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#168955 by Starfish Scott
Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:55 pm
I don't know if most of the people here are that old..(gulp)

#168960 by JCP61
Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:09 pm
yea they are!

#168961 by jw123
Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:15 pm
Vamp is there a video anywhere of your performance on this song, with people coming out of coffins and such.

It didnt sink in when I listened that there would be visuals with the song, I just thought it sounded like a soundtrack sort of thing, but that makes sense.

Recording wise, I dont know why but like I said it sounds muffled like old tape overdubs or something, maybe it was position of the mics or something.

If you post anymore music, please put it in the thread title.

Have a Great Day!


Capt you are probably the youngest regular poster on here, Im not quite 50 yet, but Im damn close!

#168965 by Starfish Scott
Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:00 pm
JW, don't lie to me.
I know you are only 30 some..no point in you trying to cover up (wink).

And I am not young either, just mentally slower in a way that people think I am young. (I just can't collect disability for it) lol

They call it "immaturity" but that's just how they put ya down for being different.

I say "if they don't like it...come on in the water is fine".

#168966 by jw123
Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:13 pm
Capt I didnt say how old i was mentally just looking at the calendar man! LOL!

Honestly I feel around 30, well maybe 35, but I think my physically age has mellowed me in a lot of good ways.

Im just thankful that i wake up in the morning

#168971 by Cajundaddy
Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:49 pm
haha, top posted again... cue the clowns. :D

Yes I am afraid this is not a very fertile hunting ground for fresh recruits to the enlightened new order. Most of us are old, jaded, and we already have a team. We have all seen this stuff before.

Hmmmm, let's see if any of these are a good fit:
http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/checklis.htm
#168987 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Wed Mar 28, 2012 6:17 pm
Vampier wrote:..
Yod ... I prefer to believe that you are honestly interested and not merely just being "nice" since no one here is really "nice". But if you are please let me know as I could spend my time and words in another vein so to speak.


not really sure what that means...but it's rare that I'm accused of being "nice".

I believe we're all made in the image of God and therefore every person is worthy of respect and honor. I also believe that being offended is as bad a sin as being offensive. You have thick skin to repel all the insults..and that tells me you are a pro who has been at this for a while.

Those who lead are rarely understood by those who follow; or as I like to say "Some people are the boss and some people are the hoss". I know exactly what you're talking about but you can't expect that everyone will (as I'm sure you already know).






Music is an effective "bridge" between cultures, philosophies, thought and desire. It can be an expression, an account, a statement or a tribute. It is both a noun and a verb at the same time. It is a powerful force that can change the world like no other with the exception of thermonuclear explosions.



While I agree with this, I believe it's much broader than "music" and more accurately it is the "WRITERS" who change the world. Some of them write music. One only has to look to the Beatles and see how songwriters changed the culture of every nation that had radios.





As a musician you have a certain degree of power and influence that extends far beyond self-determination. Very rarely is this used but when it has been it changes things. Musicians are powerful and strong should they choose to be.


Most people who call themselves "musician" are doing it for the fun of it, which is where it should start. Very few get to the point of having the sphere of influence that can change the world around them...and yet this small amount of people do have influence much larger than their numbers would indicate. My guess is that half of them aren't really trying to change anything, but it has always been the extreme people leading anyway.

Middle of the road gets run over on the highway.



Guillotines purchased by baby Bush from China years ago... stainless steel and paid for with public money ? Why does the government need loads of them? Fema Camps, trains, buses and forces ? What can they be for other than extermination and slaughter ? Increase awareness through music, performance and action ... futile ? noble ? You decide. Read the news and connect the dots and you will realize that extermination is happening. If you speak back to police now your words are considered assault ? Welcome to the Machine ...awesome song.



one would have to be utterly naive with their head in the sand not to see that major upheavals are coming to the human race in a short time.

I don't speculate on what those camps are for because there will be a need for them if we got nuked in major cities. Guillotines could be for our enemies, as far as we really know.

But yes, I do see a totalitarian government already in place which is now tightening the noose. If they get another 4 years, we will find out what the agenda always was.

Not that I think Romney is a good candidate...but I don't think he is a racist totalitarian dictator as our current President ABSOLUTELY is.
#168993 by Vampier
Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:06 pm
...JCP61 ... I thank you for your kind responses. Are you familiar with Agenda 21 ? In 1996 UN papers spoke of many things as well as human sacrifice. One just has to read and research a little.

...I never mentioned Europe but you are closer than you think in that respect. Under no circumstances would I ever wish to "lead" you or anyone else under the conditions you state. Neither do I have any interest in any percentage of mythical money. You merely prove my point of view with your statements and imagination. Your interpretation could possibly use some work but we all suffer from jaded perspective when we are angry.

...I have always been ostracized all of my life so being "left out" presents no issue with me , rather it is my desire. Neither do I claim "to see it all". But I do believe musicians are special and this is distinct from myself or my existence. Why do you not understand what I say ? The Constitution and Bill of Rights are being dismantled and soon will be made irrelevant. Your life will be taken away along with your guitars.

...The 60's ??? Once again ... I never mentioned the 60's. What you have just displayed for all to see is a great degree of looking at everything through your own ego. You actually believe that everything I speak of is based within the parameters of your small and short life ??? When I speak of the power of music and musicians ... I speak of a vibrant multicultural history of thousands of years.

...I was in school during the 60's, singing solo's and in the school choir. The Beatles were called "hippies" where I was.. I ask what is your interpretation based upon ...my words or your narrow view possibly driven for some strange reason by your anger ? I do not think even "special people" can understand where you are getting your perspective and motivation. I can understand and accept that you you may disagree with what I say but in order to do that you must really "understand" what I speak of. Sorry but I think your insults demonstrate a severe lack of "understanding". My thoughts are not that "deep" when you can see their justification all around in media and events.

...Guillotines ... I never stated that they would become the tools of mass execution did I ? There are already many methods more effective which have been in place for years ...some of which I did mention.

...Your statements regarding the "Illusion" that I speak of ... only proves my point further I feel. Once again ... when I speak of the "matrix" I am not even referring to the "movie". I do like however what you say about "worshipping at the altar of hollywood" because Hollywood's celebraties are in fact a part of the "New Religion" I think..

...Yes I do realize what you state about the average age here. Once again you fail to understand ... Experienced minds that have set proven beliefs and are not "young and empty" are precisely those who should lead and possess the clarity of what is happening. I agree that some younger musicians fit your description only too well but I must take exception at the same time because not all are such. Many are aware, awake and angry and as such need confirmation and perspective which should be provided ny those older more experienced and capable.

Also I would like to mention that "Vampier stuff" has existed in every ancient culture upon this planet well in advance of the "cult of cartoon death" but at the same time you are correct I feel that there are many youth into the "cartoon".

Death and Virgins ... I did not speak of virgins but in my experience with them I never victimized them ... I only did what was natural so to speak.Neither did I mention anywhere about not being able to die. Death comes for everyone even vampires and is js just as natural as birth. Both can be beautiful things.

Religion ... once again as I have stated before I do not believe in the "devil" especially in reference to modern vampire myth. Evil is in all of us ... think about it in reference to yourself. We have all done or are doing evil things. I am what is called a Pagan. I have addressed this in previous posts.

... I am not seeking to get loads of "recruits" here. As I have stated before I will be fortunate to get into contact with one or two musicians ... young or old or middleaged, that are of similiar ilk. My "activities" extend far beyond this site. I do not compliment or "agree" with those here for any hidden agenda ... I simply say how I feel. Perhaps the only thing I may recieve from this site is a friend or two and the opportunity to cause some "thought" and "discussion" about music, life and reality in respect to the future ... things that may not otherwise have occurred. That is justification enough for me.

Soon the time will come when I shall "depart" the Internet and please have a drink for me when I do. I urge you and others to do some research and talk to some young musicians. Do not become a miserable old hermit at any rate. Once again I do thank you for taking the time to go through my post and tell me what you think. You are entitled to your perspectives and I shall always respect that right. Ta
#168996 by JCP61
Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:09 pm
Vampier wrote:...JCP61 ... I thank you for your kind responses. Are you familiar with Agenda 21 ? In 1996 UN papers spoke of many things as well as human sacrifice. One just has to read and research a little.



Please don't allude to agenda 21
please quote from agenda 21
#169001 by Vampier
Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:35 pm
...JW123 ... I thank you for your interest. Yes I have video of all of my productions since returning to the US. There are many formats involved over the years from 9mm film to various video...1/2 "... 3/4"...1" andmore modern digital formats.

Regarding the music there are some rehearsal CD's with vocals more out front . We had to experiment quite a bit. If I post more music I will include it in the title as per your request.

I am currently getting my Art Studio together and in this process I will be able to get all the musical elements together. Perhaps if you are interested I can send you something video/music wise. The shows were a blast, often quite funny things happened. I thank you for your interest. There were several newspaper articles with photos on the Internet at one time. I will see if they are still there and perhaps post links here. Once again thanks.
#169002 by Vampier
Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:43 pm
...is this because it will save you from having to read it yourself ? Read it and you will be very surprised perhaps. Ta
#169004 by Vampier
Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:07 pm
...Good to hear from you. Yod, I thank you for your response and must apologize for any consternation I may have caused in respect to you. I did it merely to prove a point and it really oviously had nothing to do with you which was my belief all along.

Your words are wise as usual and most appreciated. You take it to a higher level with your reference to "writers". And your appraisal of "musicians" is a good one as well I believe.

Unfortunately there are great numbers of "utterly naive". And one thing is certain... guillotines are for chopping heads whatever the perspective. The big question here is why ???

Politics ... I respect what you have said but I believe that the 2 Party System is just a ruse to keep the masses occupied and is in reality only one. $ years will most certainly be very revealing indeed. Ta

#169005 by Starfish Scott
Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:11 pm
Vampier, thank you for double spacing your message.

It's a heck of a lot easier to read now.

I don't know if I agree or disagree, but it's nice to be able to read it.
#169011 by JCP61
Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:27 pm
Vampier wrote:...is this because it will save you from having to read it yourself ? Read it and you will be very surprised perhaps. Ta


Image

#169013 by jw123
Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:31 pm
Hey JC, do you have one showing someone with a paddle stirring sh*t?

Maybe you could make one yourself, oh yeah you already have!

LOL

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