General Chat (Non-Music-Related)

Barking up the wrong tree mark. I didn't write it I just posted it. Just because it is true is no reason to loose control.

Pravda has spread and stoked the fires with "Hands Up Don't Shoot" and a good many other stories if you followed this link. See the people they destroyed in the link below.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/opin ... /70791160/

This thread is about lie made up by Pravda that has destroyed the business and the lives of innocent American Citizens, Obviously you didn't comprehend that or you would not have posted what you did. Did you see how that woman was suckered and lied about? That doesn't bother you because you don't think it will ever happen to you? OK I know, you were just showing your compassion towards that family while taking the opportunity to rip on Christians in general by using a worst case example. But Pravda isn't some small wacky church that Pravda finally found, it is a world wide propaganda network, but you probably can't see the difference can you? Other than the wacko Baptist church, where are your other examples to divert what we are talking about? Small group compared to a world wide collection of propagandists. Most Christians do not wish harm to anyone. We can love our brothers as ourselves, but that does not forbid us from pointing out injustice or hating the deeds of our brothers. Yes, mark, I know... the end justifies the means.

Welcome troll. What did you do with our other troll? Where is josh?? You don't have any irrelevant pictures to post? You're not going to be a very fun troll.

You forgot to list all the leftists that have murdered people and destroyed lives. As far as that goes, list all the Socialist / Communist / Marxist murderers, they are the idols of the American left politicians of the day. Nice diversion but it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Which is the destruction of the Pizza business and the lives of those running it. Pravda is responsible for the death threats and all the hatred, because of the lies, directed to a family that was MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS and simply trying to run a small restaurant.

I understand that trolls have a responsibility to paste irrelevant examples of things that have nothing to do with the topic at hand but no cigar this time.

So lets talk about the phony story that destroyed the lives of this family? That is the topic of this thread. Or not. Everyone pretty much already read what was relevant so I guess you can talk about anything else that crosses your mind.

YOU... MISSED... THE WHOLE... POINT... On top of that you went out of your way, with that comment about about being unstable. Does that bother me TROLL?... I know who you are.

You are just another traitor to the Constitutional Law of The United States of America.

The funny thing TROLL JASPER,... That's my dogs name. He's a good dog. You don't seem to be. When I rig it up so he can shoot with a string pull... He's getting 5 inch groups at 200 yards. Damn I'm proud of that pup! You want talk about my cat now?

Talk about twisted pretzel logic.

It is essential to condemn abortion bombings, to protect the innocent.

On the other hand it is completely OK to kill the innocent. (unborns)

Obviously this is such a conundrum, that only an answer from God... Being a woman... would be able to answer.

YA KNOW... If we don't have enough boy babies... That could slow down the whole process of the next war.

My sarcasm runs rampant. GFY.

After careful consideration... I have to agree with you totally troll. Abortion clinic attacks are completely wrong. In fact I am starting to think like the extreme liberal left. In fact we may need genetic testing before we allow any defective copulation to occur. In fact I propose the we create the government agency of HGTaC. (HOMELAND GENETIC TESTING and CONTROL).

The only problem with all of this, is it is not in place yet... Thank God your mommy didn't exercised her woman's rights. Would have the world from another saviour.

Shoot, my sarcasm against silliness continues. I like playing with trolls... Almost as good as guns and dolls.

Your big mistake troll is characterizing my guns with killing... Guns are actually to stop killing.
Abortion clinics are only about killing.

The difference is simple... When someone shoots at you... You may have the life saving chance to fire back or duck.

When you get to hell, try and let us know what happened to hitler when he faced all those guns pointed him. AHHH... Once again another argument in support of woman's rights. Just think of how much grief would have been avoided if his mother had access to a taxpayer supported clinic.

This could go on, but I'm to busy playing with my new S&W 500 on an X frame, 8&3/8 barrel with compensator firing a 500 grain round at 1600 fps in a HAND GUN... AND I CAN'T WAIT TO USE IT!

Barking up the wrong tree mark. I didn't write it I just posted it. Just because it is true is no reason to loose control.

who lost control? fear not....no one at my keyboard.

OK I know, you were just showing your compassion towards that family while taking the opportunity to rip on Christians in general by using a worst case example.

you're a smart guy, slacker. i think it's obvious enough that i wasn't "ripping on Christians in general by using a worst case example".

what i was doing was making the point that those who bomb abortion clinics and threaten staff there w physical harm do NOT represent all on the right. much the same as the idiot who tweeted "who's coming w me to burn down that restaurant" does NOT represent all on the left.

again and again you and others will point to some ijit like her and conclude and state as unrefutable fact...."well, there ya go-PROOF that the left doesn't care who it hurts".

she no more reps the left (or me) than abortion clinic bombers rep the right....or YOU.

Most Christians do not wish harm to anyone. We can love our brothers as ourselves, but that does not forbid us from pointing out injustice or hating the deeds of our brothers. Yes, mark, I know... the end justifies the means.

and i know that be true. i've never thought otherwise. i'm
just saying you shouldn't make broad generalizations about any group based on the actions of some. (ok....here comes another 100 threads about the evils lefties are perpetrating proving we're ALL evil!)

You forgot to list all the leftists that have murdered people and destroyed lives.

no, i didn't forget. it simply isn't relevant to the point i was making about generalizing.

As far as that goes, list all the Socialist / Communist / Marxist murderers, they are the idols of the American left politicians of the day. Nice diversion but it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

i'm guessing you're more than smart enough to recognize the relevance and that you're intelligent enough not to be "distracted" by the simple turn of a conversation.....but i understand that the fallback tactic of crying "distraction!" is much beloved (and overused) by your team. conversation goes where it goes. were you distracted and unable follow? (i file that transparent ploy w the tactics of implying someone responding has "lost control")

Mark, there are no right wingers that would bomb abortion clinics. THEY ARE CRAZIES. NOT right wingers that believe in preserving the law through the law. That is a very inciting, untruthful statement.

riiiight glen.....my baaaaaaad. no doubt those who bomb abortion clinics and threaten physical violence to the staff there are in fact card carrying libs, lefties, and obama supporters! yeah, i'm sure THAT'S the case!

of course they're crazy. and i know they don't represent all righties. i know they don't rep you.

but there seems to be some confusion (hypocrisy) because when some ijit tweets "who's coming w me to burn down that restaurant".....well, it's OK to point to her as representing me? and ALL on the left? that's a load of crap. plain and simple.

Interesting that I haven't seen many members extolling their love of God.

really? and what forum have you been at????

This isn't Sunday school. The members you are trying to indite are not screaming Jesus in your face. I, like many others , believe our freedom is a #1 God given gift... EVEN IF YOU HATE GOD. It does not come from ANY OTHER MAN.

and there you go trying to define what i believe. a swing and a miss! i no more "HATE GOD" than i hate the Great Spaghetti Monster in space, unicorns, or leprechauns. i can't HATE something that i don't believe exists.

Yeah there is so much negative going on... IMO as you like me to make clear...It is coming people that have no respect or tolerance of any other human that does not subject themselves to their will. They are doing something... WAY TOO MUCH.

and yet w no effort at all, you can turn a blind eye and remain eerily silent every time anyone on your team is guilty of the very same thing you rail against.

I would have to think carping about it is far better than just going out and starting a war. Talking about it is far easier than EVER having to live with taking, every thing another man, ever was or ever would be.

and why does it have to be ONE OR THE OTHER? there's nothing in between? yeah, glen...it's FAR better that someone talks about their distrust of some politician or group than going postal and killing them! ...as if THAT is the only other choice????

I'm not going to dicker with you man... We are never going to change each others opinions...

i'm w you! let's hereby declare this a "NO DICKERING ZONE" and keep all future discussion within the lines and above the belt.

The Left doesn’t care who gets hurt, so long as they get what they want.

bullshit....or shall i lump you in w the right wingers who bomb abortion clinics? or maybe i should just say based on THEIR actions, the RIGHT doesn't care who gets hurt.

When was the last time an abortion clinic was bombed? How many total times did it happen? As many Christians as there are in this country, if that was a "christian" policy there would be no murder-mills left.

The BIG difference is that Christians are the first to disavow that. The extremely overwhelming majority of Christians do not support violence for anything. We do not support bully tactics, we do not support attacking, ridiculing, hurting, or humiliating PEOPLE.

When Christians do those things, it is usually other Christians who are the first to condemn it.

but there seems to be some confusion (hypocrisy) because when some ijit tweets "who's coming w me to burn down that restaurant".....well, it's OK to point to her as representing me? and ALL on the left? that's a load of crap. plain and simple.

Violence and ridicule is the tactic of the left, not the right. The leftist media did everything it could to destroy a small business owner who had opinions contrary to theirs, and gave their lunatic fringe a green light for violence.

They are inciting the uneducated/ignorant that vote for them. And getting the exact results they desire.

Alinsky rule #12

these people are just as Christian as any other self-proclaimed Christian here on the board..all it takes, is an oath or allegiance stating, I need the blood of Christ to wash away my sins.. they have their bases covered like all of you

these people are just as Christian as any other self-proclaimed Christian here on the board..all it takes, is an oath or allegiance stating, I need the blood of Christ to wash away my sins.. they have their bases covered like all of you

Typical

You can't deal with the substance of what I just said so you ridicule. Thanks for proving my point!

Pretty lame...but typical



It also shows typical ignorance about what it takes to be a christian. It's not just saying the right words. Repentance is the first step. I won't say that Christians are incapable of sinning, but if they do, they are denying the One in whom they claim to trust. And as I continue to point out, it is usually other Christians who oppose them first and foremost.

How many gays have you seen come against the bullying of a small business owner to have an opinion?

Answer: Less than one.

But, I thought that Jesus LOVES gays!

Yes, that's right Josh or Vinny or whatever fake name you're using this month, Mr Troll

He loves all sinners enough to pay the price for our sin, which is death. Whether your sin is homosexuality or adultery or theft or lying or envy....it will eventually kill you.

He loves us enough to not leave us like we are. That's grace for a hypocrite like you, too!

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"But, I thought that Jesus LOVES gays!"

I did some detective work to assist you in your understanding, which is undeniably superficial as well as incorrect.
Jesus loves people not our perverted nature or behavior. God says the gay lifestyle is an abomination. Just follow the bouncing ball.

God insists that we turn from our ways and adapt His way for our life. Clue #1 We have to turn from the way we are going, re think and change.
Act 2:38 Peter answered them, "Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. Then you will receive the Holy Spirit as a gift. For this promise belongs to you and your children, as well as to all those who are far away, whom the Lord our God may call to himself."

Clue #2 God makes known his opinion of the gay lifestyle.
Lev 20:13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Refer to clue #4)


Clue #3 God loves the gay PERSON and NOT his lifestyle, and he gives that person the opportunity to repent or leave that lifestyle.
2 Pe 3:9 The Lord isn't slow about keeping his promises, as some people think he is. In fact, God is patient, because he wants everyone to turn from sin and no one to be lost.


Clue #4 God, even though he loves the person, warns him of the consequences of HIS LIFESTYLE.
Rev 21:8 But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death."


God calls the gay lifestyle an abomination. (An act of sexual immorality) He wants them to turn from their wickedness (Lifestyle). If they do not turn from their wicked way, he warns them that they shall be cast into the lake of fire. God loves them enough to give them the opportunity to be saved. Whether they accept that or not determines their fate. They make the choice.