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#251022 by J-HALEY
Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:51 pm
RUI Musik wrote:No I stoopid!

Of course, next to you I look like Einstein. :D

In your mind you look that way STUPID! :lol:
#251027 by J-HALEY
Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:13 pm
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#251046 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Fri Dec 04, 2015 2:05 pm
jookeyman wrote:As I was walking out the door to go to work yesterday I caught Obama on TV giving a press conference before all the evidence was taken!! He immediately called this an act of 'workplace violence'. This is before ALL the evidence was submitted by the FBI!




Proving that everything he ever says is for propaganda purposes only. His political power is the ONLY thing he considers when making monumentous decisions about the rest of us in America.
#251065 by GuitarMikeB
Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:23 pm
Well of course he was planning something - he had almost 2000 rounds of ammo, pipe bombs already made up with a remote control (that didn't work) and had rented an out-of-state SUV to use.
#251069 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:30 am
Jookey, you sorta changed the direction of this discussion. Oil prices...
I have to address this because it is just more speculation on the economy. It is very simple. First all the major oil production that has come on the market is from innovative corps and individuals that suddenly found it PROFITABLE to tap resources when a barrel of oil is over 75 bucks. They love it. The cartel loves it. .. EXCEPT they don't like the competition. The only reason why and how OPEC can actually hurt the US economy is to put competition OUT OF BUSINESS.
The number of people that are "hurt by free market valuations of oil" and "jobs lost" pale in comparison to the value in terms of real dollars that are left in the pockets of even the poor. This is just another misunderstood MUSLIM ATTACK.
It's not just oil, it's coal, nuclear, wind, solar, and all the other bullshiit lies the government OF the PEOPLE, FOR the PEOPLE, and BY THE PEOPLE... Is being systematically being destroyed.

At the end of your post you stated how complex it really is... Now that's the truth.
#251070 by ANGELSSHOTGUN
Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:38 am
P.S. This was an ACT of TERRORISM AGAINST ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE.

The first thing that is proposed is MORE GUN CONTROL... LEAVE EVEN MORE PEOPLE DEFENSELESS.

The question that keeps coming up is simple... Why does one man or government tell us that your life has no value and you have NO RIGHT TO PROTECT YOUR LIFE.

Buy some guns boys... :lol: :lol: :lol:
#251071 by Paleopete
Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:36 am
Been some new developments today, looks like my suspicion (and some others) was right, the FBI announced this afternoon it is being investigated as a terrorist act.

Just saw an article with a picture of the wife, first one posted that I know of. http://www.westernjournalism.com/glenn- ... if-killer/

I'm not a huge fan of Beck, he's ok sometimes right sometimes wrong, probably close on this one.

Total of 15 pipe bombs found, 3 at the shooting scene, a dozen at home. Close to 5000 round of ammo total, apparently more than one remote control. Investigators not sure if the one used at the scene failed or they were not close enough to get a signal to it.

Still questions floating around about third shooter originally reported on the news, most are fairly sure it was a mistake made in the heat of the moment. Only the two of them. First reports also said they were wearing GoPro cameras, then that was walked back, but now according to the list of items confiscated from their car, GoPro camera wrappers.

Not sure yet but they suspect the wife is the one who radicalized the husband, she passed all background checks when immigrating here to marry the guy. He bought the handguns 3 years ago or more, someone else bought the rifles, that name not released. All guns purchased legally over 3 years ago.

I thought Obama had originally said workplace violence but wasn't sure, I was only listening and not listening close enough, I saw the clip on TV where he said could be either. That was just before the FBI announced they were treating it as a terrorist attack.

Very little known about the wife so far, but apparently she did post something on facebook then deleted it pledging her allegiance to ISIS.

Investigators said they have found some info on cell phones so far, and will be trying to get what they can from hard drives, which the couple tried to destroy before the shooting. They tried to destroy cell phones, hard drives and motherboards. Some data can still probably be retrieved. Internet tracks can't be erased, they'll find those.

From house and car they took all kinds of receipts, weapons and explosives of course, a few tools out of the car, other things, I can't remember the whole list.


From what they've found so far, I'm thinking this was definitely not the primary target, otherwise they would have brought along all the bombs and probably would not have been masked. They expected to leave and do it again somewhere else. This was probably a mostly unplanned thing, someone pissed him off and they decided to go off the rails. They had a bigger target in mind for later, this one went south. No other reason to leave all the explosives and ammo behind, they had enough to supply a dozen people for a serious attack on a much bigger location.

I'm also thinking other people were involved, they didn't have or make enough money to afford all the bomb making equipment and ammo. That's the speculation coming from the so called experts...but I think it's correct. What was found was somewhere in the range of $30,000 in weapons, ammo and explosives. The husband made $50,000 a year. Can't buy that much on that salary unless he's been at it a long time, and it looks like he wasn't.

Seems like I'm missing something but can't remember...

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