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....Slacker, I thank you for your Post ... as always your view and wisdom and opinion are heard and appreciated. Your quotes were numerous and are very ponderous if one is to address each properly with respect to the past, present and future. I take no issue with any of it as there are many prophetic writings of great diversity and timeline that all pretty much agree on the basic points made by each. Rather I think this should amply demonstrate that there is without any doubt "something" upon the horizon ... regardless of what any may believe.

I think that it is most important to define, identify and accept that this Evil is present and that it must be destroyed. It is equally important to understand how. I will attempt to open some conversation upon all this and we shall see if anything happens. IT IS OF SUPREME IMPORTANCE TO EACH AND EVERY INDIVIDUAL THAT THEY GET IN TUCH WITH THEMSELVES ...THEIR SELF. These are literally the last moments in which one may choose their own path and follow it. This window, this door, this opening ... is beginning to slam shut ... forever.

I advocate no religion. I merely urge each to "begin" their journey ... their Path. There is precious little time left for this ... literally moments. Very soon there will be little travel and much less Freedom on every level. The time for strategy draws to a close, hand in hand with these "Last Moments"

Satan ... Lucifer ... Devil Worship ... Diabolism aleays has been spasmodic and occasionally epidemic. Mankind has been plagued by this since his very "Creation". The conflict between EVIL and GOOD has always been a part of existence upon this physical plane.

Since Ormuzd and Ahrimon in Persia this Evil has worked it's "pure" Satanism from comparitively rare and isolated event to it's present all encompassing Evil.

From government, corporation, family and Spiritual Belief ... the Cultus of Lucifer has been the "opposition" of Adonai or Jehovah. Each look upon their diety with adoration and the other as an evil diety who has a fiendish ingenuity and who is miscreating the world of man to the detriment of humanity at best and the utter extinction of humanity at worst.

FreeMasonry is only a mask for Satanism with it's members ignorant of reality and indignantly denying it. It must be remembered that those who brought this present situation are Catholics. The Palladium (Sovereign Council of Wisdom) of 1737 is the same as the legendary Palladium of Templars ... better known as Baphomet. No religion is innocent in this present Evil. In 1801 Isaac Long, a Jew, carried the "original image" of Baphomet to Charlestown in the U.S. He was succeede in the "Lodge" he created by Albert Pike.

The "Ancient and Accepted Scotch Rite" was extended to "share" the Anti-Catholic Masonic "Chieftonship" with the Italian patriot Mazzini. This became the new "Reformed Palladium Rite" or "The Reformed Palladium.

Pike was assisted by Gallatin Mackey, Longfellow, Holbrook and a Swiss ... Phileas Walder ... erected this new rite into an occult fraternity with worldwide powers. They claimed from the beginning that the "Head Lodge" is in constant communication with Lucifer. This is done by the Arcula Mystica which works much like the Urim and the Thummim.

I reccomend the "Memoirs of an ex-Palladist" 1895... written by Miss Diana Vaughan ... former Grand Mistress of The Temple and Grand Inspectress of the Palladium. This is in my opinion an absurd romp similiar to Margiotta and Gabriel Pages. I believe that these were either the instruments of the Roman Catholic Church in it's attempts to brand Masonry as a vehicle of Satanism to distance itself or purposefully misleading in order that the rites of their churches could be carried on in an ultra secret manner.

I understand that this is all rather heavy but that is because it is of the utmost importance to understand. This is after all your life as well as mine. We each have a specific purpose, perhaps more than one even, which we are to learn and accomplish. If you do not achieve your purpose then that is only your choice and this with no excuses whatsoever.

Vamp,

I enjoyed reading this last post by you. So much information. (Not that I don't enjoy reading the many others, for I do. ) Very few in my town are even aware of this.:
George D. Perkins, pioneer publisher of Sioux City Journal, headed a committee to select a name for the Temple and they settled on Abu Bekr, disciple of the Prophet Mohammed.

Most think these people are simply a bunch of clowns (Circus) with secret oaths and the likes.


My perspective is absolutely Biblical and prophetic as I look to no other sources for spiritual guidance. The scripture in Isa 24:1 that I referenced is perhaps in other writings.

One translation refers to it as turning the earth upside down. Naturally, that depicts upending the governments of the nations, as is evident in the Arab world and others. Indeed, America is being turned upside down as many of us can testify to that fact. Some are given to see where others are blinded.

America went from the tyrannical oppressive rule of the English monarchy to a rule of the people highlighting the rights of the individual to live his life as he chooses, to be able to keep what he earns and to live without interference from a bloated tyrannical central government.

Now before our eyes we are being turned upside down and are headed back to the tyrannical government system that our ancestors fought to escape so many years ago. In this we also are being turned upside down. People are moving around the earth as never before, being scattered through both persecution and oppression.

I believe our time of freedom, free worship, free speech, of owning property, and the ability to assemble and all the rest of our freedoms are nearing a close. I see religious persecution beginning in America as it is in other Communist and atheistic countries. I see a time nearing when Christians will have to either deny their faith or lose their lives.

I only have this for advice to all. When you call on your god to save you, and if he does not answer, call on mine. I serve the God of Abraham Isac and Jacob who's son Jesus Christ paid my ransom. He will answer you as he is a living God. I am not out to proselytize, simply to express what I am seeing, so I hope not to offend anyone. But what the heck.... if I do I do.

The things of this world are falling apart as an avalanche racing downhill. You see it, I see it, and many others see it. I see it as an escalation of the spiritual warfare that has plagued man from the beginning of his reign on earth.

Making Choice ...

Slacker ... I thank you again for your Post. The selection of names is never a random affair ... it is the same with numerals. Not to be highly critical to some such as the Masons but they are indeed clowns ... tragic clowns ... many doing what they percieve upon the surface to be "good work" and unaware totally of the deeper and very real occult meanings and motivations of what they do, say and vitalize. I would decribe them more as a bunch of ignorant little boys in a "club". But those whom they serve either knowing or unknowing are pure Evil of the Highet degree ... literally. Therein lies the great tragedy.

Those of the "higher" degrees only take a form of sick and perverse pleasure in all this whilst "feeling superior" ... a big big stretch for justification and not very legitimate I am afraid.

Interesting that you quote "Isa" as that is the name that is used in reference to Jesus by the Islamics. They recognize that he in fac existed and was a Prophet and will return. They further believe that he will be the one who destroys the Dajal ... the AntiChrist.

Your descriptives of the world being turned upside down and populations scattered is very astute and apt. The Islamics also believe that there will be a great Battle of Good versus Evil...and the world will be turned upside down etc.

Some of their interpretations of this say that the earth will actually stop turning and reverse possibly during a pole shift and that the Sun will then rise in the West and set in the East...as it originally did so long ago.

They believe that Dajal is on the Earth now and that those who do not choose good over evil before this "turning of the world upside down" will become beyond redemption.

Your appraials and interpretations are excellent and I agree that the persecution of those believing in Christianity is just commencing. Few in the US know of or even understand the significance of having the churches etc. classified as corporations. I also share your belief that this madnes and loss of Freedoms has already begun.

A most excellent statement "Spiritual Warfare" ... for me that is really the only kind. What you relate is very true and really I believe that the only real warfare has only ever been spiritual. This is not often understood by those doing the fighting and dying and without a Code, but it is well understood by those who are not.

Yes it comes now ... but even so I feel there is no need to just through open the gates. One must make a choice...take a stand for what one believes ...defend your Path and Die well doing so if need be. Once it reaches this stage and even if the battle seems lost it is good enough for me to see how many of "them" and their minions I can make die.

Slacker... Very well posted many good thoughts. Many reasonable truths.

Sad... I have only begun to pick and choose my battles. However input from you and Vamp is very enlightening.

I'm am just amazed at all the people that believe stealing is OK. Our government has become so empowered with theft of personal property that they are not leaving enough for the people they are stealing from.


TOP DOWN... BOTTOM UP.

...Glen ... Ta for your Post.


Battles ...

"Know your enemy and know yourself and you can fight a hundred battles without disaster."

Sun Tzu


What is now cherished and admired are such as theft, lying, cheating, torturing and even killing innocents ... the opposite of any Code.

This will worsen ...

...Slacker ... your previous Post reminded me of a quote ... and I failed to insert it in my Post...

"For we are not fighting against people made of flesh and blood, but against the evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against those mighty powers of darkness who rule this world and against wicked spirits in the heavenly realms."

Ephesians 6:12



... Spiritual Warfare

...Slacker ... your previous Post reminded me of a quote ... and I failed to insert it in my Post...

"For we are not fighting against people made of flesh and blood, but against the evil rulers and authorities of the unseen world, against those mighty powers of darkness who rule this world and against wicked spirits in the heavenly realms."

Ephesians 6:12



... Spiritual Warfare

Very precise, Vamp.

Indeed this is a war against principalities and powers to be fought within the spiritual realm. Our battle is not with men but rather it is with the forces influencing them.

I can't believe people here would badmouth the Shriners with their Fez on.. as much good as they do in charity and all.. there is a lesson to be learned thru their good deeds.. shame on you

as Steely Dan would say, "you are never gonna do it without the Fez on"

...Dane I thank you for your Post.

THE ANCIENT ORDER OF THE NOBLES OF THE MYSTIC SHRINE

A.A.O.N.M.S. 1870

...an appendant body to Free Masonry furthering the politcalization of religion and aimed at total worldwide government and control over mankind.

Good Work ? They believe in "The One" or "Lucifer" or "The God of Light" and that he will arrive upon earth to rule and be worshipped as God ... Dictatorial Control ... Abolishment of Freedom ... Hell Upon Earth. Refusal to worship the "Beast" will result in death.

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation."

David Spangler
Director of Planetary Initiative
United Nations


The reason the Fez is worn is that in 800 AD %0,000 Catholics were slaughtered by Moslems in Fez, Morocco. It is said that the blood ran so thick and deep that the Moslems dipped their hats in it turning them red.The Fez is regarded as a 1200 year old symbol of the Moslems Victory over christians.

Shriners in ritual ..."seal their oath in the name of Allah, The God of our Fathers." And quote "Islam as the one True Faith."

In my opinion Masons are Spiritual Fools and Shriners are their Jesters (clowns).

Vamp, sorry you have such a low opinion of Masons, I am not a Mason, but have always been intrigued by them.. driving by their Temple in Orlando I always noted how the parking lot was full of the most high end vehicles all polished and pristine looking.. I know Morals and Dogma a book by Pike is a good seller, and that's what I do, so when I come across that book at auctions I will acquire them if the price is right, and while I am in possession of one (which in reality Masons are supposed to turn these books back in) I will read certain chapters, and for the most part, it seems the book explores different approaches if you will on how to "make a good man better" studying Chaldean religion or learning lessons from Egyptian hierophants in ancient times to me does not seem like the work of Satan at all, but rather opens your mind to the idea of tolerance and charity as being good works and helpful to mankind.. even Jesus said you give 10 fold and you receive back 1,000 fold is just an inexplicable law that works, and hard to understand why it does but it does.. I always thought Satan hated man because he is jealous of man, but I am very simple and can't comprehend many things even at 57

one last note, you can never forget many things a Mason might want you to believe about them is veiled in order for you to be led astray yourself, so the profane will always remain profane but the veil will be uncovered and the true lesson revealed to those whose hearts are really true..God will bless those cause God really can read the hearts of men.. the ancient Egyptian priesthood used similar tactics, when their way of life was being over run.. you trick those that deserve to be tricked by passing down faux principles to keep the truth safeguarded..

.....Dane, I hank you again for your Post and points. Let me say I have never nor do I really think you to be simple. I always enjoy your Posts here and on others threads. You do at times display a knack for goading people and making them angry but who am I to criticize in this regard ?

Thank you for explaining your interest resulting in part from selling books etc. I can take no issue with your interest in the Masons as it is completely understandable.

The "high end" vehicles are quite in keeping with their set of "values" ... materialism and power plays a major role in what they deem as being successful in this life.

As I have stated before ... I feel they are much like a bunch of little boys who play dress up in their little secret club. If polished and pristine high end vehicles are your thing along with dressing up in silken robes like the gay and pedophilic priesthoods of both ancient and modern times ... pretending to be something you are not and pretending to be knowing something you do not along with a facade of spirituality that in reality can only be equated with Evil ... ten Freemasonry is for you.

They are very fond of manipulating the ignorant ... the gullible and the materialistic ... hence their success in establishing their "Temples" on such a widespread basis in the U.S. After all where can one find so many in one place with brass in pocket and falling into one or more of the 3 catagories I have mentioned. Compared to other countries the USA is cultureless, clueless and uncivilized spiritually.

"How to make a good man better" kind of says it all actually. Almost any perspective from any religion can be applied regarding this statement and that is precisely what they do. They openly accept any religious belief from anywhere as they are "nonsecular" and a "Civil Religion" I guess you could say. Masons corrupt any religion they touch with their "Great Architect of the Universe" philosophy and their ridiculous little boy club titles and degrees. Did you know that George Bush was sworn in on a "Masonic Bible ? So was George Washington.

I also have several "Masonic" books in my library.I suggest you read the entire book and combine this with some personal research into the subject. Your perspective is at present one of curiousity and that is perfectly acceptable. This perspective I wager will alter or perhaps change once you learn more and examine their history and actions. Jesus also said "...beware of the Leaven of the Pharissees and of the Sadducees." to his Disciples.

The Jester is but a Trickster..."Tricking those that deserve to be tricked"?? Who are you or I or a bunch of ritualized spiritually immature clownboys to determine this ? Trickery quite often involves lying and always involves deception and never Truth. Any who has a Code, morality and sense of decency would not engage in such nor would they glorify it. The Egyptian Priesthood were no different than the inbred, insane with power, morally devoid, Honourless, lying scum that masquerade as "Royalty" in the UK, Rome and the rest of the world.

The Masons are far over rated by those who are ignorant of their facade of mystery and spirituality. "...many things a Mason might want you to believe about them" ? Ha ! My thoughts are not their thoughts and my beliefs are not their beliefs nor will they ever be. They can have no perception of my thoughts and such of these things as they are absolutely devoid of even the smallest capacity of doing so. This I speak of those who sit upon the uppermost levels of the pyramid of defecation that so many ignorant and yet greedy souls build century after century. All this "knowledge" and "secrecy" yet their plan has not ever been "secret" ... not for thousands of years. Their veil is utterly transperant in its composition of valuelessness and nothingness ... spiritually nonexistent.

Masons are the Great Pretenders ... they smirk at others they deem inferior and whom they seek to manipulate and enslave when in reality they are the slaves and their every dictated move has been foretold for centuries.

It is important that you delve deeper into all this and formulate your own opinions while disregarding mine and others. You must understand these little boys and their secret club that has been known about worldwide since it's conconception. They have only achieved what little they have upon this plane because most do not care or wish to care about their trifles.

But all this is about to change ... as has been foretold by many and varied sources each of whichis vastly more legitimate and human than themslves and their dogma. The only very real danger they present is that in their "worship" they now threaten the existence of physical life upon this planet due to their thirst for money and power and the rampant stupidity it brings ... they are sawing the limb off the tree of life that we and also they are sitting upon. This to me is imbecilic and in no way, shape or form is it "good work".

The Ancient Hebrews were Masters of the profane and many , many things such as Gematria and much which is now forgotten and lost. These included multi-level multi-meaning and multi-interpretation and composition. Look into P'shat, Remez, D'rash and Sud ... it is well worth it.

But find out for yourself because until you acquaint yourself more fully, any argument or discussion would be pointless and lacking ... I feel. It matters not if we agree or disagree on this ... what is important is that you make your own way.

...Covert Censorship is now being instituted and will very soon be here on BM. It will have nothing to do with the excellent policy of BM but will be passed down from above ... Mount WDC where the Black Messiah lurks. So if you Home School or speak critically of government, politician, policy or person of race well .....

My question is this ... how will all of you who are so very busy debating , discussing and giving your opinions about the mythical political partys, policies and politicians ... attempt to justfy the loss of this Freedom ???

Those who have not now reawakened are dreaming and your dream is about to become your waking nightmare. Secure in your insecurity. Ignorant in your ego. Your "dream" is dying before your blind eyes. You have been dumbed down and conditioned and slated for harvest. Line up in single file for the FEMA showers to get "cleansed".

You Stupid ___king cretans

...Covert Censorship is now being instituted and will very soon be here on BM. It will have nothing to do with the excellent policy of BM but will be passed down from above ... Mount WDC where the Black Messiah lurks. So if you Home School or speak critically of government, politician, policy or person of race well .....

My question is this ... how will all of you who are so very busy debating , discussing and giving your opinions about the mythical political partys, policies and politicians ... attempt to justfy the loss of this Freedom ???

Those who have not now reawakened are dreaming and your dream is about to become your waking nightmare. Secure in your insecurity. Ignorant in your ego. Your "dream" is dying before your blind eyes. You have been dumbed down and conditioned and slated for harvest. Line up in single file for the FEMA showers to get "cleansed".

You Stupid ___king cretans

Great sentiments, poetry in truth.

We who disprove shall also disappear silently in the night as have so many before us under other dictators. We can speak boldly now but soon silence is coming to conceal truth. Many are not stupid, but rather deceived for that is the manner that evil always acquires ultimate power. It has been given to some to believe the lies, for lies have been put in the mouths of all their prophets.

Lying Spirits


1Ki 22:19 And he said, Give ear now to the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord seated on his seat of power, with all the army of heaven in their places round him at his right hand and at his left. And the Lord said, How may Ahab be tricked into going up to Ramoth-gilead to his death? And one said one thing and one another. Then a spirit came forward and took his place before the Lord and said, I will get him to do it by a trick. And the Lord said, How? And he said, I will go out and be a spirit of deceit in the mouth of all his prophets. And he said, Your trick will have its effect on him: go out and do so. And now, see, the Lord has put a spirit of deceit in the mouth of all these your prophets; and the Lord has said evil against you.


Rev 16:13 And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits, like frogs. For they are evil spirits, working signs; who go out even to the kings of all the earth, to get them together to the war of the great day of God, the Ruler of all.