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#216381 by JMZCustomGuitars
Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:45 pm
Vampier wrote:...THESE MOMENTS ARE THE LAST DURING WHICH YOU CAN CHOOSE...

John I thank you for your short Post. Normally a short Post is relatively easily understood. In this case it is not. For me it is not even easy for me "to suffer". The name of this thread was intentional and much consideration went into selecting it in order to satisfy the requirement and needs of being able to relate it to certain pre-chosen subjects.

Your "suggestions" have the same relevance as if I were to suggest you make 5 string guitars and cease making 6 string ones. You convey the Fool and one who panders. Be warned that these times will not "suffer" this lightly.

Regarding your reading abilities ... I ask ... do you ever read a book or do you find them far too lengthy and unrewarding ? In some ways you appear to lack confidence. I believe that one either has confidence or does not.

Solution ... Merely do not read my Posts or any that seem "too long" for you.


Hey man I can make 5 string bass guitars?

Sorry dude, post still too long so I only picked up on the guitar thing....

cheers!

John
#216409 by Vampier
Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:26 am
...John ... no problem ... good luck to you and keep making those guitars ... as long as you can ... 5 string, 6 string or otherwise. I thank you for your Post.
#216509 by Vampier
Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:43 pm
....some of us knew ... very few did not know ...a portion did not care...most denied and now it has become so very obvious that the Evil has emerged in full view and even all the "Jimmys" amongst you can no longer say there is no Police State, Tyranny or Evil. Yes some of you may "waffle" on in fear and stupidity but it is far too late for everyone now.

Are you going to cease playing Robert Zimmerman songs in your "Cover Bands" now ? Some may suffer Stockholm Syndrome but even that is a poor excuse. Many "musicians" have always considered themselves "Rebels" and used this mask to justify not working, leaching, and being generally lazy, irresponsible and doing crazy things ... drinking, drugging and f______. These are not nor have they ever been Rebels...they are only cowards. I am not saying that anyone here is or is not a "Rebel" nor a coward. But very soon even if you do not really know yourself ... you will be finding out.

Before any of you become angry in denial I urge you to read this Post and process it in you brains, hearts and within the scope of your Spirituality. Understand that I Post this not to say I told you so but to ReAwaken your ass and cause you to be aware and I do it primarily out of concern for you all and Love for Humanity. This is only the beginning of a series of "events" which will increase until you will long to return to the moment you read this. The plotting of the latest Bilderberg Coven Meeting has now come to it's dubious conclusion and the minions are being given their orders ... the pawns will begin moving on the Grand Board. The river will flow faster and faster. PREPARE



These are quotes from the latest whistle blower ...



#1 “The majority of people in developed countries spend at least some time interacting with the Internet, and Governments are abusing that necessity in secret to extend their powers beyond what is necessary and appropriate.”
#2 “…I believe that at this point in history, the greatest danger to our freedom and way of life comes from the reasonable fear of omniscient State powers kept in check by nothing more than policy documents.”
#3 “The government has granted itself power it is not entitled to. There is no public oversight. The result is people like myself have the latitude to go further than they are allowed to.”
#4 “…I can’t in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy, internet freedom and basic liberties for people around the world with this massive surveillance machine they’re secretly building.”
#5 “The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything.”
#6 “With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting. If I wanted to see your e-mails or your wife’s phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your e-mails, passwords, phone records, credit cards.”
#7 “Any analyst at any time can target anyone. Any selector, anywhere… I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge, to even the President…”
#8 “To do that, the NSA specifically targets the communications of everyone. It ingests them by default. It collects them in its system and it filters them and it analyzes them and it measures them and it stores them for periods of time simply because that’s the easiest, most efficient and most valuable way to achieve these ends. So while they may be intending to target someone associated with a foreign government, or someone that they suspect of terrorism, they are collecting YOUR communications to do so.”
#9 “I believe that when [senator Ron] Wyden and [senator Mark] Udall asked about the scale of this, they [the NSA] said it did not have the tools to provide an answer. We do have the tools and I have maps showing where people have been scrutinized most. We collect more digital communications from America than we do from the Russians.”
#10 “…they are intent on making every conversation and every form of behavior in the world known to them.”
#11 “Even if you’re not doing anything wrong, you’re being watched and recorded. …it’s getting to the point where you don’t have to have done anything wrong, you simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call, and then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you’ve ever made, every friend you’ve ever discussed something with, and attack you on that basis, to sort of derive suspicion from an innocent life.”
#12 “Allowing the U.S. government to intimidate its people with threats of retaliation for revealing wrongdoing is contrary to the public interest.”
#13 “Everyone everywhere now understands how bad things have gotten — and they’re talking about it. They have the power to decide for themselves whether they are willing to sacrifice their privacy to the surveillance state.”
#14 “I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under.”
#15 “I don’t want to live in a world where there’s no privacy, and therefore no room for intellectual exploration and creativity.”
#16 “I have no intention of hiding who I am because I know I have done nothing wrong.”
#17 “I had been looking for leaders, but I realized that leadership is about being the first to act.”
#18 “There are more important things than money. If I were motivated by money, I could have sold these documents to any number of countries and gotten very rich.”
#19 “The great fear that I have regarding the outcome for America of these disclosures is that nothing will change. [People] won’t be willing to take the risks necessary to stand up and fight to change things… And in the months ahead, the years ahead, it’s only going to get worse. [The NSA will] say that… because of the crisis, the dangers that we face in the world, some new and unpredicted threat, we need more authority, we need more power, and there will be nothing the people can do at that point to oppose it. And it will be turnkey tyranny.”
#20 “I will be satisfied if the federation of secret law, unequal pardon and irresistible executive powers that rule the world that I love are revealed even for an instant.”
#21 “You can’t come up against the world’s most powerful intelligence agencies and not accept the risk.”
#22 “I know the media likes to personalize political debates, and I know the government will demonize me.”
#23 “We have got a CIA station just up the road – the consulate here in Hong Kong – and I am sure they are going to be busy for the next week. And that is a concern I will live with for the rest of my life, however long that happens to be.”
#24 “I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions, and that the return of this information to the public marks my end.”
#25 “There’s no saving me.”
#26 “The only thing I fear is the harmful effects on my family, who I won’t be able to help any more. That’s what keeps me up at night.”
#27 “I do not expect to see home again.”



Main Core is the code name of a database maintained since the 1980s by the federal government of the United States. Main Core contains personal and financial data of millions of U.S. citizens believed to be threats to national security. The data, which comes from the NSA, FBI, CIA, and other sources, is collected and stored without warrants or court orders. The database’s name derives from the fact that it contains “copies of the ‘main core’ or essence of each item of intelligence information on Americans produced by the FBI and the other agencies of the U.S. intelligence community.”



According to a senior government official who served with high-level security clearances in five administrations, “There exists a database of Americans, who, often for the slightest and most trivial reason, are considered unfriendly, and who, in a time of panic, might be incarcerated. The database can identify and locate perceived ‘enemies of the state’ almost instantaneously.” He and other sources tell Radar that the database is sometimes referred to by the code name Main Core. One knowledgeable source claims that 8 million Americans are now listed in Main Core as potentially suspect. In the event of a national emergency, these people could be subject to everything from heightened surveillance and tracking to direct questioning and possibly even detention.
Of course, federal law is somewhat vague as to what might constitute a “national emergency.” Executive orders issued over the last three decades define it as a “natural disaster, military attack, [or] technological or other emergency,” while Department of Defense documents include eventualities like “riots, acts of violence, insurrections, unlawful obstructions or assemblages, [and] disorder prejudicial to public law and order.” According to one news report, even “national opposition to U.S. military invasion abroad” could be a trigger.
So if that list contained 8 million names all the way back in 2008, how big might it be today?



Dating back to the 1980s and known to government insiders as “Main Core,” the database reportedly collects and stores — without warrants or court orders — the names and detailed data of Americans considered to be threats to national security. According to several former U.S. government officials with extensive knowledge of intelligence operations, Main Core in its current incarnation apparently contains a vast amount of personal data on Americans, including NSA intercepts of bank and credit card transactions and the results of surveillance efforts by the FBI, the CIA and other agencies. One former intelligence official described Main Core as “an emergency internal security database system” designed for use by the military in the event of a national catastrophe, a suspension of the Constitution or the imposition of martial law.



A host of publicly disclosed programs, sources say, now supply data to Main Core. Most notable are the NSA domestic surveillance programs, initiated in the wake of 9/11, typically referred to in press reports as “warrantless wiretapping.” In March, a front-page article in the Wall Street Journal shed further light onto the extraordinarily invasive scope of the NSA efforts: According to the Journal, the government can now electronically monitor “huge volumes of records of domestic e-mails and Internet searches, as well as bank transfers, credit card transactions, travel, and telephone records.” Authorities employ “sophisticated software programs” to sift through the data, searching for “suspicious patterns.” In effect, the program is a mass catalog of the private lives of Americans. And it’s notable that the article hints at the possibility of programs like Main Core. “The [NSA] effort also ties into data from an ad-hoc collection of so-called black programs whose existence is undisclosed,” the Journal reported, quoting unnamed officials. “Many of the programs in various agencies began years before the 9/11 attacks but have since been given greater reach.”
The following information seems to be fair game for collection without a warrant: the e-mail addresses you send to and receive from, and the subject lines of those messages; the phone numbers you dial, the numbers that dial in to your line, and the durations of the calls; the Internet sites you visit and the keywords in your Web searches; the destinations of the airline tickets you buy; the amounts and locations of your ATM withdrawals; and the goods and services you purchase on credit cards. All of this information is archived on government supercomputers and, according to sources, also fed into the Main Core database.



“We know all this already,” I stated. He looked at me, giving me a look like I’ve never seen, and actually pushed his finger into my chest. “You don’t know jack,” he said, “this is bigger than you can imagine, bigger than anyone can imagine. This administration is collecting names of sources, whistle blowers and their families, names of media sources and everybody they talk to and have talked to, and they already have a huge list. If you’re not working for MSNBC or CNN, you’re probably on that list. If you are a website owner with a brisk readership and a conservative bent, you’re on that list. It’s a political dissident list, not an enemy threat list,” he stated.

#216523 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:02 pm
That was an excellent post Vamp.

#216566 by Slacker G
Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:18 pm
The beast does not have a mirror with which to view itself, consequently it does not know it is the beast.
#216582 by Vampier
Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:59 pm
RESPONSIBILITY and DUTY

As Musicians we are crafters of a Universal Language. Many of our words are metaphors. In our songs there can be much emotion, prophecy and Truth. I believe that emotion connects the physical with the Spiritual for Humanity. Prophecy is the result of relating this connection. Truth is simply Truth. In the same way as there exist genetic or physical codes (DNA as an example of such)... there also exists Spiritual or prophetic codes (Biblical codes are an example of this).

Metaphysical Interpretation is a language seperate to itself. As any language it is subject to misinterpretation ... editing ... mistranslation. The lyrics of a song are every bit as important as it's notes and chords and also the manner in which they are sung. The combination of these create the emotional connection. This can illicit anything from crying to aggressive violence. This vibration of sound ... lyrical and musical ... is undeniable. It's effect within the Physical and Spiritual realms is equally undeniable. This endows the Musician with certain responsibility.

Many are unaware of this. Some Musicians are as Magicians while others are idiot savants. Others it seems have a great awareness ... to such an extent it is considered instinctual. Hendrix I feel is an excellent example of this instinctual ability. The source of this instinct is open to discussion but remains unchallenged in it's existence.

I believe in Humans such instinct is generally more highly evolved than in any animal. But I also believe that those portions of largely "unused" brain are not in fact "developing" but are atrophing from misuse ... pollution ... poison ... drugs. This atrophy is affecting us all in one way or another. Denial of this amounts to a Proclamation of Stupidity.

I urge those who have interest to check out the human pineal gland. This connects many dots as they say.

Failure is not acceptable in the creative process . INTENTION AND ABILITY not IGNORANCE AND EXCUSE. A costing, price or bargain does not apply in the process of pure unadulterated Creation. This is done on a level most high and far beyond these considerations. Even at an auction Art does not lose or gain it's True Value. When carrionfight over food the True Value of that food as it lived is not affected.

As Musicians we have a responsibility ... at least those of us that understand. I am not saying that as such everthing we do must be prophetic and of great proportion. The ability to entertain, please and spread happiness is also included.

PRISMS work both ways. Light travels as sound ... directionally. As such these may be directed ... directed for good ... directed for evil. This direction and this creation is the Responsibility I speak of. These can be "bent" or even reflected. But when this happens there is a change ... a loss ... sometimes slight and others very great. This is most true in the case of refletion .

Through Lies and Blood ... tentacles of control are extending throughout the entire planet. This has turned governments into cesspools of depravity ... churches into nests of sin ... Man back into animal. This new Empire of Evil far outstrips it's ancient version in Babylonia.

Mystery Babylon has dropped her veil ... Kali is dancing

There is a Tainted Bloodline and it is Evil. The only thing it can create is evil. It's wors and sounds travel in a singular direction ... an Evil Direction. They corrupt all that is touched by them. They have now corrupted the Future. Some Musicians are Heralds ... others Watchers ... some are Epic ... some are Legend.

Use your "power" for it is much greater than you think. Raise up your purpose from the fetid filthy mud of commercialism and truly touch some people. You need not be political just humanistic. Some may be radical but most need only gently nudge ... create thought ... express Truth ... show concern and Love. Generate a sense of community and make others not feel isolated nor alone against the world. Even show fierceness and Bravery. Be understanding and an example ... True to Your Self.

Any who create in this way are Warriors ... Creation is a Sacred and Spiritual Act. It's process is metaphysical transcending the Physical. Define you Code and proclaim it. Find your Way and take it. Rally those around you ... cause them thought. Many of you are in fact doing this and I salute you .

"In the last days, the wicked shall do wickedly and none of the wicked shall understand. "

Daniel 12:10


Cease your argument about politics and religion and come together on the reality around you. These are the Last Moments you may do so freely.


"The wise shall understand"



...I thank you Glenn for your kind words and Post. Slacker you are correct and that is why I have said that the time has come to come together with those of like ilk and not spend needless energies on converting or convincing others . As things "progress" those few who have not been given over completely may ralize the Truth and Reality.

#216592 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Wed Jun 12, 2013 10:14 pm
Stephan, you covered a large range of ideas in that post wether you realize it, or it was intentional. Cool.

I guess you have it right... when there comes a time when it is not worth the effort of wasting resources.

You brought up many interesting thoughts.

Good wishes friend.

GLEN WITH ONE N. :)

#216600 by MikeTalbot
Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:11 pm
People like these wretches love to make lists...Their master strokes their fur and shoves money and privileges at them - and then the masters begin to use the lists...

This started under Bush apparently and had 8 million people on the Main Core list when he left office. Under Obama one might reasonably assume that number has grown substantially. BTW whatever happened to 'Echelon' which was so controversial under Clinton? Did they just rename it "PRISM?"

Nope. Nothing new under the sun.

My two least favorite historical villains, larger than life, than death itself, are Heinrich Himmler and Lavrenti Beria. (the Nazi and Commie hangmen, respectively)

They watched everyone. Apartment buildings even had a part time spy - nobody trusted anybody. Soon they had collected so much data, and knew pretty much that everyone was bent in some way. The Paranoia machine volume button only goes up, never down. They dimed it.

Those watched were inevitably denounced as villains. Class traitors. Subversives. Counter revolutionaries. Jews. Christians. Fascists. Communists.

Without computers or cell phones those two guys wiped out somewhere between twenty and forty million people. Their boss (Hitler or Stalin) would say, "I think group 'x' are disloyal." That would be the end of Group 'x.' The data would always seem to show that yeah, these folks had issues. Data will always say what you want it to say. Adios muchachos.

That kind of data gathering and surveillance is wrong on so many levels - but the worst to me, is the temptation to power to use that data to rule, and ultimately to murder.

Epilogue:

Today we had the appalling spectacle of Chancellor Merkel of Germany former Stasi informer; and Vladimir Putin of Russia - former KGB colonel, rebuking the president of the USA for overdoing the surveillance procedures. It seems like the world has flipped upside down.

Talbot

#216603 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Wed Jun 12, 2013 11:33 pm
I thought you were not going to get upset by stuff like this Mike.

Careful now... the only defense to allow this is... is to call you paranoid, and worse.

Peg has already used your posts to support a liberal view... That has no concern of the TRUTH that OUR government has already usurped the LAW OF THE LAND by VIOLATING the 1st 2nd 3rd 4th and abusing the 5th in front of all congress.

She has the right to openly speak, however she is using it to spew lawless lies. That is intolerable.

What she thinks of me on a personal level is her gig... The harm she can cause to my children... because of her liberal thinking, is a whole 'NOTHER GIG!
#216615 by JMZCustomGuitars
Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:56 am
Vampier wrote:...John ... no problem ... good luck to you and keep making those guitars ... as long as you can ... 5 string, 6 string or otherwise. I thank you for your Post.


Thanks Dude!

cheers!

John

#216625 by MikeTalbot
Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:52 am
Talbot a liberal? :D

I've been called a lot of things, but never that.

I used to write a column for a rather large libertarian website - Lew Rockwell.com.

You can see my archive and determine for your self if I'm a liberal. 8)
http://www.lewrockwell.com/peirce/peirce-arch.html

Pain in the ass? Yeah, that's me. I offended the left, the right, the Christians and the atheists and even addressed the John Rocker crisis. (small town relief pitcher annoys NYC subway riders) I'm sure I'll offend you and others in one column or another. But at least read my Waco piece - that one meant something to me.

Then I felt I'd said all that needed sayin' (seventy columns) on various subjects that I felt mattered. I got that done, was well received and learned a lot from doing it - particularly in a couple instances where I got some numbers wrong and felt like an ass.

I've also learned, through correspondence with readers who disagreed with me, that sometimes my critic's opinions are founded on facts that I hadn't considered or been aware of. It taught me to separate emotion from exposition.

Ultimately, I began to repeat myself and got tired of my own voice.

So I moved on. I don't want that sort of thing to consume me or own me. I'd said what I thought needed saying.

I've said what I had to say to millions of readers. You may not agree with me but you can't say I don't lay it out the way I think it is.

That's not selling out amigo. I just didn't want to become a boor.

Talbot
#216640 by Vampier
Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:47 am
"There will be, in the next generation or so a pharmacological method of making people lose their servitude and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution."

Aldous Huxley


Listen .... Hear ...Depart

Time will be no more...

This is the Hour of Extreme Danger

Do not be silent in action

We face the Greatest Peril

There will come a time of No Mercy

The time you send your Last Message

There have been many Solemn Warnings

To leave the Fallen Places

To abandon such ways

To avoid the coming plagues

Soon there will come your own Final Warning

To avoid destruction by finding shelter

The cities offer no protection ...

The governments none

Our Dying World is rife with deception

You can hear them ... see them ... taste them ... smell them ... feel them ...

These Deceptions all around

Your Ultimate Delusion

Many are blinded by their very Spirituality

Manipulated by differing dictated belief ... used

Some believe in the Pope ... others not

Thinking that which others believe ...

Or not believe ... does not apply to them

Some worship on the seventh day and others not

Some worship on the sixth day while others do not

But very few worship each day ... yet multitudes never on any day

The multitude reject one another because each holds some belief ...

The other does not ... thinking themselves Spiritually Superior

Superior from everyone else ?

They all percieve their own beliefs as Truth

This is spiritual blindness and eternal suicide

Light can be blinding

Do not let your mind be bound

No one of us knows all Truths

Pride creates Spiritual Blindness

Those thinking they are rich are poor

Those feeling secure share the same great dangers as all of us

Many belive this to be the Final Generation

Many more are "lukewarm" or scoff

The ignorant ignore ... the decieved deny ...

The Evil scoffs ... and I wonder why

Better naked than clothed with shame

One can not eat or drink any gold

Fire will only refine and define me

All that will be revealed is the Evil

Come out away from this Evil and be seperate

Heed these Final Warnings before the LAST

No belief is exempt from what comes

But Denunciation of Evil is prerequisite

You may deny but then you shall die ...

For this transgression of Spirit ... none spared

There is Right and there is Evil

Discern them ... do not be blind

Do not forsake your Self nor your Spirit

Know your Way before ...

Hear the Calling of your Ancestors

Honour this ... Honour your Self

Embrace your fears ... not deny them

Be Brave ... no Coward

Do not turn away from the Truth of your reality

Think your own thoughts

Speak your own words

For your Death approaches riding swift ...

Upon the Great dark Storm

Restore your Self ... your Spirit in these last moments

Those who do can resist and survive ...

The Places of Waste as they grow old

The Coming Age must be raised ...

From some foundation that the Breach has passed over

Most remain unawares ...

They are immersed ... polluted ... damaged ...blinded

Many more are empty shells ... possessing no seed

All organized Religions of the world suffer this

All political systems of the world suffer this

These are The Last Moments ...

That you may change your Life ... making it Spiritual

This is Higher than the Physical and impacts us all

It must begin however within the Physical ...

Within the Self

This must now take absolute precedence ...

Over your work ... your goals ... your education ...

Your habits and lifestyle ... your diet ... your dress ...

What you do for entertainment ... even your friendships ...

your associations

You must find your Self and cleanse it

You must find your Path and take it

You must discover your Code and follow it

This World ... This Age is Fallen ...

It is beyond redemption

Failure to abandon it is Delusion

Failure to prepare for the next ...

Is irresponsible and unforgiving

You must prepare to leave this World ...

This Age ... and ready your Self for the next

It matters not which religion you possess ...

Which political system you believe

Forget the trappings of this Dead Age

They will be no more

You can not take any of these through the Portal you face

The opinions of others shall disappear

You must become Seperate

If you do not ...

You will lose your Eternal existence ...

Your Spiritual Life

Do not let others convict you in this

This is Eternal Consequence not of the Physical ...

The animal ... not of this world

Choose between what is of the Physical ...

What is of the Spiritual

Whatever existence you inherit after this ...

Depends upon what you do now

Take up this Responsibility of Self

Prepare your Self physically and Spiritually

Seek the Few ... the very few ...

Who search within this growing Darkness

Those who can read the writing in the skies

Those who would depart the unclean places

Before the dying cities become prisons ...

Death Camps ... impossible to leave.

Listen to the wail of the political "Leaders"...

The Mass Media ... the sirens ...

All warning of "That Which Approaches"

You are being watched ...

Monitored by the growing Evil

You are ripe for Harvest

Soon you will be of no value ...

Just as the coveted pocket paper

When you hear the sound of Death ... it will be too late

There is a global crisis growing ... no longer does it loom

Food ... Water ... buying ... selling ... confiscating ... invasion ...

Restriction ... rationing ... curfew ... incarceration ...

Visions ... glimpses ... before the End

All painful to consider

The alarm of War has sounded ...

Not to cease

Everywhere on Earth people are being Killed ...

Maimed ... Starved ... Plundered ... Tortured ... Taken

There is the destruction of what is ...

Amidst great greed and greater apathy

Unheeded warnings by the foolish ...

Who enable ... sucumbing to the Great Evil

They pretend no knowledge but most do

The Earth becomes desolate like the hearts of many

Growing riots as nations fall ... bloodshed under false banner

There is murder and the eating of children

Ravishment ... cruelty ... immorality ... Lies

There can be no wisdom ever ... in denial

Ask only for those whose Duty is as yours

The Time Of Warning is past

Now is the time for action

The Time of Coming out

You may think you lack the means or incapable ...

When all you really lack is wisdom and resolve

Only you may enable your Self in these Last Moments

Soon such migration will become doomed panic

When this ocurs there will be no stabilization ...

Only government control

Those who do not obey will perish

Those who attempt to depart will perish

The Strategem has long been laid

The board is set

The only Terror will be the continuity of government

Which translates into ... Criminality ... Controlled Chaos

Communities take time to construct ... to create

Little time remains ... these are the Last Moments

Annihilation does not create community

Clans and tribes from the earliest times ...

Spawned the Dance of Creativity ...

The Quest for Higher Conciousnes

Reme,ber what you know

Emotions connect the Physical with the Spiritual

The ultimate tyranny is not control by Martial Law ...

It is control by physical manipulation of conciousness ...

Through which reality ( the physical ) is defined

Those existing within it do not even realize their imprisonment

They do not understand what is outside of their existence

Few venture outside this ...

Never to dwell there

Push your conciousness to give it new definition

Do not be enslaved

ReAwaken and transform

It has been hundreds of thousands of years

There is no Salvation in Slavery

The Emergency is here .... the wait is over

There remains no valid excuse any longer

The door is quickly closing

Likely Infrastructure, Grid and Nuclear meltdown

Technological and Medical Dependence and inability exposed

Immediacy requires that any relocation must now be made

Travel Restriction ... Confiscation of Passports ... Emergency Measures

Quarantine ... Secret Arrest ... Assassination

Economic and Financial Collapse ... Agenda 21

Commerce will cease

The level of complexity grows every second... every instant ... every moment

2% feeds 90% of US populations

The Time for Strategic Relocation is over

Now it is Strategic Evacuation and Retreat

Very soon it will become Tactical

These Last Moments are "borrowed" moments

Do not let them become lost moments

Do not be alone

Commit your Self to action ... Now

" It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly."

Henry David Thoreau

#216699 by Slacker G
Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:42 pm
The day is nearing when you shall either have to give up your belief or your life.

The Godly are a millstone around the necks of the wicked and those who love freedom are stumbling blocks to tyrants.

But what is life without freedom once one has tasted freedom? And what is life without Godliness?

Realization of those truths make the decision far easier.

#216801 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:21 am
My repeated warnings about the growing police state and the rise of benevolent totalitarianism have often been greeted with charges of fear mongering or tin foil-hattery, first from supporters of the George W. Bush regime and now from supporters of the undocumented usurper who sits in the people’s house.
America is on life support. Unless the leviathan government is torn down to its Constitutional foundation, the country will rip itself apart. It may well be too late to prevent it.
The government, through its alphabet soup agencies and its surveillance apparatus, are terrorizing the American people. Terrorizing by government cannot survive against a well armed citizenry. That is why the elected class have pushed so hard to disarm the populace and why the Department of Homeland Security has been militarizing itself at breakneck speed.

This is for all the stupid people that have no clue, this is only a tiny part of the equation. If the many care to call this doom and gloom, so be it. If the many, wish to continue collecting from a government that positions itself to not only steal money, but self respect, personal liberty, and the very foundations of freedom... then so be it.

The value of US dollars is collapsing at breakneck speed. Last week oil prices dropped dramatically across the world, but a weakened dollar drove them up in America.

Enough said... for now.
#216877 by Vampier
Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:11 pm
Prepare ....

Glen ... my apologies yet again. I had a friend named Glenn in CA and I lapsed into placing two n's by habit not intention. But I am pleased to be corrected as perhaps I will in my current primitive state eventually "get it". I appreciate what you state regarding my Post. I know it is alot for some to read but for others like yourself it is appreciated and at times thought provoking so this makes it well worth it to me. I am Posting more than usual but I intend to cease my diatribes in August sometime. I thank you for your Posts.

Talbot ... I loved your words and views ... True and straight to the point as usual. Data mining ... Daa gathering ... Data storing ... Data upon Data creating Data Strata ... the busy work of Tyrants minions. One would think that becoming privy to the thought and lives of so many others that this would cause reflection, some introspect and maybe even adjustments of belief but it did not and if not then ... certainly not now when you look at the gopher fodder available on such a level.

I like very much what you stated in summary ... a good Celestial Event like a pole reversal might set things right. The board is set for some "ultra violence" and Mad Confusion ... a good time to be astride a horse and mobile. Thank you for your Post.

Glen ... I than you again. It is agood thing the Amendments are numbered otherwise the NWO minions would not be able to keep track of them and how best to eradicate them. Congress is such a pathetic joke now. It is time to cleanse the House, the Congress and the "government". I am not speaking of a douche or shower ... I refer to total replacement ... with those who will be true to their Oaths of office and not Lie, cheat, steal and embezzle. The "Supreme Court" should be next with the abolishment of the Idi Amin LifeTime positions. What a hideous lot.

I can not imagine Talbot paranoid ... pissed absolutely but not paranoid. The Peg thing is best avoided then, now and in the future I feel.

John where do you live in Toronto ? What part ? You are welcome, by the way and thanks for the Post.

Talbot ... I think Glen was just rattling your cage. At any rate he does know how to illicit good responses ... we must all give him that.

Slacker ...Once again I thank you for your well worded and informative Post. I will definately check out your column archive ... excellent. I am very familiar with Lew Rockwell. It seems often we can in fact learn more from those who disagree with us as oppossed to those that do agree. The government should "process" this and stop killing, torturing and incarcerating those that disagree with them. I would not say this if the government was not so hypocritical, rich in Lies and Evil. In that case those that disagree might deserve to die ??? But "Land of the Free" ... please.

I am certain that I am guilty of repeating myself often enough. I have been called a "boor" on occasion ... especially during the "rutting season" which thanks to the warmth here is pretty much year round. I always enjoy your posts both here and elsewhere. Thank you very Much !

Glen ... thank you for your Post ... excellent condensing of your efforts ... touching upon many subjects. You are a good man as is Slacker, Talbot, Yod and many others here.

Things are rapidly changing now as the cockroaches ... exposed and skittering about , trying to greedily gain control of things they do not even understand or even comprehend ... wallow in their artificial technology commiting Evil.

The Last Moments ... The Last Days ... The Last Nights ... The Last ... have arrived. Those who deny will die both here and within the Spiritual ... Forever ... the stupid and unknowing. Those who know ... must now prepare ... getting their houses in order ... ceasing to warn and herald but rather deciding their own futures regardless of how short they may be here upon this plane. There is no sanctuary fom all this Evil here upon the physical ... this can only be found within ... in the Self ... in the Spirit. Ragnarok will be the Last Battle of this Great Dark Storm.

WE MUST LIVE WELL AND WE MUST DIE WELL

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