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#273286 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:52 pm
NO SHITT!
This is why we still have guns....
You wanna FUUCCKK with my PRESIDENT????

Resign or be prosecuted....
#273313 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:26 am
Badstrat wrote:When a pukyass biased little liberal judge can totally ignore immigration law and stop a president from his duty of protecting American citizens, when the president is operating within his lawful authority, the country has already been lost. By the administrations kowtowing to this hack judge who has no authority to rule as he did, they have set precedence for any liberal hack judge to over rule anything the president does.

Think about it. An unlawful decision treated as a lawful one by all authorities tells those who hate America to have at it. This is the most moronic interpretation of the law to date. It is a decision based on lies that oppose the law.



It isn't a perfect system but it works eventually.

First of all, the President will win this challenge, but secondly this will get the 9th Circuit busted into 2 or 3 smaller pieces soon. Then they won't have so much influence.

win-win

This is the same kind of decision a Texas judge used to stop Obama's bathroom ruling, I think? We will see a lot of legal challenges since that is the only influence liberals have left, but that is a good thing. They will be ruled on by a conservative government and those rules will clarify the end of the progressive movement.




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#273319 by Paleopete
Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:54 am
Full disclosure, I didn't read the entire thread, just a couple of pages but...

First off, I think the main reason Trump went ahead and complied with the court ruling is he knows if he went against them it would be an open invitation to a constitutional crisis and an impeachment effort. I don't think he's too worried about a constitutional crisis, but he doesn't want impeachment to start this soon. He knows they're looking for a reason. He's a lot more intelligent than they will ever know.

This is a setback, it will be resolved and Trump will prevail, but it will take time.

The 9th Circuit is very likely to be broken up, I saw an article a few minutes ago saying that a bill to do it has already been started. Should have been done long ago.

This is all about politics, not immigration or national security. Democrats are doing everything they can think of to slow down or derail everything Trump does, they can't get over losing the election and just playing sore losers is not enough. I can't remember who said it, but we can expect a lot more lawsuits before it's over. That and name calling are all the Democrats have left.

I can't wait till 2018, to see how many more get booted out of office. I found out not long ago Democrats lost 1000 seats in November when you count both federal and state elections. That's a huge defeat, and it's why they are completely off the rails now. We'll see a lot more lawsuits, probably everything Trump tries to do will be taken to court. Most will fail.

Let's just hope not many manage to make it here while the rush is on, I also read an article today that a couple from the middle east were stopped at the Mexican border recently. More are trying, we know that. Anyone who doesn't believe it has only to look at Germany, France and Belgium. It's already been proven terrorists are mixing in with the so called refugees. This country is their number one target, they are trying to get here for sure, let's all hope not many manage to make it before we get a decent vetting process in place. Some are already here, I'd bet on that.

I'll also bet on this. We have a president now who does not know the meaning of the word lose. He will get his way, we will get control over the immigration and refugee situations, but it might take longer than it should have. It sucks this liberal court can slow it down this way, but Trump has to watch his step, he knows any little thing will be used against him and this shows me he is being careful. A less cautious individual might have flipped the finger at the court and gone ahead with it. As I've said many times, never underestimate Donald Trump...this will be sorted out, it will just take a bit longer.
#273360 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:10 am
Thank you for a GREAT post Billy.
You are one of those people that are not afraid to put up a sensible opinion.

I know, I know... I get carried away the gun thing... But we have some very evil people we are dealing with. I just don't want to leave them with the ultimate option, and good people with none.
#273366 by Vampier
Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:03 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqVwGxsRk3U ... What is the next move ? Some Invaders are now calling for Sharia Law in Texas. Perhaps they will want to make the Alamo into a Mosque ?
#273367 by Badstrat
Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:25 pm
I whole heartidly disagree with both of your posts for this reason. A constitutionally legal order has been stopped with a political opinion, not a legal opinion, and it has been given credability and allowed to stand. This opinion has been allowed to set precidence for future political rulings by leftist politicized judges.

When a politicized judge bases his judgment not by law but through through political party ideals and it is given credability we have already lost. When a presidents plenary powers have been nullified he is no longer president. The judician system can do through one single politically motivated judge whatever it wishes based on whims or lies and not law.

This is simply judicial tyranny and nothing less. We have the power of all three branches of government, yet if one renagade leftist judge, supporting irrelevant unconstitutional arguements, can usurp the legal order of a president that is supported through constitutional law a dangerous president ALREADY has been set.

We are still following obamas illegal immigration laws are we not? Do you actually call any of this winning?

Trump lost his authority and power when a little liberal puke dressed in a black robe based a decision on a party line political viewpoint and it left the courtroom as a winning legal opinion.

Sorry, I left out the most blatantly overlooked important part. This IS NOT even about immigration.
This, as with all other leftist arguments is all about usurping the presidential powers of a president.
#273368 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:36 pm
Badstrat wrote: if one renagade leftist judge, supporting irrelevant unconstitutional arguements, can usurp the legal order of a president that is supported through constitutional law a dangerous president ALREADY has been set. .



And a new one will be set soon because of it. All I'm saying is let the process work it out, and the result will be worth the wait. To do anything else would set a precedent which wouldn't be good.

for example, the Democrats used the "nuclear option" to pass a few laws without getting any input from the Republicans. That precedent is biting them hard this week, as the GOP employed it to confirm Trump appointments, and to make Elizabeth Warren be quiet.

Now, the Dems probably wish they hadn't opened that door, but it's too late. Trump "could" be a dictator like the last President, but anything he does will be seized upon by the next President, so it's just better to let the wheels of justice roll slow and crush what is below them completely.



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#273370 by Badstrat
Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:41 pm
To me that is simply wishful thinking. Time will tell.
#273375 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:47 pm
Now we have supreme court district judges in VIOLATION OF THE LAW! CONSTITUTIONAL LAW! Holy craapp batman...

As George Washington said, "Thank God for guns"!
#273376 by MikeTalbot
Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:55 pm
Everybody on both sides of these issues is talking 'guns.' It may be too late to stop it, I hope not but boy if it goes to guns nobody is gonna be very happy.

Some examples? Sure: Argentina, Yugoslavia, Rhodesia

Talbot
#273377 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Feb 11, 2017 12:17 am
Except the LIBERAL LEFT has one little problem...
They have been so busy trying to take them away from everyone except criminals....

THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE THEM... THEY DON'T HAVE ANY!

Total proof of how stupid these American traitors are.

IT WILL BE BRUTAL!!!!!!!

But...

We don't have to do this....................
#273381 by Badstrat
Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:03 am
A gun in every home is good.



But a gun in every room is better.
#273390 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:44 am
All this because our president is calling protection of American citizens.
This is NOT a MUSLIM BAN.
This is temporary restriction, to get a better understanding, of possible persons coming to America, with only the intent to kill and harm.
If someone kicks in my locked front door... That still doesn't give ME the right to take that persons life... However that does give ME the tremendous need to make decisions about the immediate danger.
We have reached that point in America.
Doesn't anyone understand how simple it is? I think president Trump does. That may be purely my speculative opinion. If I am allowed to re-lock my front door again, I won't need to reach for a deadly solution.
If you want another 9/11...

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