and try to make everyone else look like an uninformed, uneducated, government responsibility.
PS , YOU ALL SUCK"

Did you really mean this dude?
#183274 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:43 am
VinnyViolin wrote:
Vampier wrote:Vinny... WHERE IS THE MUSIC


You can listen to some of it on my bandmix page.

It is very interesting that you accuse me of goading people into revealing information about themselves, even while you are campaigning for the "TROLL" to reveal his "true identity". 8) .... sort of a contradiction here?

Do you work for the latest version of this project? ... From Wikipedia, The Information Awareness Office (IAO) was established by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in January 2002 to bring together several DARPA projects focused on applying surveillance and information technology to track and monitor terrorists and other asymmetric threats to national security, by achieving Total Information Awareness (TIA).

Following public criticism that the development and deployment of this technology could potentially lead to a mass surveillance system, the IAO was defunded by Congress in 2003. However, several IAO projects continued to be funded, and merely run under different names.[1][2][3][4] Image


Vinny, you are slowing down. You are showing less and less creativity. The same as your music. What orchestra was that,,, you claim to play with?
Where did you get that picture from? Doesn't even look like you...
I'm sure you are much better looking. Don't you have a better picture?
#183283 by VinnyViolin
Sat Aug 25, 2012 7:36 am
PaperDog wrote:
VinnyViolin wrote:
Planetguy wrote:wow...and you're gonna accuse ME of being insincere? you're one of the biggest suckups i've had the displeasure to ecounter.

you routinely feel the need to kiss up and write little glowing mash notes to members to curry their favor! dude...you actually list members by names and then write little laundry lists professing what you love about 'em!

:lol:
Bingo!
When I read those posts by Vampier, the words "smarmy" and "oily" seem to best describe his flattering character. Like a shady used car salesman who comes on as your best pal. :lol:


It never does harm to express positive energy and such , even to your adversaries.

For all you cynics, who distrust words of kindness, and believe that tricks are being played on you... You fail to recognize that the person complimenting you , isn't the guy playing tricks on you... He'll walk walk away with no quarter to speak of. But you might walk away, punishing your self, depriving him of hard work against you.


8)
.. Ah Paperdog it is always a pleasure to drink in your sublime observations that never fail to shine the TRUTH upon any subject up for discussion. It is truly because of you and all other Texans, just exactly like You, who are really what this country needs right now in it's darkest hour. You are the only one's with the BALLS to stand up for the TRUTH that you know is right because it flows deep in your heart like every true Texan who will not back down before tyrants. Except for Glen who I love so dearly because he is a real man who will not take any BS from trolls and liberal assholes. Glen inspires the heart with his true simplicity of mind and his quick to action ways. He is unfettered by the petty concerns of the intellect and knows the TRUTH when he knows it because he is a true man of real freedom who is not afraid to die well or to sacrifice well, his family and friends, for a higher cause he feels and knows is right because he is a true man who will not tolerate tyrants . I howl at the moon and feel the blood, THE BLOOD in my veins, it is MY HONOR to have met your acquaintance and merged with your souls so that we are now eternally cyber-blood brothers of the TRUTH who will always remember the code of Bushido and march righteously together and DIE WELL when they come to try and take away our guns. Again, I m afraid we face a gloomy and grim future, do we not? And we will need to control all of the friends we have, I am truly honored and quite humbled to have met true men and rather excellent musicians such as yourselves. Ta.

:lol:

#183284 by JCP61
Sat Aug 25, 2012 10:21 am
lol~~

if vinny was actually a player he could run this place!

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