General Chat (Non-Music-Related)

All the rest of you... just hand over your lives.

Someone needs to tell that cartoon maker that BC stands for Before Christ. Jesus didn't create the universe, he was born into it. Man will never know the unknowable.

Wrong.

Time is past present and future to God since time does not exist in eternity. God lives in eternity. It is written concerning Christ. All things were created through him and for him. Again, those whose names were written in the book written in the book before creation. Of Christ it is written He was with God from the beginning:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus,
Phi 2:6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,
Phi 2:7 but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.

.... the Evil Ones ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHpZXrEcf58

Maybe .... it is an interesting attempt to tie it all together in a neat package. Although I agree with many of the elements dealt with by that video, my agnostic scepticism finds some of that to be skating on some very thin ice. For instance, I can find very convincing evidence concerning schemes involving the central banking system, proxy leaders, psyops, and all that, to control and dominate the globe ... but reptilians, greys, and nordic aliens, I must keep in the same category with Yahweh, fairies, elves, VinnyViolin , and other beings, whose existence, neither I, nor any credible source that I trust, has actually verified.

These are interesting also in a related way ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPAYbbGLYlE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SaHH_pA7PU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-wsBFSsCbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THlaMUq6MKU

Stephan Hawking would agree with you... He will die even less of a man than when he came in...

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cR7Q02PFJZU

Vinny, Why do you resort to that, which you dont beleive in yourself, as the basis of your many subtle (passive -aggressive) Arguments?

Oh ... that's called Irony, Paperdog.

Descriptions or depictions of situational irony, whether in fiction or in non-fiction, serve the communicative function of sharpening or highlighting certain discordant features of reality.

Its Bull sh*t Vinny... Sorry You just cant be trusted... Go back to your lonely, tortured soul of a life, where nobody 'understands' you. You can OD on all the self generated exhaust you can muster up there.

Trusted to do what?

Stephan Hawking would agree with you... He will die even less of a man than when he came in...

1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time;
wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light
what is hidden in darkness and will expose the
motives of the heart. At that time each will receive
their praise from God.


................... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXaYp7nwWXM
................... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrrmllORpqw

I should cut Vinny more slack... BM is probably the extent of his reach in the name of self-purpose. Rock on Vinny, Nikes and all. Glad I aint you

Someone needs to tell that cartoon maker that BC stands for Before Christ. Jesus didn't create the universe, he was born into it. Man will never know the unknowable.

Wrong.

Time is past present and future to God since time does not exist in eternity. God lives in eternity. It is written concerning Christ. All things were created through him and for him. Again, those whose names were written in the book written in the book before creation. Of Christ it is written He was with God from the beginning:

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men.
Joh 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus,
Phi 2:6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,
Phi 2:7 but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.

Slaker, where is the part that evil can take many forms? I don't remember, and I just need a little help.
Thanks.

Let me see... We had an ambassador and 3 other Americans killed in a country we just helped overthrow. We have the IRS auditing right wing affiliated people severely. We have the AP having records seized, of personal E MAIL and phone conversations. We actually have a FOX NEWS reporter charged with seeking confidential classified documents. (not stealing them).


Seems like we have a major breach of constitutional rights all over the place.

This freedom shiit... highly overrated.

SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID!!!

Sorry Vamp,,,Only so long... before I have to tell the truth...

HOG SHITT, STINKS!

OH... The WORLDS MOST POWERFUL LEADER.................


Doesn't know anything about any of this.

thats all folks.

Vinny ... thanks for your Post and excellent links. The first on Project Blue Beam certainly dmonstrates clearly that the "capability" does in fact exist. The second rearding the Vatican and it's minions and in a "class" all by themselves ... the Jesuits ... certainly shows "intention". The third one due to it's age and scope even then shows "threat" as well as intention. Werner Von Braun as many before and since obviously motivated by Spiritual and Humanistic qualities coupled with fear and guilt being near the end of one's life on this plane, demonstrates the absolute continuity of government in the U.S. over many "administrations" and the Evil that pervades the political filth that masquerades and has done so for quite some time.

The 4th I found very informative and even those who may still beat the propoganda and patriotic drums loudly and out of time with one another should give pause afte seeing it and thought regarding who Gaddafi really was and what possibly really happened in Libya at the "beheist" of the UN/NATO?NWO. A simple contrast of stats between the US and Libya makes those in the US who spoke loudly about the wondrful job done there ... well hypocrites of the worst order. I am going to check out the Green Book.

I urge everyone to actually watch these all the way through as they are most thought provoking regardless of what one may believe and they are worth the time and relevant to Syria and the "domestic" atrocities being committed in the USA at this very moment. Well done Vinny and I thank you.

PaperDog ... even if one does not believe that even a fraction of it all might possibly be true it is thought provoking and relevant I feel. We both know that Vinny can be most aggravating at times and we both know that this is often purposeful ...perhaps to prove a point ??? Perhaps not ... but either way .....

Jimmy Danger I thank you for your Post. You are conssistant in your belief and though I may not agree always, I respect you. What you related in your Posts regarding the cop shooting the girl was very good and well put.

PaperDog ... excellent insult but you know you ony encourage him. Which might not always be a bad thing ??? Thanks for your Post.

Vinny ... interesting Post and PaperDog ... see what I mean ? Richard Dadd was a great Fairie Painter even if he did murder his own Mother.

Glen ... Thank you for your Posts. Things continue to move faster and faster now. The "arrests" have already begun and soon will spread to those less well known ... faceless fodder. The heel of the boot is coming down by cretans who can not even march nor read nor discern Truth or even think. They only quicken their own Fall into the Abyss one way or the other. Either way it will be by their very own hand. Now there is some irony.

There possibly remains a very slim chance of triumphing on a strategic level without everything going quickly to Hell and becoming tactical. But it requires a coming together of the "common man". This has always been considered an impossibility and due primarily to mankind's animalistic state over the centuries passing. It is really an Individual and Personal thing rather than a political/national ideology or system. None of these. including religion has ever worked ... at least not on the level now required in this case.

BUT... if man is to really leave his animal state behind and enter the next Age on a "higher " level or state, then NOW is the time for this to actually happen. The need is there ... the capability is there ... if enough ReAwaken and effectively influence others and galvanize them ... it could happen.

Leaders are needed but not "big" and "unreal" ones but small, real and common ones ... male, female, young or old. The internet is still upso it should be used and utilized and meetings like the townspeople of 1772 to 76 did. Community by community ... town council by town council and up the ladder step by step taking back what has been stolen... osting and replacing traitors to the Constitution and claiming new leadership and positive action. All this should have been commenced long ago but the awareness was simply not there which now exists.

This NWO means to force a civil war within the US and will push and push until it happens. Each time no resistence is encountered then they push more the next ... like a simple schoolyard bullie. It must start locally with streets, neighbourhoods, communities etc all reclaiming their Freedom and Constituton.

Humanity must stir lest it become wholly enslaved and then extinct. This is truly the last moment for such strategic action and after it passes then it will at some point go tactical and as Talbot states "those with the guns".

Illegitimate laws and actions that claim to replace legitimate ones have no validity whatsoever. The blueprint and courses of actions are clear and accounted for in the Constitution ... which needs to be reclaimed.

By now the violations of the political filth pretending leadership the world over are clear and ever growing. These criminals need to be dealt with . There needs to be arrests, trials and nullifications of their positions enacted. This is the responsibility of the people and they must use it before they surrender their power, their guns, their moral, legal and spiritual "rightness". The Age is ending but the world need not die.

There is precious little time left and the abuses must be curtailed and stopped... once the purse strings are severed the puppets strings will fall away and the puppets themselves will come down with a small thud clearing the board. It is not a task so much of restoration as it is an opportunity to create. Whilst this transpires somehow the cleaning up and damage repair that the Great Dark Storm has wrought must also be dealt with. Not an easy task but entirely possible if real leaders are chosen and not elected. The people must chose ... no electronics ...no machines ... no doubts and no manipulations.

Prime conditions of leadership must be Truth and the fullfilment of any promise made. Lying will result in instant dismissal and punushment of a public nature. A dream perhaps but better than the coming Nightmare.

....Lies, lies lies .

Slacker ... I thank you for your Post. I agree that Past ... Present and Future are all one of the same ... coexisting as it were.

Although I am not a Christian I find myself more and more being forced into the same camp by the Tyranny and Terror which is becoming increasingly directed towards Christians and religions in general.

The Constitution is clear on all of this and the demonizing of True Christians ( not the hypocrites) has gone too far in relation to all of this. I may not believe the same as they but have no problem accepting them or standing beside them facing Evil.

PaperDog you are dueling now with the same weapons now I see. Interesting links ... thank you. It is rumoured among some that Buddhism is now nearing it's end and that the current Dali Lama is in fact "the last Dali Lama who is not really a Dali Lama". I find myself tending more and more to believe this.

Glen ... no need to apologize. Nice to see you back and thanks for the Posts. Excellent point on exactly how ridiculous the entire affair has now become and how STUPID (not ignorant) so many have become.

....Lies, lies lies .

Slacker ... I thank you for your Post. I agree that Past ... Present and Future are all one of the same ... coexisting as it were.

Although I am not a Christian I find myself more and more being forced into the same camp by the Tyranny and Terror which is becoming increasingly directed towards Christians and religions in general.

The Constitution is clear on all of this and the demonizing of True Christians ( not the hypocrites) has gone too far in relation to all of this. I may not believe the same as they but have no problem accepting them or standing beside them facing Evil.

PaperDog you are dueling now with the same weapons now I see. Interesting links ... thank you. It is rumoured among some that Buddhism is now nearing it's end and that the current Dali Lama is in fact "the last Dali Lama who is not really a Dali Lama". I find myself tending more and more to believe this.

Glen ... no need to apologize. Nice to see you back and thanks for the Posts. Excellent point on exactly how ridiculous the entire affair has now become and how STUPID (not ignorant) so many have become.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU9FKVd-rv0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqd-iiAtUS8

Dali Lama might have parted ways with the Company sometime ago. The CIA's "Free Tibet Now!" movement runs against his stated goal of attaining Tibetan autonomy within China, rather than a "free" state dependent on western powers known to exploit their dependents in a bad way.

The DL has suggested several possibilities regarding his successor, maybe influenced by the fate of the abducted Panchen Lama. He might identify a successor while still alive and it might be a woman. Or maybe none.

"The whole secret of existence is to have no fear. Never fear what will become of you, depend on no one. Only the moment you reject all help are you freed"

Even though the Dali Lama is the head of Tibetan Buddhism and the most famous Buddhist figure in the west, Tibetan Buddhism is but one of many variations of Buddhism. His ceasing to incarnate would not bring an end to any other Buddhist sects. I really doubt that it would be the end of the Tibetan/Bon Po traditions either.

Vinny... I must just be one big stupid mutha f---cker.
Thanks for the post, but I am missing the relevance of it.
Maybe you should take Jay Carney's job. You are good at twisting things.

Now what the hell does a bald fat man, wearing a diaper, have to do with CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS.

Nice try Vinny.

Vinny... I must just be one big stupid mutha f---cker.
Thanks for the post, but I am missing the relevance of it.
Maybe you should take Jay Carney's job. You are good at twisting things.

Now what the hell does a bald fat man, wearing a diaper, have to do with CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS.

Nice try Vinny.

For one thing, many CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATIONS happen to be perpetrated by bald fat men in diapers.


But more specifically in this case ...

It is rumoured among some that Buddhism is now nearing it's end and that the current Dali Lama is in fact "the last Dali Lama who is not really a Dali Lama". I find myself tending more and more to believe this.

The "real" Dali Lama is supposed to be an incarnation of Chenrezig aka Avalokiteśvara.
Since we cannot verify the reality of Avalokiteśvara, or re-incarnation for that matter, how would we debate whether the Dali Lama is the "real" Dali Lama? The concept of a Dali Lama is not a Buddhist tradition, but a Tibetan one. It is not really essential to Buddhism at all and might well be considered obsolete in it's present politicized form. I see it as mainly a problem for the believers in the Tibetan ethnic religious aspect of Buddhism.

This may also explain a lot:
State Religious Affairs Bureau Order No. 5
On August 3, 2007, China's State Administration for Religious Affairs issued a decree that all the reincarnations of tulkus of Tibetan Buddhism must get government approval, otherwise they are "illegal or invalid". The decree states, "It is an important move to institutionalize management on reincarnation of living Buddhas. The selection of reincarnates must preserve national unity and solidarity of all ethnic groups and the selection process cannot be influenced by any group or individual from outside the country." It also requires that temples which apply for reincarnation of a living Buddha must be "legally-registered venues for Tibetan Buddhism activities and are capable of fostering and offering proper means of support for the living Buddha."

Reincarnation Applications have to be submitted to four governmental bodies for approval, specifically the religious affairs department of the provincial-level government, the provincial-level government, State Administration for Religious Affairs, and the State Council


The video links give a rare insight into how the CIA courts a resistance group and uses them for it's objectives, while exploiting the rebel fighter's desire for freedom and self determination, knowing well that such freedom will not be attained.

It is a rare case because you have this group of ex-agents talking about what is considered a "successful" operation by the CIA (just not so for the Tibetans). It will be a long time, if ever, before we will hear the behind the scenes insights of recent similar operations in Egypt, Libya, Mali, Syria, ... to name only the most recent few.

All of this only proves that men have neither the ability or the wisdom to rule themselves.

so what ever happenned to that gathering over at the US/Mexico border eh?

Did the spaceships show up?

cheers!

John

so what ever happenned to that gathering over at the US/Mexico border eh?

Did the spaceships show up?

cheers!

John

Naw, all the parts they used to build those space ships were back-ordered somewhere in Toronto. When the package finaly did arrive , we had already outgrown your horse carriages ...


Cheers!

hahahahaha