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#250719 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:06 pm
jookeyman wrote:
Yod- BTW, Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours!! My wife and I both are down w/ the crud today so if we can both re-coup a little, we'll try to make it to the restaurant for dinner. She was in the hospital this time last year so at least things are looking better (to some extent).


That's something to be thankful for! I'm a bit depressed about how bad my Cowboys looked yesterday. Carolina is now my favorite to win the Super Bowl.




Cultural change in America...........I think I'll have to disagree w/ you on this point. I don't think you can blame this on rock music. It goes back much further than that. Rock music was a product of many different changes that were occurring simultaneously in culture over a period of time that started @ the end of WWII.


We are at an impasse with the chicken vs the egg. Was rock music the result of cultural change or the catalyst of cultural change? My answer is: Yes.

I don't blame the music, but the writers of the music, for making counter-culture popular without a full examination of what that counter-culture would establish. We know that the pen is mightier than the sword, and in the 60s technology & mass media took the words of those writers into every home and car. It gave the young a way to shout down the wise, and it gave liberals control of the narrative, and a way to spread propaganda without challenge.

The liberal monopoly of media didn't change in the slightest until Rush Limbaugh revived AM radio. That means we went about 30 years with a monolithic liberal view being espoused from the three major networks. We are reaping the fruit of that era now.



The first 45 I ever bought was this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoOtHjpTlzo in 1970. I thought it was unique (and still do). My parents thought I was strange. But I've always been that way.




Never heard that one before....60s gospel rap never took off, I suppose.

:lol:
#250724 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Fri Nov 27, 2015 8:30 pm
jookeyman wrote:The counterculture started during the 50s, Yod. It started w/ the Beats or McCarthyism (take your pick).


If you want to go back that far, it started with Little Richard, Elvis, and Jerry Lee Lewis.



And I believe some good things came out of the counterculture (as well as the bad). We need a social revolution TODAY to wake up the masses. Why did the government sell out this country starting many years ago? It just didn't start in the last 7 years. It started much longer than that. We've been lied to for a long, long, long time. That my friend is what started the counterculture. People became disillusioned w/ their government because of all the lies.

Bill and I were discussing the debt problem. We don't own our own country. We are owned by individuals who do not have our best interest in mind. As previously mentioned, we had a chance to take over our country but we were scammed.

If everyone would take a pair of scissors and cut up every credit card they owned and stopped living beyond their means we MAY be able to get out of this mess. But it ain't gonna' happen buddy. At least the counterculture wasn't materialistic. That was one good idea. Loving and helping each other were other good ideas.



I don't disagree with any of that...but the 60s were the decade of turmoil that established the counter-culture as mainstream. That wouldn't have been a problem if marxist ideas weren't presented as harmless. Most back then knew better, but after a couple of generations their voices were forgotten to the point that we have an actual honest Socialist running for President with a high percentage of support in the DNC

Worse, we have actual socialists running the DNC whose allegiances are closer to the UN (IMF Global Banks) than the US, and their influence has caused the GOP to lean hard left also. That's why establishment candidates in the GOP are having such a hard time, and conservatives are willing to look at anyone who opposes more of the same.

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#250728 by Vampier
Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:22 am
ALL POLITICIANS ARE LIARS.

Political Filth ... parasites ... cowards ...hypocrites ...

And most excellent representatives of what Humanity has fallen to.

The total eradication of these "moderate" lying Evil scum would make the world a better place only for a moment since it has already been doomed by them and the fools they have fooled.

Happy ThanksGiving and just wait for XMAS.
#250748 by t-Roy and The Smoking Section
Sat Nov 28, 2015 5:26 pm
jookeyman wrote:yod-

It's not a cultural phenomena. It's not even a political phenomena.
Who used the term 'one world order' more than any other leader??
Who was really running this country when this leader was in power??
There is the answer.



The CIA has been running the country since they killed Kennedy. But it has only been in the last 20 years that we were sold out completely to the IMF/UN

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