General Chat (Non-Music-Related)

Fun??
Not really. It actually makes me physically ill just thinking about.
Some people think this sh*t is entertaining. I don't.

NO IT'S NOT!

It has become ridiculous.

Trump!

This is a political discussion. This is about one side that believes in taking away to give to others. That's OK as long as it's not theirs. This is about law that is acceptable, as long as it is not applied to their own agenda. This is about a system our founding fathers warned was flawed, but the best they could come up with. This is about self determination, NOT governmental determination.

Trump is not God. He doesn't have to do this. This is not just EGO. This is an angry American that is tired of all the B.S. that is going on. He is smart enough to remember the rules of engagement, as he just showed with his endorsements, of some major players in the system, that are more concerned about covering their assess than the American people and maybe even AMERICA as a NATION.

ALWAYS REMEMBER THE END GAME.

I don't think, EVEN he realized how corrupt and unequal this whole system has become. As a man I can completely understand his frustration at this whole system. The deception coupled with the fact that the majority of people are "doing OK" so let's just remain stupid because it doesn't matter...

You have to understand what has happened. TRUMP is just a common man. Unfortunately for the establishment he has just enough money to stand up and shout. He has been very successful competing under the rules established by law. HE DOESN'T have to do this.
Myself as a common man, I DO NOT HAVE THE RESOURCES TO STAND UP TO A GOVERNMENT THAT IS NOT ONLY VIOLATING THE LAW BUT ALSO CHANGING THE LAW TO MAKE IT FIT ANTI AMERICAN AGENDAS!

TRUMP understands that... Doesn't anyone else? Does anyone care anymore?

Trump for president. I'm willing to take a chance... Much better than having an angry post menopausal law breaking white woman with her finger on the nukes...

In response to your post. You have your eye on the puppets, I have my eye on the puppeteer. When I hear snide remarks or see someone ridicule another I see the spiritual entity behind the puppet and I see who the puppet serves. The narcissist does not know he is a narcissist, and neither does the fool know he is a fool. They are both wise in their own eyes and they both serve the same master. I have known people to have memorialized most of the Bible yet they lack understanding. Studying brings little without wisdom and understanding.

"You wanna get scriptural? Let's go there because I've been studying Theology my entire life."

Well here's a big Bully Bully for you from me

"When Abram asked God to save Sodom and Gomorrah, He said He would if Abram could find ONE believer in the city. Do you think God would judge an entire nation for the faults of many if there still were spirit led people in the nation? God's will can be changed, my friend."

Please do not call me your friend in your condescending manner. I am not. I alone determine who my friends shall be.

I couldn't think of a worse scripture to chose for men changing Gods mind. Rather it depicts the very opposite.

God knew every thought and every deed of every man, and he chose to create them regardless, some for good and some for evil according to his purpose. The scripture about Abraham was such a poor example to show how man can petition God to change his mind. Your example does not take in the account that God foreknew every choice every man would make before creation.
However, if that is your example then tell me, why didn't God simply inform Abraham there wasn't one Godly man in Sodom so there wasn't any other choice to be made? Knowing that, could Abraham possibly have changed Gods mind concerning the destruction of Sodom? And you believe that was a scriptural passage depicting how Abraham could have changed Gods mind? How do we change Gods mind when God already knows what each man shall do before creation and has made his decision accordingly? Do we say I'm sorry God but I have changed therefore your omnipotent assessment of me was incorrect, you are just plain wrong. I don't think that happens. It is written that God wishes all men to be saved, yet he created some for destruction.

"What's your beef? The Isrealites wanted a King so God gave 'em Saul who raided tribes for booty and he was struck down for doing what he was told not to do. Mankind wasn't supposed to have an earthly king. They were supposed to love each other and help each other and listen to the prophets. But that didn't cut it with them so they screwed up and asked for a king."

So what's your point? God foreknew that men would elect Saul, and God made it that way in order to show them what government apart from him would be like. Look at the example that I posted earlier in Kings as to how God influences the masses of prophets. He did it with lying spirits, what's that you say? Lying Spirits? Spiritual influence? Saul was an example for us. Just as was Gods selection of pharaoh. Of Pharaoh it is written "I raised you up for this very purpose" So who chose Pharaoh? And who chose Judas, the "son of perdition"?

This election is in the bag, and Gods choice shall prevail. We are all influenced through spiritual entities in order that God will appoint his authority. By hook or crook God appoints.

Does the Holy Spirit influence the mind of the believer? Anything not done in the spirit is sin. So the spirit rules in the mind of the man who loves God, decisions that a man makes are not on his own when he walks with God. Isn't it written that the heart of man plans his way, but the LORD establishes his steps? The steps of a good man are ordered by the Lord, and he takes delight in his way. And the evil man likewise serves his master. So we do not appoint a president to office, nor do we appoint any authority to any office. Even when we win the vote it literally counts for nothing. This election should even open the eyes of a fool to that fact. The system has been corrupted through the will of the ruler of this world, not that he actually rules anything other than what God allows him to rule. There are many ways the Lord can use to put his authority into office. Hitler was Gods anointed authority set in office to serve Gods purpose. All Authority is appointed by God.

We are pawns in a spiritual conflict either on one side or the other. What was said of men being distracted from information is simply part of the spiritual conflict. Their distraction is spiritually motivated. Many that do follow politics or hear the truth still believe the lies because they love the lies for the truth is not in them. And most, not all, were destined for destruction from the beginning.

We live in a generation of evil. God will elect whom he elects. Deceived men elected obama twice for the purpose of bringing down America. Many who might have changed that election stayed home. So why did they abstain from voting, after all he could easily have been defeated? Did God direct their footsteps? I have heard that America is under judgment and is going to be brought down.

" Do you think God would judge an entire nation for the faults of many if there still were spirit led people in the nation?"

Now that's a silly question for someone who has "been studying Theology my entire life"

So you do not believe that God shall send his own to their doom. He did that to Christ, and he is our example. And you believe God would spare the land because of those who love him. Isn't it written that If you are doomed to be captured, you will be captured, and if you are doomed to be killed by a sword, you will be killed by a sword? (Sounds like predestination, doesn't it?) This means that God's people must learn to endure and be faithful!
Doesn't that scripture address the very elect who lead Godly lives? Isn't it written that ALL who live Godly lives shall be persecuted? So exactly where is this escape pod that so many claim to see? Look what happened to the apostles. How many died in bed of old age?

An example of spiritual influence on our authorities. The father of lawlessness rules the godless and it is as simple as that. There are more of them than there are of us. God would have to intervene to change things, but neither appear to be a candidate that God would set in a choice before us.

Judge Roberts was against obamacare up until the night before the verdict, and then his mind was changed during the middle of the night. Who do you suppose made him change his mind at the last moment and do something that he, by law, was not allowed to do? So we should pray for this and we should pray for that, yet God foreknew that we wouldn't. God foresaw Christianity losing its love for him, before a single thing was created. Thus the ending in the book of Revelation. You believe that Christians can change Gods mind by doing something or other and actually revise the outcome of the book of Revelations? What makes that any different than changing the fate of Sodom? We are pawns enveloped in escalating spiritual warfare. All that matters is which side we are on. This is the escalation of spiritual warfare and it is being played out with the lives of men. Satan still enters men to do his bidding.

It is what it is, spiritual warfare being made manifest in the lives of men. Those with understanding can see it, those without can not. Nothing more for me to say to change anyones mind.

What the heck do you think I'm dealing with daily with a teensy eensie little business.
I don't rely on anyone to cover my sorry little asss. I don't want anyone to cover my little sorry asss. I don't need anyone else to tell me how I should cover my sorry little asss.
Play by the rules...
Every time I play by the rules I get my asss handed to me in the form of higher taxes and regulation and fines if I don't comply to the letter of the law.
Like I said. I'm just a little guy. After turning more than a half a million in sales, I am left with a huge chunk of money...
After complying with all the laws... WTF... I should just get a job at 711.
Those laws include all the taxes that are legally collected. If I played the system I would be better off just asking for free money. WTF...I've seen it over and over WTF. You work hard and you get punished.

Trump... Basic simple trading principle... By low,sell high. Our government has gotten the the average person to believe this is WRONG and they should be taxed to the max to support the whole of society.

Sooner or later that money starts to run out... As business decides to flee the oppression of taxes and regulation to support the crooks. What is amazing is how many believe it is OK for the government to STEAL!

Thanks Jook!

Government doesn't create jobs. Government only takes money out of the economy in the form of TAXES, and distributes it in a way that will ensure re-election of the corrupt anointed.
Wall street, the demon of the world, allows evil corporations to create real goods and services. The funny thing is that along the way, real jobs are created that don't rely on TAX dollars.
Simple principle...
Buy low, sell high. Since when has it become wrong to prosper from the fruits of your labor?
Trump understands this...
TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT!

bad wall st.

Trump is not God. He doesn't have to do this. This is not just EGO.

Glen, you've said some pretty wacky things but this makes the Top Ten list. When you have a moment, look up the word "ego"....the defintion? "see Trump".

This is an angry American that is tired of all the B.S. that is going on.

and his anger qualifies him to be prez??? but true enough, that acually IS what appeals to a lot of people.

I don't think, EVEN he realized how corrupt and unequal this whole system has become.

riiight ...the guy who routinely packed his tent and left at midnight stiffing all his contractors to leave 'em swinging in the wind!


and here's another for your Top Ten list of wack things said:

TRUMP is just a common man.

yeah, right! a "common man" who flies around in his private jet, had a mindnumbing reality TV show, was given million bucks from his daddy, and no doubt has never changed the oil in his car, fixed a leaky faucet or a running toilet, he's never shopped for groceries, and worst of all...the more grievous insult of all, clearly proving that he's as far from a "common man" as it gets....he's a NY'er who actually eats his pizza, not in a pizzeria... but in a fast food chain... and he eats it w a knife a fork!!!!


"common man" my a$$.

It's about time you stepped up to the plate to take some of your best shots.... With an insult.
You are so much fun! Welcome back PG.