General Chat (Non-Music-Related)

This wandering thread has led my mind into some strange places. Especially the Nazi speak. One post led me to this thought. For those who appear to see what is coming, how long do you suppose it is before "Hey Jude, don't be afraid" has very different connotations? Political agendas are headed in that direction more and more each day.
Perhaps a re write of the lyrics are on the horizon. This is both a political and musical post so this entry should fit right in. Right?

...Slacker G ... Nazi Speak"... excellent term and mind provoking post ... I thank you. It is always interesting to hear what you say whether it be only a couple of words or a few (which represent many in your case) ... Etu is very much like that as well. He always "translates" in this manner.

It seems that after the initial "posturing" , many on here are well aware of what is generally transpiring ... more than I initially was aware of anyway. Although they might not all agree on each and every element, I believe they do agree in basic "principle". I also think that most have not even "revealed" in totality the extent of their awareness and thoughts. I find all this comforting and dare I say "hopeful".

IBM, Ford and the "police state" tactics all have integral Nazi connections. Hey Jude/ Achtung Juden ... you are on the mark Slacker G. Prophecy Rock of the Hopi and the Georgia Guidestones are good examples of what you speak of. The last 100 years have been very "fertile" or "riddled" by the political agenda that you speak of. I believe we are well into the 12th hour now and that the nature of man the "animal" is impossible to stop at this point. Further that if any do "survive this transition of Ages then there should not be any "rebuilding" but only the creation of something new and better.

Music has a major/minor role in all this from one Age to the next. I like very much the song the child sings before he is hung in "At World's End" the 3rd Pirates of the Carribean film. Walt Disney ... Cinema ...the requirement of telling the "about to be butchered animal" what you are doing before it is done ... the taste and sustinence of fear ... a basic requirement for the evil that now plagues mankind.

Music is also very "healing" and in this respect it also has great power. Music can bring together those that do not even share a common language ... the beating of a drum, simplistically. The resulting "Gathering" in mind, body or spirit ... either individually or collectively. The "Calling" to war, to defense or to Council.

Music has a direct interface to emotions that supersedes mere speech. It can be mournful or excite even violence. It can be defiant even from the lips od a small scared child. I personally believe more in the power of music than in any fetid lying parasitical politician. Ta

I've seen some interesting things at the cinema....bloody distracting it is!!

Why my dear fellow, this IS the cinema..just not the Pee Wee Herman variety.

(Just close your eyes a little bit and you'd be surprised at where one may travel to)

I'm just glad it doesn't take 'em too long to finish so I can carry on watching the film I paid for without the sound of belt buckles clinking or the 17year old (barely) riding the dirty old man in his 50's in the back row...true story! Can't remember what film we were watching to be honest....

...12th Hour. The first of a string of restrictions which will be imposed upon "Citizen Travel" ... if you are not square with the IRS then no travel. This is only the beginning, the garret will tighten from now on.

Bullet Proof Booths ? Millions of Hollow point bullets for "Homeland" security ? Websites being taken down and banned with no explanation ? Banning gardens and selling lemonade and fresh produce ? It is going to get more and more strange than all this... just wait.

These moments are the last moments ... in which you can speak, travel or perform publicly anything that is critical of the puppets, the "government and it's minions.

The banning and burning of certain books is coming. Hate Speech labeling is coming. Outlawing religion and it's practice is coming. The murder of the young and the old is here. Veterans are the number one enemy of the state.

What was once thought to be impossible is now reality. The eyes, ears and mouths of many have already been sewn shut. Music will be considered the same as speech soon and the use of certain words will be considered "terrorist" and will be the same as using them in emails, written articles or coffee shop speak.

I know that many will consider these paragraphs as ludicrous. Everything upon the web is compiled and there has been no privacy at all on it almost from it's very conception. Everything has just been becoming more and more centralized, that is all.

There are more "inmates in California prisons than in England, France, Germany and other European countries combined... now at this very moment ... and there numbers are growing.

Does anyone else here "feel" a civil war about to take place ??? Ta

...12th Hour. The first of a string of restrictions which will be imposed upon "Citizen Travel" ... if you are not square with the IRS then no travel. This is only the beginning, the garret will tighten from now on.

if you don't pay your taxes why should you go anywhere but to jail?

Bullet Proof Booths ? Millions of Hollow point bullets for "Homeland" security ? Websites being taken down and banned with no explanation ? Banning gardens and selling lemonade and fresh produce ? It is going to get more and more strange than all this... just wait.

bullet proof booths are as old as pexiglass 1930 i believe, and my father was issued hollow points in 1975 they're safer in the city,
if you engage in commerce above a certain level you will attract the attention of the bureaucracy that dates back to 1600

These moments are the last moments ... in which you can speak, travel or perform publicly anything that is critical of the puppets, the "government and it's minions.
The banning and burning of certain books is coming. Hate Speech labeling is coming. Outlawing religion and it's practice is coming. The murder of the young and the old is here. Veterans are the number one enemy of the state.

that's a laugh. guess they forgot to do all that in china , Libya, Egypt Burma, Bahrain and so on.
and men trained to kill on sight should be watched, enemy of the state is a silly phrase.

What was once thought to be impossible is now reality. The eyes, ears and mouths of many have already been sewn shut. Music will be considered the same as speech soon and the use of certain words will be considered "terrorist" and will be the same as using them in emails, written articles or coffee shop speak.

a pitiful attempt to decive ignorant and idle minds.

I know that many will consider these paragraphs as ludicrous. Everything upon the web is compiled and there has been no privacy at all on it almost from it's very conception. Everything has just been becoming more and more centralized, that is all.

this is complete fantasie, your credit card company knows more about you than the government ever will, and that because you willfully tell them.
the reason this kind of fear mongering works on some people is because most people wish they were important enough to be watched by some one, the fact is no one cares if you live or die and it's eating your heart out.

There are more "inmates in California prisons than in England, France, Germany and other European countries combined... now at this very moment ... and there numbers are growing.

if this is a problem, why would anyone be bothered if they let them out?

Does anyone else here "feel" a civil war about to take place ??? Ta

apparently you haven't a clue what a civil war is, lol
I'll give you a hint, it involves well armed almost equally armed political factions killing each other in the streets.
Think your ready for that? are advocating this?
I mean really what the hell are saying? be a man step up!
I mean come on how old are you?
your so jealous of Jesus Christ it must be burning a hole in your mind.

it involves well armed almost equally armed political factions killing each other in the streets.

You really don't see that coming?

Think your ready for that? are advocating this?
I mean really what the hell are saying?

I don't think he's advocating for anything. Just saying that he sees it coming...and he's not the only one.

Are you aware that, in the long view of world history, this happens all the time? It seems painfully obvious to me that we're heading toward unprecedented urban warfare when the dollar crashes and/or when the next election is an epic fail. America is in a very precarious position of being dependent on our technology and economic system for the average person to survive in a civilized way.

Do you remember what happened when water and food were scarce in New Orleans? I don't think we've seen anything on the scale of what will happen nationwide if food/water/fuel become scarce yet....

None of that is fear mongering, any more than ants who prepare for the winter. It's wise to be prepared (as much as possible) when one sees a storm coming.

Though it has never happened in America before, it has happened everywhere else multiple times.

Frankly i haven't seen one shred of evidence that any armed group has formed any where in america.
at least not one that has got out of the basement with out being arrested in short order.

probably because it is totally illegal to raise organized arms in this country unless you are a employee of the state.
and such activities are immediately and effectively crushed, for very good reasons.
so nope, that will never happen.
now an individual state could do it if the say, governor of Texas to give an example, wanted to. but you can see where that would go in a hurry.
if you are seeing the forming of armed insurrection in this country I would say you are hallucinating.

out side of youth gangs which has always been a problem, could you cite an example of URBAN WARFARE that has occurred?

It is in the constitution
It is illegal to advocate the overthrow of the US government.
it is within the right and responsibility of the US government upon discovering such an organization, to obliterate it as quickly and effectively as can be contrived.

Frankly i haven't seen one shred of evidence that any armed group has formed any where in america.
at least not one that has got out of the basement with out being arrested in short order.

probably because it is totally illegal to raise organized arms in this country unless you are a employee of the state.
and such activities are immediately and effectively crushed, for very good reasons.
so nope, that will never happen.
now an individual state could do it if the say, governor of Texas to give an example, wanted to. but you can see where that would go in a hurry.
if you are seeing the forming of armed insurrection in this country I would say you are hallucinating.

out side of youth gangs which has always been a problem, could you cite an example of URBAN WARFARE that has occurred?

It is in the constitution
It is illegal to advocate the overthrow of the US government.
it is within the right and responsibility of the US government upon discovering such an organization, to obliterate it as quickly and effectively as can be contrived.

The formation (and movement) of gangs has become formidable in America and probably irreversible, thanks to the denial of law enforcement to view gangs as anything other than 'criminal'. (I.e. Evidence of this denial can be seen in how the Feds /States battled it out over the treatment of terrorist prisoners).

For years, American gangs have been infiltrated with foreign nationals, who are basically murderers and thieves of the worst kind (and essentially, rejects from their own homeland) ... For example, MS13 , a South American Latino gang, is responsible for copious amounts of gang/civilian murders in the U.S. (Funny how America always has the losers thrown at it...what we call immigration) That gang dominates many of the urban environments, nation wide. Then, we have..Counter-Gang gangs... In the Midwest /east coast, we have some home-grown wicked biker gangs... It aint pretty when those guys get on a spree. They are ruthless toward other gangs...(i.e Turf wars)

The government upholds the criminal/'Gang' definition of its affairs, in order to quell any notion that an organized militia has emerged. But at the end of the day, We are the only nation in the world where its prison system has become the HQ hub of gang operations AKA militia operations.

Our Constitution prevents us from lining them up and killing them on site. However, Enforcers of the constitution dont seem to have any problem fleecing its own good citizens to pay for that Prison system...

"It is in the constitution
It is illegal to advocate the overthrow of the US government.
it is within the right and responsibility of the US government upon discovering such an organization, to obliterate it as quickly and effectively as can be contrived."

Really?? This regime is operating outside of the constitution and against congress all the time. They support civil unrest. They race bait. They separate us into classes to instigate class warfare. They drive up oil, food, and utility costs to create discontent at the time eliminating jobs. And you don't see that?

The formation (and movement) of gangs has become formidable in America and probably irreversible, thanks to the denial of law enforcement to view gangs as anything other than 'criminal'. (I.e. Evidence of this denial can be seen in how the Feds /States battled it out over the treatment of terrorist prisoners).

For years, American gangs have been infiltrated with foreign nationals, who are basically murderers and thieves of the worst kind (and essentially, rejects from their own homeland) ... For example, MS13 , a South American Latino gang, is responsible for copious amounts of gang/civilian murders in the U.S. (Funny how America always has the losers thrown at it...what we call immigration) That gang dominates many of the urban environments, nation wide. Then, we have..Counter-Gang gangs... In the Midwest /east coast, we have some home-grown wicked biker gangs... It aint pretty when those guys get on a spree. They are ruthless toward other gangs...(i.e Turf wars)

The government upholds the criminal/'Gang' definition of its affairs, in order to quell any notion that an organized militia has emerged. But at the end of the day, We are the only nation in the world where its prison system has become the HQ hub of gang operations AKA militia operations.

Our Constitution prevents us from lining them up and killing them on site. However, Enforcers of the constitution dont seem to have any problem fleecing its own good citizens to pay for that Prison system...

I couldn't agree more,
but the question is, can and or will, the citizenry of them selves without the assistance of the state confront these groups with armed force?
doesn't seem to be any evidence of that.

Really?? This regime is operating outside of the constitution and against congress all the time. They support civil unrest. They race bait. They separate us into classes to instigate class warfare. They drive up oil, food, and utility costs to create discontent at the time eliminating jobs. And you don't see that?

The regime may be in fact guilty of these crimes and is, it seems, apparent that they are.

but again.
is there any real evidence that a single secessionist group could muster enough enough power to stop them if the constitution fails completely.
it is much more likely that Julius Caesar will succeed in life or death with the support of the people, as history shows time and time again.

actually history proves that a strong government is most favored, freedom and liberty are rarely favored by the majority of people.

Frankly i haven't seen one shred of evidence that any armed group has formed any where in america.
at least not one that has got out of the basement with out being arrested in short order.

probably because it is totally illegal to raise organized arms in this country unless you are a employee of the state.
and such activities are immediately and effectively crushed, for very good reasons.
so nope, that will never happen.
now an individual state could do it if the say, governor of Texas to give an example, wanted to. but you can see where that would go in a hurry.
if you are seeing the forming of armed insurrection in this country I would say you are hallucinating.

out side of youth gangs which has always been a problem, could you cite an example of URBAN WARFARE that has occurred?

It is in the constitution
It is illegal to advocate the overthrow of the US government.
it is within the right and responsibility of the US government upon discovering such an organization, to obliterate it as quickly and effectively as can be contrived.

What do you think the military is comprised of?
Citizens. Volunteers. People like the rest of us, who have families and friends.
There is nothing at all that would prevent factions from being formed if people were forced to take sides in a hurry.

I think even toddlers are armed in Texas - and Texans will not be on the side of any socialist or communist push.
Idaho wont. Montana - absolutely not.

Yes I see a civil war as very possible.
I see it as a red state / blue state thing, unfortunately.
The coasts against the heartland.

The L.A. riots were a little snapshot of how things can change very quickly.

Frankly i haven't seen one shred of evidence that any armed group has formed any where in america.
at least not one that has got out of the basement with out being arrested in short order.

probably because it is totally illegal to raise organized arms in this country unless you are a employee of the state.
and such activities are immediately and effectively crushed, for very good reasons.
so nope, that will never happen.
now an individual state could do it if the say, governor of Texas to give an example, wanted to. but you can see where that would go in a hurry.
if you are seeing the forming of armed insurrection in this country I would say you are hallucinating.

out side of youth gangs which has always been a problem, could you cite an example of URBAN WARFARE that has occurred?

It is in the constitution
It is illegal to advocate the overthrow of the US government.
it is within the right and responsibility of the US government upon discovering such an organization, to obliterate it as quickly and effectively as can be contrived.

What do you think the military is comprised of?
Citizens. Volunteers. People like the rest of us, who have families and friends.
There is nothing at all that would prevent factions from being formed if people were forced to take sides in a hurry.

I think even toddlers are armed in Texas - and Texans will not be on the side of any socialist or communist push.
Idaho wont. Montana - absolutely not.

Yes I see a civil war as very possible.
I see it as a red state / blue state thing, unfortunately.
The coasts against the heartland.

The L.A. riots were a little snapshot of how things can change very quickly.

all militarizes are comprised of citizens that in it self means nothing.
this is a very big country, a faction isn't going to do much of anything, cept make some drama for the internet.

Now Texas leaving the union; that would be something within the realm of imagination.
but why exactly? so they can be squashed between Mexican invasion and US ambivalence.
that would be pretty stupid. what do you suppose the casualty rate would be in that little police action?

red/blue ha! who do you suppose the navy will side with?
they can launch the 1st nukes in the shortest amount of time.
that's funny, 1 million 2 million dead over obamacare and pat downs in the airport.
come on kids..............
you'll take your wormwood like a good boy and like it.
no use asking if the air is any good if there is nothing else to breath.

la riots? what dose the ghetto community burning their own homes in rage and stupidity have to with this at all?

Really?? This regime is operating outside of the constitution and against congress all the time. They support civil unrest. They race bait. They separate us into classes to instigate class warfare. They drive up oil, food, and utility costs to create discontent at the time eliminating jobs. And you don't see that?

The regime may be in fact guilty of these crimes and is, it seems, apparent that they are.

but again.
is there any real evidence that a single secessionist group could muster enough enough power to stop them if the constitution fails completely.
it is much more likely that Julius Caesar will succeed in life or death with the support of the people, as history shows time and time again.

actually history proves that a strong government is most favored, freedom and liberty are rarely favored by the majority of people.

These regime hacks are cutting down the food supplies. These hacks are making it so you can not afford to drive. These hacks are cutting off your freedom of speech. I could go on endlessly.

When food gets scarce or too high for people to buy, how calm do you think the average citizen will be? If food supplies get cut off, and a man has no food for his hungry family, how peaceful do you think it will be in your neighborhood? This is what they are working on to take complete control over your lives.
No man with a starving family is going to peacefully ask you for anything. They will take what they want over your dead body. That is the America that I see in the future if this isn't stopped.
And if you haven't any any food they will join the regime that has taken their food in order to get fed. And if that means coming after you, no problem. This has worked over and over again in every country that has been taken over.

Seriously picture that in your mind, and then imagine that there can't be civil war in America.

Really?? This regime is operating outside of the constitution and against congress all the time. They support civil unrest. They race bait. They separate us into classes to instigate class warfare. They drive up oil, food, and utility costs to create discontent at the time eliminating jobs. And you don't see that?

The regime may be in fact guilty of these crimes and is, it seems, apparent that they are.

but again.
is there any real evidence that a single secessionist group could muster enough enough power to stop them if the constitution fails completely.
it is much more likely that Julius Caesar will succeed in life or death with the support of the people, as history shows time and time again.

actually history proves that a strong government is most favored, freedom and liberty are rarely favored by the majority of people.

These regime hacks are cutting down the food supplies. These hacks are making it so you can not afford to drive. These hacks are cutting off your freedom of speech. I could go on endlessly.

When food gets scarce or too high for people to buy, how calm do you think the average citizen will be? If food supplies get cut off, and a man has no food for his hungry family, how peaceful do you think it will be in your neighborhood? This is what they are working on to take complete control over your lives.
No man with a starving family is going to peacefully ask you for anything. They will take what they want over your dead body. That is the America that I see in the future if this isn't stopped.
And if you haven't any any food they will join the regime that has taken their food in order to get fed. And if that means coming after you, no problem. This has worked over and over again in every country that has been taken over.

Seriously picture that in your mind, and then imagine that there can't be civil war in America.

fat overfed america has along way to go, before we get to the Africa scene
but anything is possible I suppose, but as long as you feed the army 1st
there might be violence, but no civil war.