General Chat (Non-Music-Related)

Vinny... You are funny guy. Maybe a year ago you may have been able to motivate me with "anger".

Similar people such as Vamp and Planetguy have shown me the folly of that stupid behavior.

There was actually a reason why they have interacted on this site.
I am actually grateful for their presence. I have seen a few really good musicians come and go from here. The funny thing is that in their own ways they have helped to keep my thoughts open to different music and even political inspiration.
Thanks Mark, Stephan, Yod, Jeff, and every one else...

Thank you too Vinny. I wish you would post some music. Whatever...

Vinny... You are funny guy. Maybe a year ago you may have been able to motivate me with "anger".

Similar people such as Vamp and Planetguy have shown me the folly of that stupid behavior.

There was actually a reason why they have interacted on this site.
I am actually grateful for their presence. I have seen a few really good musicians come and go from here. The funny thing is that in their own ways they have helped to keep my thoughts open to different music and even political inspiration.
Thanks Mark, Stephan, Yod, Jeff, and every one else...

Thank you too Vinny. I wish you would post some music. Whatever...

I have noticed, and commend you for, how you have mellowed over the past months ... and all this time I had thought it was just due to your wife slipping some ground up Prozacs into your pancakes every morning!

I'm negotiating with a small indy label to release a 12" LP this fall .. if that bears fruit, I'll send you a link where you can buy the record ... then if you do not like my music, you can at least feel angry for having wasted your money on it.

Regardless of your interesting links, NO SAMPLE = Not going to buy it.

No fair making us buy it to hear it..may as well be blank.

Regardless of your interesting links, NO SAMPLE = Not going to buy it.

No fair making us buy it to hear it..may as well be blank.

Sorry Scott, I only made that offer to GLENNY, because I know how much he appreciates FREE STUFF.

If you want the link, you will need to pay a small processing fee of $10 for a link to the site where you will have the opportunity to order the record for whatever price they will be selling it for.

lol whew it's ugly in here..

lol whew it's ugly in here..

... meet the man who wrote my business plan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsEhXE5IUCQ

Vinny... You are funny guy. Maybe a year ago you may have been able to motivate me with "anger".

Similar people such as Vamp and Planetguy have shown me the folly of that stupid behavior.

There was actually a reason why they have interacted on this site.
I am actually grateful for their presence. I have seen a few really good musicians come and go from here. The funny thing is that in their own ways they have helped to keep my thoughts open to different music and even political inspiration.
Thanks Mark, Stephan, Yod, Jeff, and every one else...

Thank you too Vinny. I wish you would post some music. Whatever...

I have noticed, and commend you for, how you have mellowed over the past months ... and all this time I had thought it was just due to your wife slipping some ground up Prozacs into your pancakes every morning!

I'm negotiating with a small indy label to release a 12" LP this fall .. if that bears fruit, I'll send you a link where you can buy the record ... then if you do not like my music, you can at least feel angry for having wasted your money on it.

Vinny... I gave up taking an interest in your 'work'. It's ok that you don't post any work, while at the same time , the rest of us have afforded you the luxury and privilege to hear ours. (Note: Opinions of the work are not relevant, here). Its obvious that you feel uneasy to let your 'precious babies' loose. I seriously doubt your 12" project will get much mileage... You are simply too anal and frightened to show that vulnerability. I do not say it to be mean. I just call it the way I see it. IN any case, good luck , just the same.

Vinny... You are funny guy. Maybe a year ago you may have been able to motivate me with "anger".

Similar people such as Vamp and Planetguy have shown me the folly of that stupid behavior.

There was actually a reason why they have interacted on this site.
I am actually grateful for their presence. I have seen a few really good musicians come and go from here. The funny thing is that in their own ways they have helped to keep my thoughts open to different music and even political inspiration.
Thanks Mark, Stephan, Yod, Jeff, and every one else...

Thank you too Vinny. I wish you would post some music. Whatever...

I have noticed, and commend you for, how you have mellowed over the past months ... and all this time I had thought it was just due to your wife slipping some ground up Prozacs into your pancakes every morning!

I'm negotiating with a small indy label to release a 12" LP this fall .. if that bears fruit, I'll send you a link where you can buy the record ... then if you do not like my music, you can at least feel angry for having wasted your money on it.

Vinny... I gave up taking an interest in your 'work'. It's ok that you don't post any work, while at the same time , the rest of us have afforded you the luxury and privilege to hear ours. (Note: Opinions of the work are not relevant, here). Its obvious that you feel uneasy to let your 'precious babies' loose. I seriously doubt your 12" project will get much mileage... You are simply too anal and frightened to show that vulnerability. I do not say it to be mean. I just call it the way I see it. IN any case, good luck , just the same.

Thank you Paperdog! I can honestly say that I never even gave one thought to what your interests might be when I was creating the music for the record.

Making the music was my part of the project, distribution and sales is the label's part. I will of course aid their efforts in any way I can that I feel will be effective. So I would no more promote my music here, than I would on a metal or hiphop forum, if I was seeking genuine interest and effective response. I wish you some good luck too.


I did post some "work" here, created especially at your request and with lyrics taken from GLENNY'S anti Vinny mantra postings ... (it is all in the past thread archives.) You may forget or discount that because in your opinion the track in question did not even rank as "music". But since "Opinions of the work are not relevant, here" you will now have to acknowledge that I have posted "music" here. And granted that the album's music bears no resemblance to that track in either content or quality, again, "Opinions of the work are not relevant, here" and thus neither the content ..

...Glen ... I apologize for the delay ... I and my Wife have been dealing with a friend who is in the process of dying. I thank you for coming to my defence ... as usual. I did check out the lyrics to the songs on Vinny's Posts when I saw them shortly after they were up and found them to be relevant to the subject matter although Vinny , as is his fashion ... cryptically noninformative and possibly construed as antagonistic ... not overly clear on what or how he feels initially ... well, unique and very effective at times ... that is Vinny. I believe he finds it very satisfying to see if "without committing to anything" he can raise someone's dander. But I have come to enjoy his Posts and the reactions to them. You are correct Glen "once in a while he does in fact contribute something of value " or initiate it.

At any rate Vinny is most definately a "character" but one of dubious motivation I personally feel. But such is the nature of this Forum in that we all must be accepting even in this case ... after all we all are a bit odd in some ways are we not ?

Vinny I thank you for Posting the lyrics to one of the songs as that has saved you from being as ill thought of as you might otherwise have been. And yes many of us on here do "suffer" from "Oppositional Defiant Disorder". Your frenzy of Posts referring Y-Tube Songs was very good and I found them appropriate and in an odd way very informative....Thank You.

"LIBERTY FOR SOME AND INJUSTACE FOR ALL"

....very good Slaker. I thank you for your complimentary Posts. You clearly stated the general jist or should I say "jest" of the Benghazi Debacle. We all have been born into slavery. Most just do not know it, neither do they have anything to compare it to . This slavery has somehow been able to remain invisible to most even now ? Some even take great pride in their slavery which seems strangely akin to taking pride in one's abject stupidity and ignorance. Quite puzzling in some aspects and in others not.

Scotty I thank you for your Post. There are several sites that state several good reasons for not paying the taxes. Check them out ... some of the resons are very accurate and agreeable to a great many. Personally I do not think badly of anyone who has been in jail. Makes you more real to me.

Glen ... Vinny is a "pot stirrer" ... you are correct. We must not expect more from him than what he is ... certainly not any music ... only Y-Tube references ... some of which ae quite good and appropriate I feel. Scott says it well "Does anger not equal passion in this context ?" Absolutely Yes. Well stated Scotty.

Glen has stated some very nice things about us all from time to time and I feel he deserves more consideration from some than he recieves but things are most definately improving all around. Glen is an exceptional Individual in that he is not afraid to admit certain things and even thank those who may have influenced him in such. I do not think that you can upset him in the manner you have previously done any longer Vinny.

The 12" LP is nothing more than pure unadulterated hype in my opinion. A device to stir up things a bit further and that is all. A humourous little aggravation to "illicit" reaction. Once again Scotty says it well regarding "buying the music". As long as Vinny remains unconcerned about his own credibility how can he possibly have any here on this Site ?

I will be Posting more by the end of this weekend \. Tomorrow I must ring my Mother . Others should do the same ... not mine but theirs. This past friday was the Mexican Mother's Day.

Vinny... You are funny guy. Maybe a year ago you may have been able to motivate me with "anger".

Similar people such as Vamp and Planetguy have shown me the folly of that stupid behavior.

There was actually a reason why they have interacted on this site.
I am actually grateful for their presence. I have seen a few really good musicians come and go from here. The funny thing is that in their own ways they have helped to keep my thoughts open to different music and even political inspiration.
Thanks Mark, Stephan, Yod, Jeff, and every one else...

Thank you too Vinny. I wish you would post some music. Whatever...

I have noticed, and commend you for, how you have mellowed over the past months ... and all this time I had thought it was just due to your wife slipping some ground up Prozacs into your pancakes every morning!

I'm negotiating with a small indy label to release a 12" LP this fall .. if that bears fruit, I'll send you a link where you can buy the record ... then if you do not like my music, you can at least feel angry for having wasted your money on it.

Vinny... I gave up taking an interest in your 'work'. It's ok that you don't post any work, while at the same time , the rest of us have afforded you the luxury and privilege to hear ours. (Note: Opinions of the work are not relevant, here). Its obvious that you feel uneasy to let your 'precious babies' loose. I seriously doubt your 12" project will get much mileage... You are simply too anal and frightened to show that vulnerability. I do not say it to be mean. I just call it the way I see it. IN any case, good luck , just the same.

Thank you Paperdog! I can honestly say that I never even gave one thought to what your interests might be when I was creating the music for the record.

Making the music was my part of the project, distribution and sales is the label's part. I will of course aid their efforts in any way I can that I feel will be effective. So I would no more promote my music here, than I would on a metal or hiphop forum, if I was seeking genuine interest and effective response. I wish you some good luck too.


I did post some "work" here, created especially at your request and with lyrics taken from GLENNY'S anti Vinny mantra postings ... (it is all in the past thread archives.) You may forget or discount that because in your opinion the track in question did not even rank as "music". But since "Opinions of the work are not relevant, here" you will now have to acknowledge that I have posted "music" here. And granted that the album's music bears no resemblance to that track in either content or quality, again, "Opinions of the work are not relevant, here" and thus neither the content ..

Now you sound like a cry-baby, Vinny. Are you whining because of the abject response you received a year ago, when you tried to lay a gerbil track on us...? You disrespectfully laid a turd on us and we spoke up about it. Indie Label? Well I must admit, its more than I got going for my 'work' . I just wonder if they've actually 'heard' any of your work.

Oh relax, I got more music I am not "turning out" on this site as well.

It's not that big a deal, I was the same way for many moons.
And then when I started working with the other guy, I figured I'd break the ice a little and see if by posting some music, I could get a few others to post as well. And people did, but it didn't work out the way I thought it would to be honest.

I think it's great to have some samples, but do you have to?
Well no I don't think anyone has to it just conveys some validity, albeit in some cases very much less validity than one would think.

Vinny no one really cares. Yeah we'd all listen to it, but we got bigger and weirder people hanging out in the shadows around here and it's not going to make you public enemy #1.

I wouldn't stress it at all.

Oh relax, I got more music I am not "turning out" on this site as well.

It's not that big a deal, I was the same way for many moons.
And then when I started working with the other guy, I figured I'd break the ice a little and see if by posting some music, I could get a few others to post as well. And people did, but it didn't work out the way I thought it would to be honest.

I think it's great to have some samples, but do you have to?
Well no I don't think anyone has to it just conveys some validity, albeit in some cases very much less validity than one would think.

Vinny no one really cares. Yeah we'd all listen to it, but we got bigger and weirder people hanging out in the shadows around here and it's not going to make you public enemy #1.

I wouldn't stress it at all.

I don't stress Scotty...I just call it like I see it. Frankly I don't want to hear 'all' of anybody's music either. Personally I don't give a sh*t... But Were all living in the 'gold-rush' here. (How are those indie-label shovels working out?) What I detest is when somebody has the arrogance to suggest they are 'gracing' us with the presence of their music by virtual of sales, while at the same time, denigrating those who have an opinion about music (that's been offered and shared amidst BM friends) If anybody here is full of "huff and Puff' (as you put it at the very beginning of this thread) , in my book its Vinny.

Grant, I am not downing you for saying what you think..

And for every person there is here that has some music, there are 10 or more that have nothing.

Do they deserve less? lol Well I kind of want to hammer them, but I remember JW giving me sh*t at one point because I didn't have anything posted and it was a denigrating feeling.

Was I any less because I didn't post anything? maybe yes and maybe no.

Should one post a little sample music, I'd say yes but I am not an authority when it comes to this type of thing. It's pretty subjective and if anyone lost anything because of what I said about it, I'd feel horrible about it.

Is it possible to be a decent musician and not have anything posted?
Sure it is, but the locals will be searching for it every time you say anything the world doesn't agree with.

I am starting to think it's a daily witch hunt.

Who is the witch today? We burning them at the stake afterwards?
(lemme get my popcorn and hotdogs)

And no, the witch is not me, at least not today.. lol

PS: Indie labels are not a big deal. I'm glad it's working out for someone at least..

I just call it like I see it.

I can see where that might be a problem ..

"It's ok that you don't post any work, while at the same time , the rest of us have afforded you the luxury and privilege to hear ours. (Note: Opinions of the work are not relevant, here)."

Ok, so I remind you that I did post some "music" here, and you did not like it ....

Are you whining because of the abject response you received a year ago, when you tried to lay a gerbil track on us...?"

the rest of us have afforded you the luxury and privilege to hear ours. (Note: Opinions of the work are not relevant, here).

No, I was reminding you that I did post a track .. are you suggesting a double standard? You have only your expressed OPINION to disqualify my track. Or else show me the credentials (besides your raging arrogance) you propose to present to prove your absolute authority to decide what is, and what is not music.
Remember

(Note: Opinions of the work are not relevant, here).

What I detest is when somebody has the arrogance to suggest they are 'gracing' us with the presence of their music by virtual of sales, while at the same time, denigrating those who have an opinion about music (that's been offered and shared amidst BM friends) .

My music is not present (remember? that's what you all in a huff about!), nor has it the virtue of sales, nor have you been graced ... . Who is it that has been denigrated for having an opinion about music?

(Note: Opinions of the work are not relevant, here).

I have been an outsider all of my life. Especially so, having grown up along the Asperger's shade of the autistic spectrum. I go my own way because I learned early on that your way is not a viable option for me. I have always been chided, excluded, ridiculed, suspected and bullied by others who wish to force my conformity to their view. A few hundred years ago I could probably have been burned or drowned as a witch ... so maybe things have improved ever so slightly over the years It is possible, probably unavoidable, that this has had an influence on the way that my music sounds, and how I choose to present it, or not.

Vin, the only thing I will say is I notice you going to listen to my music.

How fair is that? You listen to mine and I can't even get the barest glimpse of your page?

ssdd. LOL